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AFLW 2024 - Round 9 - Indigenous Round - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Reading this thread, I'm thinking I must have missed something about this draft.
Surely our stocks of defenders and rucks are stronger than they've ever been. Why would we waste a first round pick on another defender or a ruckman?
As far as I can see, what the Swans are most likely to need in a couple of years is a game-breaking midfielder and a quality forward. I would have preferred that they recruited a goal-kicker, but I can understand why they might prefer to gamble on a high-possession ball-winner.
I agree that White looks like he may appear to have an attitude hurdle to get over, but then that's why Adam Goodes nearly didn't get drafted. Probably worth the risk.
I think you might be underselling O'Keefe. Barham thought he was ahead of class midfelders like Hislop and Jetta.
Faulks is a genuine defender who will grow and has class.
Currie and White are projects.
I think you might be underselling O'Keefe. Barham thought he was ahead of class midfelders like Hislop and Jetta. Faulks is a genuine defender who will grow and has class. Currie and White are projects. I think they have done pretty well given that they had pick 15. Only time will tell.
What do you mean he has an attitude problem?
I guess our drafting strategy was a bit dumb, I think we had our mind set on N. Brown and once we missed out on him we went for what seemed like the best available (O'Keefe).
Problem? I'm not sure whether he has a problem, but he certainly has an extra challenge to prove that he'll fit in:
"Barham admits there's an element of speculation about Jesse White . . . .
. . . . he doesn't understand what's needed to make it . . . . If we can turn that around well then he's a chance. If we can't then he won't."
They had a chance in the best draft ever, one loaded with about ten highly rated KPPs, and we went with another mid. To go with the other dozen or so mids we now have under the age of 23.
Reading this thread, I'm thinking I must have missed something about this draft.
Surely our stocks of defenders and rucks are stronger than they've ever been. Why would we waste a first round pick on another defender or a ruckman?
As far as I can see, what the Swans are most likely to need in a couple of years is a game-breaking midfielder and a quality forward. I would have preferred that they recruited a goal-kicker, but I can understand why they might prefer to gamble on a high-possession ball-winner.
I agree that White looks like he may appear to have an attitude hurdle to get over, but then that's why Adam Goodes nearly didn't get drafted. Probably worth the risk.
I think Vogels will be a defender.
Did I miss something - outside LRT we have no defenders over 190cm and get hammered by the big forwards - Lloyd (8 in R1 2006), Brown, Neitz, Pavlich (finals anyone????) - anyone with a bit of bulk. We can't stop them now but at least plan for the enxt batch that is coming in 2-3 years time.
When there are 10+ KPP there for the taking you have to have one. Last time I looked we just delisted Josh Willoughby who on pedigree was in line with kids in this draft and his partner Tim Schmidt can't get a game with us so why do we need midfielders!
As for ruckmen - Jolly has been a warrior for us - lets hope he is as lucky the next two years because whilst I'm a big fan of Spider and Doyley, you can't ruck from the Churchill Stand!
If you are going to dress-up your opinions as fact, at least try not to make such obvious mistakes:
Ted Richards 192 cm
Sean Dempster 191 cm
LRT 194 cm
Luke Vogels 194 cm
Craig Bolton 190 cm
The Swans have not been "hammered" by any of Neitz, Pavlich or Brown in recent years.
Gehrig and Lloyd have given us problems for nearly a decade; Lloyd gave Leo Barry a bath in round 1, but he does that to all defenders (including kicking 13 against Andrew Dunkley!)
Not sure what that means, but it doesn't change the fact that the Swans have three top-class senior ruckmen, backed up by an All-Australian ruckman. No other club comes close to that depth.
Surprised you didn't try to name Tadhg on that list, he is a defender and is 190cm.
But to be honest I can't believe you think we are OK for KPP's sure when we are injury free like we have been the past two years we are, but if Leo gets an injury all we have in reserve is Vogels and up forward if Hall or Magic go down the only real back up is Grundy.
Where is the depth past Grundy and Vogels in the KP's??? Not there, or if it is we are taking it from other areas of the ground to cover for it.
This draft was a chance to build some depth in the KP for the FUTURE, not now but for the future when the likes of Hall, Magic, and Leo get ready to retire and also if we get hit by injuries. But alas we have decide to take the punt on long shots and basically ruin any chance of being as close to 100% as we could of been.
Neitz has given us problems at the SCG but we seem to even the score back in Melbourne for some reason, Pavlich SMASHED us in both meetings this past season basically keeping Freo in the Prelim for most of the first three quarters. While Brown has tended to be injured or suspened from our matches against the Lions. So while they might not of hammered us they have given us "some" problems, Pavlich in particular.
Gehrig's been a problem since Barry keep him goalless in 04 and Roos seems to think that he can do that again and again (but basically get smashed time and again). As for Lloyd best in the business for a reason, but I believe the day he kicked 13 kick had the likes of Luff and Bennett line up on him.
One who is over the age of 33, one who is injury prone like no other player on the senior list and Jolly who is nothing without a good partner in crime. End of the day we needed a 4th ruckman to develop a) in case Doyle goes down and b) for when Everitt retires in 2 years time.