Get real. We were smashed by injuries. Once we were 0-9 it would have been dead easy for us to "convincingly" snare a PP, but instead we kept trying to win with half a fit squad and managed to.
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Get real. We were smashed by injuries. Once we were 0-9 it would have been dead easy for us to "convincingly" snare a PP, but instead we kept trying to win with half a fit squad and managed to.
Carlton will be a bottom 4 side at best may sneak a bottom 5 side on percentage.....
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Carlton in 08?? well... you finally have A good player and some yet to prove themselves draft picks, but you dont have a backline and no matter what Fevola promises.... theres gonna be some off field drama because he's a drunken loser. I foresee a more competitive Carlton in 08, closer games and a couple of gutsy wins but its gonna take another year or two until we'll see any real signs of success and another 2 until I really give a sh*t.
Definately agree with that, while Carlton and Richmond were plain awful this year, Melbourne were absolutely decimated by injuries and still had the passion to pull off a few wins. Be interesting to see how they go next year as I had them penciled in top 6 last year.
Get your hand off it. Who the hell were Goldsack, Clarke and OBrian six months ago? If they can improve, so can our youngsters, most of whom you know nothing about or what they are capable of yet.
Murphy will go close to winning the Brownlow by the time he's 21. Pendelbury is a front runner who will be left in Murphy's shadow. Gibbs will surpass Pendelbury by the end of next season.
YOU and most of the others on this thread would like to think that the Carlton supporter who suggested the most negetive outcome possible will come to fruition. But deep down, know that is the worst case senario and the probability that Carlton will do a Hawks/Roos of 07 is the more likely outcome.
Enjoy your "almost" year till round 1! Your lot can then resign yourselves to the fact that you are merely a hard working, admirable but ultimately average team who will be fighting it out with half a dozen other teams for 7-8 spot, nothing more.
Goldsack was an u18 player
Clarke was being touted as the "Chris Judd" of Gaelic football
O'Brien had shown promise at the senior level.
"murphy will go close to a brownlow by the time he's 21". You know that this is not true, get your hand off it.
YOU would like to think that you will be the Hawks/Roos of 08 but it will not happen. Your midfield will win you 1 or 2 extra games but with just 1 gun forward, a few more half decent ones, no backline and no spirit how well do you honestly think you will go? What is going to happen when you come up against the forward might of a team like Hawthorn or Geelong or even a team with many "potential" matchwinners like Collingwood? Carlton can simply not match up on these teams.
Did you watch any Pies games this year? If you honestly think that Carlton can reach the same level as Collingwood did this year next year then you are the one that is dreaming.
The future is definentely, unfortunately, bright for carlton but it will not happen next year.
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Those predicting Carlton will finish top 4 are getting ahead of themselves I think.
For example, compare Essendon 07 to Carlton 08:
Ess Backline >> Carlton Backline
Ess Ruck == Carlton Ruck (both just about as crap)
Ess Forward line > Carlton Forward line
Ess Mid < Carlton Mid
Both teams are comparable as both have considerable holes in them, though i'd think Carlton's are definitely larger.
Essendon had a much stronger then expected season, but still only finished 12th. In order to achieve that they also had to win several very close games that ended up being won in the last quarter.
The difference here I think is that Carlton's side will be too inexperienced to win the close ones next year. Predicting 10th-13th.
For example, compare Essendon 07 to Carlton 08:
Ess Backline >> Carlton Backline
Ess Ruck == Carlton Ruck (both just about as crap)
Ess Forward line > Carlton Forward line
Ess Mid < Carlton Mid
Both teams are comparable as both have considerable holes in them, though i'd think Carlton's are definitely larger.
Essendon had a much stronger then expected season, but still only finished 12th. In order to achieve that they also had to win several very close games that ended up being won in the last quarter.
The difference here I think is that Carlton's side will be too inexperienced to win the close ones next year. Predicting 10th-13th.
Calton at best will play in 1 final but will get belted(no final experience) at worst 13th..
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You lost any credibility with those predictions. Nice work tool.
Perhaps Gellong will have a down year and slip back to 10th? Don't laugh, a shocking injury run and loss of confidence and the Cats are just as likely as any other team to not to make the finals. Just as likely is a team like Carlton, surprising many (including themselves) and climbing towards the top end of the ladder in 08
At the end of the day, just because some random internet ****** like yourself THINKS they know what Carlton's true potential and capability is for '08 doesn't make it so.
The only people who can make it happen is the Carlton players and coaching staff, with self belief and gaining some much needed confidence, the talent is already there. It will not take nearly as much as some of you (Carlton supporters included) on this thread think, for Carlton to play finals next year.
Delusional *******, let me just remind you that this entire forum is a place for airing opinions. Good luck to you for your opinions, although I couldn't give 2 shits about them or how Carlton goes next year. They're unlikely to be a threat to Geelong and that's all I care about in this context.
Oh by the way:
No, idiot, it's not.
Yeah I would think so.
It's not just having no finals experience either, its also no winning experience. The boys are going to have to learn how to win again, and additionally learn how to finish games off.
oogac
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Carlton will find some way to tank another year. Judd wont solve any of there major problems . . . Having no forward line or backline. I would expect them to finish in the bottom 2.
. I would expect them to finish in the bottom 2.
Mate that's not realistic,that's pessimistic in the extreme!!
I don't know where we'll finish,I expect some degree of improvement,but your post is just fuel for opposition supporters.
I know one thing we'll beat the filth and the Hawks next year,bookmark it !!
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13-16th is where the Blues will finish in 2008, adding Judd to a very bad list won't improve Carlton by more than a game or two.
Judd is without a doubt an absolute champion, but he won't bring the same result to Carlton as he hid West Coast. The main reason is because at West Coast he was surrounded by class on the feild to help him, at Carlton there is nowhere near the same class he had surrounding him.
He will still be an extremely good player,but he is going to have to work harder than ever before to have the same impact.
Everybody saying Judd won't win Carlton games you are being very narrow minded as all Carlton supporters are saying Judd will help/assist!!!
There is so much more than just Judd going on, but others just can't look past him.
He will be added to a midfield that will rotate a fit Stevens, Hadley, Simpson, Murphy, Carrazzo, Gibbs, Walker, Scotland, Jackson....very solid midfield, might be the mag 4 that Bris and WC had, but it'll trouble teams.
Our Forward will trouble most teams....you have Fev, Waite, Fisher, Betts, Houlihan will play forward in 2008 and add in a rest Judd, Murphy, Cloke it will be very hard to man up!!!
Our backs will be where will find it hard, but Setanta will play FB all year and won't be used to fill gaps (was very good at full back in early 2007...stopping some big names and kept Hall goaless), add in Thorton, Jamison, Bower, Scotland and Walker if not used in the middle and they will fit to the death...
Our rucks will be better, Cloke will be back (you might say he is nothing but he is young) add in A O'hAilpin and Hampson and they will all battle but our midfield will then need to get the ball from there.
We are a much faster team in 2008 and will trouble teams....i think most people are forgetting that middle of last year Carlton were kicking big score...given that others kicked them against us...but we are more settled now with all that has happened in the off season so far....and lets not forget the last 6 games, minus the North game...Carlton we 2 kicks off winning 5 games....whatever happened it showed they are willing to play!!
So its not just Judd...he is a part of a much bigger puzzle....
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Well there are currently 8 teams below us and we have beaten Collingwood twice which makes 9 !!!
Well, at 1/2 way we are in the 8 and I still give us a reasonable chance of being there @ the end of the year !!
GO BLUES !!
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YEAH GO YOU BLUEBOYS YOU ARE MAKING THE REST OF THE COMP EAT THERE WORDZ AND NOW THEY WILL ADMIT THAT WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST SIDES IN THE COMP
YEAH GO YOU BLUEBOYS YOU ARE MAKING THE REST OF THE COMP EAT THERE WORDZ AND NOW THEY WILL ADMIT THAT WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST SIDES IN THE COMP
I still think they'll get the wooden spoon
Although it would take Essendon, West Coast, Melbourne, Fremantle and Richmond to wake up and win more than 1 game every couple of rounds
Although it would take Essendon, West Coast, Melbourne, Fremantle and Richmond to wake up and win more than 1 game every couple of rounds
I still think they'll get the wooden spoon
Although it would take Essendon, West Coast, Melbourne, Fremantle and Richmond to wake up and win more than 1 game every couple of rounds
And us to lose all our remaining games.
Can we do it?
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I still think they'll get the wooden spoon
Although it would take Essendon, West Coast, Melbourne, Fremantle and Richmond to wake up and win more than 1 game every couple of rounds
So realisticly you're saying 11th @ worst !!
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