optimistvik
Draftee
I think freddie ,KP and bopara would definitely make it to any of the finest eleven.
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How many England players would make the Aussie XI?
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Yeah theres no way Anderson or Cook would get in the Australian team
Strauss? well he was dropped for a few games so there no way he would be considered for the almighty Australia.
I guess Ponting,Katich,Hayden,Clarke,Langer or Martyn were never dropped.
Maybe Tendulkar could get a game in the b side for Aus. I mean not now but 4-5 years ago. Maybe
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Yeah theres no way Anderson or Cook would get in the Australian team
Strauss? well he was dropped for a few games so there no way he would be considered for the almighty Australia.
I guess Ponting,Katich,Hayden,Clarke,Langer or Martyn were never dropped.
Maybe Tendulkar could get a game in the b side for Aus. I mean not now but 4-5 years ago. Maybe
If your going to base your opinions on one innings for both Anderson or Cook then your a nuff-nuff.
They both still crap players who had one good day with bat and ball each.
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Where as basing your opinion on blatant bias, ignorance and denial is obviously the go.
I reckon around 4 would, depending on how you want to play.
It is as much a matter of picking who in our team is going out as it is picking who from England would come in.
Hussey wouldn't make it. Hughes will probably get there but does not as yet have the runs on the board. Hauritz obviously wouldn't make the cut. If you want an 'allrounder' then obviously North misses out on six. The only tough choice is which three pacemen you take out of Siddle, Johnson, Clark and Anderson.
Katich, Ponting, Haddin safe as houses.
It is as much a matter of picking who in our team is going out as it is picking who from England would come in.
Hussey wouldn't make it. Hughes will probably get there but does not as yet have the runs on the board. Hauritz obviously wouldn't make the cut. If you want an 'allrounder' then obviously North misses out on six. The only tough choice is which three pacemen you take out of Siddle, Johnson, Clark and Anderson.
Katich, Ponting, Haddin safe as houses.
Are we discussing a combined XI or on individual basis? I find it odd the point hasn't been raised yet (perhaps I missed it) because it makes a huge difference. One involves having 6 players nominated as being dominate and the other involves having the same number as being significantly dominated.
If it's on an individual basis they would only have to offer more to the side than one of Hughes, North or Mike Hussey and that really isn't that huge at the moment. It seems like a few of our super biased "we still dominate the world god damn it!" posters are using Ponting as the benchmark of getting into the side. Strauss and especially KP would be in, we were desperate for Symonds' X-factor in the batting order despite him not being able to go a night without getting pissed, so I think KP might get a gig. Bopara and Collingwood would be close to the North benchmark.
I think Swann would definitely get into our XI as a spinner. He isn't great but that is hardly our standard for a spinner. Flintoff would go perfectly with Haddin and Mitch Johnson as a 6/7/8 combo adding great depth to bowling and batting.
My combo XI atm would be:
Strauss
Katich
Ponting
Clarke
KP
Haddin
Flintoff
Johnson
Swann
Siddle
Hilfenhaus
That's a 7/4 split. I think 7/4 is a more dominant split than most punters realise.
If it's on an individual basis they would only have to offer more to the side than one of Hughes, North or Mike Hussey and that really isn't that huge at the moment. It seems like a few of our super biased "we still dominate the world god damn it!" posters are using Ponting as the benchmark of getting into the side. Strauss and especially KP would be in, we were desperate for Symonds' X-factor in the batting order despite him not being able to go a night without getting pissed, so I think KP might get a gig. Bopara and Collingwood would be close to the North benchmark.
I think Swann would definitely get into our XI as a spinner. He isn't great but that is hardly our standard for a spinner. Flintoff would go perfectly with Haddin and Mitch Johnson as a 6/7/8 combo adding great depth to bowling and batting.
My combo XI atm would be:
Strauss
Katich
Ponting
Clarke
KP
Haddin
Flintoff
Johnson
Swann
Siddle
Hilfenhaus
That's a 7/4 split. I think 7/4 is a more dominant split than most punters realise.
But on present form there is no way Anderson wouldnt be in the team
One day ? Im pretty sure you still beleive England turned up and had one lucky series against Aus in 05 completely forgeting the fact England had dominated everyone for the previous two years .
England play cricket other than the ashes you know .Anderson has been bowling well for quite a while now rising up the ranks ,you know the ranks that your players are in as well .I think someone put Cooks figures up the other day against Pontings at the same age and they stacked up well not bad for a crap player .
Open two eyes before you post its more informative
Anderson isn't the player he was though is he, the bloke came into the side at a very young age, he's learnt whilst in the Test squad rather than doing his apprenticship in county cricket & he was messed about by them remodeling his action & it's only now after going to his original action that he's looked a decent bowler again & his form over the last year or so has been pretty good.
Granted he's probably not the best bowler in the world for flat pitches but then answer me this, how many quicks out there at the moment look that good when there isn't a bit of help.
I quite like Hilfenahus & you can compare him with Anderson as like for like & there's not a huge amount between them.
Siddle looks a tough bugger who gets up there with a bit of pace & he might muscle a few people out on a flat track but he'd not be as dangerous as Anderson when the ball is doing a bit.
I'm not sure who'd make it in a combined XI, now probably isn't the best time to make a judgement, after the 3rd Test might be the time to start but what I do know is that compared with what's out there in the rest of Test cricket England's bowling attack is stronger than it's batting & therefore it's ridiculous to think that all the Aussie quicks should get a go before the England ones.
1. Katich
2. Strauss
3. Ponting
4. Pieterson
5. Clarke
6. Prior
7. Flintoff
8. Johnson
9. Swann
10. Anderson
11. Hilfenhaus
1. Hilfenhaus
2. Anderson
3. Flintoff
4. Johnson
5. Swann
2. Strauss
3. Ponting
4. Pieterson
5. Clarke
6. Prior
7. Flintoff
8. Johnson
9. Swann
10. Anderson
11. Hilfenhaus
1. Hilfenhaus
2. Anderson
3. Flintoff
4. Johnson
5. Swann
Cousin Jed
Retired President of BigFooty
If you 2 people wanting Cook in the team - does that mean you think he is better than Strauss?
Because Katich has 1 spot sewn up.
Because Katich has 1 spot sewn up.
They are probably basing that on an individual rather than combined XI basis i.e Cook fitting into the Australian XI.
Swap Prior with Haddin. Yes his keeping is shit but so is Priors and his batting is much better. Also swap Anderson with Siddle. He and Hilf have been clearly the best two bowlers so far this series.
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Katich
Strauss
Ponting
Pietersen
Collingwood
Flintoff
Haddin
Johnson
Swann
Anderson
Siddle
Strauss
Ponting
Pietersen
Collingwood
Flintoff
Haddin
Johnson
Swann
Anderson
Siddle
bobmurphy2
Team Captain
My combined team at the moment would be:
1.Katich
2.Strauss
3.Ponting
4.Pieterson
5.Clarke
6.Flintoff
7.Haddin
8.Johnson
9.Swann
10.Anderson
11.Hilfenhaus
1.Katich
2.Strauss
3.Ponting
4.Pieterson
5.Clarke
6.Flintoff
7.Haddin
8.Johnson
9.Swann
10.Anderson
11.Hilfenhaus
Toadfish
Draftee
Based on the first 2 tests:-
Strauss(c)
Katich
Ponting
KP
Clarke
Haddin(wk)
Flintoff
Swann
Hauritz
Anderson
Hilfenhaus
Strauss(c)
Katich
Ponting
KP
Clarke
Haddin(wk)
Flintoff
Swann
Hauritz
Anderson
Hilfenhaus
Swann was not good in the first two tests!! he was only good in one innings!
Toadfish
Draftee
Johnson has been the most erratic bowler of all, but most would select him.
I am a spin fan, so have taken both Swann and Hauritz.
Will be fascinating to look back on this quote (and other similar ones regarding Siddle) in a few years. Siddle is rated enormously by those in the know, but the gap between his best and worst is significant at the moment.
If all of our bowling stocks were chucked into a draft to play only in the Ashes, and I was choosing, it would be:
1. Johnson
2. Flintoff
3. Clark
4. Hilfenhaus
5. Lee
6. Siddle
7. Anderson
Throw a blanket over the rest, spinners included. An attack of Johnson, Flintoff, Clark and Hilfenhaus all fit would be ridiculously dangerous.
Toadfish
Draftee
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Anyone who voted for 1 or 2 wins this game.
Any idiot who voted 5 or more are well... idiots!
England proved last night they are NOTHING without K.P or Freddie!
Pathetic with both bat and ball
Any idiot who voted 5 or more are well... idiots!
England proved last night they are NOTHING without K.P or Freddie!
Pathetic with both bat and ball
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- #50
Anderson had a seamers paradise, new ball and bowled like absolute trash!
Blokes a spud.
He had one good inning with the ball in the second test and people in this very thread said they would have him in the team ahead of just about every other Aussie bowler
