Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 3

[Chief]

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Vic - How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 4

This thread is Continued in Part 5: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/how-would-you-rate-daniel-andrews-performance-as-victorian-premier-part-5.1282789/

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[Brad Goodman]

cant see o'brien going because who stands in his place? i went through the lib caucus the other day, and noone really stood out to me as an obvious leader

Do they have any? A half-decent leader would be able to keep Tim Smith in line but he's obviously failing at that.

 

[Visions]

To make the average of 5 by the 19th is gone , we would need to average around 4.5 per day from here on in, will even be a stretch to make it by 26th. The 5 target was considered a huge stretch by all but Dan, Brett and their super computer and it looks like that is the case.

How do you get that number of 4.5? From what I gather we already have 34 cases from 3 days with only another 36 allowed in the next 11, average being 3.27.

 

[Bazzar]

6.689 million Victorians, a massive 227 covid cases are currently active, 30 people are in hospital, this includes 3 patients in intensive care.

Doing a great job Keep up the lockdowns Dan, I'd say into November at least.

 

[Jascave]

My guess is that if Daniel Andrews doesn’t ease social restrictions as expected by the 19th, expect to see leadership challenge chatter go up several notches. It could be anyone out of Hennessy, Garrett or Jennings v Andrews, and I reckon it could happen sometime before Christmas. I think Andrews is starting to lose some confidence and numbers amongst Labor MPs, especially his backbenchers.


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[Deliverance]

if we accept status quo, thats fine. it means Victoria will remain locked off from the rest of the country until either they have a mass outbreak or a vaccine is available. and this could remain in place for another year.

that means you will see businesses basically move away from victoria, the ausopen/F1/AFL/etc abandon the state for at least 2021, and it will create a massive cultural change in this country - we will be effectively non-Australians

No chance F1 or Aus open go interstate.

 

[The Punter]

There will be no leadership challenges in 2020.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

No chance F1 or Aus open go interstate.

If they can't host interstate or international spectators, they are not staying here

 

[Deliverance]

If they can't host interstate or international spectators, they are not staying here

Losing it altogether could happen, not interstate though. French and US opens went OK though.

 

[Magnum27]

How do you get that number of 4.5? From what I gather we already have 34 cases from 3 days with only another 36 allowed in the next 11, average being 3.27.

I was using the 14 day available starting from the 5th to 19th, to get to 5, we have had 26 in total for 5th and 6th.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Losing it altogether could happen, not interstate though. French and US opens went OK though.

qld and wa have been working for months to poach these (plus a rack of other melbourne based events)

 

[bonddm]

 

[andrewmillman]

From Brett - average aussie household size of 2.5. Average household size of vics 20,000 cases is between 6-10.

Crazy, breeding like rabbits?

 

[Lethality]

Victoria received 'assurances' forced labour is not being used for state's new trains

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews says he's been assured that a company identified as a beneficiary of China's Uyghur forced labour programs is not drawing on those programs for its work on a $2 billion Victorian train-building contract.

www.abc.net.au

 

[tandino]

Victoria received 'assurances' forced labour is not being used for state's new trains

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews says he's been assured that a company identified as a beneficiary of China's Uyghur forced labour programs is not drawing on those programs for its work on a $2 billion Victorian train-building contract.

www.abc.net.au

What else are they going to say?

 

[Bazzar]

My guess is that if Daniel Andrews doesn’t ease social restrictions as expected by the 19th, expect to see leadership challenge chatter go up several notches. It could be anyone out of Hennessy, Garrett or Jennings v Andrews, and I reckon it could happen sometime before Christmas. I think Andrews is starting to lose some confidence and numbers amongst Labor MPs, especially his backbenchers.


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Im tipping Hennessey, as she already mentioned her workplace safety act in regards to covid back in mid Sept and appeared to be distancing herself from the hotel security crisis.

 

[Visions]

I was using the 14 day available starting from the 5th to 19th, to get to 5, we have had 26 in total for 5th and 6th.

Ah okay. I was under the impression that any announcements to lift restrictions on the 19th would come on Sunday the 18th. And that would be based on the 14 day average of numbers from the 4th - 17th (to give them that one day to work out what they would announce on the 18th).

 

[Bazzar]

Victoria received 'assurances' forced labour is not being used for state's new trains

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews says he's been assured that a company identified as a beneficiary of China's Uyghur forced labour programs is not drawing on those programs for its work on a $2 billion Victorian train-building contract.

www.abc.net.au

So Dan's denying it?

Thats settled that then.

But he's ok with Uyghurs slave labor as long as it's not used in his contract.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

What else are they going to say?

its actually easier than that

any contractor should be knowing exactly what factories are going to be used in their supply agreement. and multiple visual inspections of the sites would be part of this.

firstly, you need to make sure the supplier actually has the capability of delivering what they are saying

secondly, the use of shadow factories in china is not uncommon, so you would be needing to make sure none of that shit is going on

if they dont know where their shit is being made, this manufacturer has bigger issues

 

[Funk]

Makes me laugh that posters think NSW has been “lucky” and VIC has been “unlucky“.

Substitute Governments that are “competent” and “ridiculously incompetent“ and there’s your true reasons.

 

[Paul Kersey]

Just remember why we are in this predicament.

Daniel Andrews. He certainly does "get things done".

 

[Funk]

its actually easier than that

any contractor should be knowing exactly what factories are going to be used in their supply agreement. and multiple visual inspections of the sites would be part of this.

firstly, you need to make sure the supplier actually has the capability of delivering what they are saying

secondly, the use of shadow factories in china is not uncommon, so you would be needing to make sure none of that sh*t is going on

if they dont know where their sh*t is being made, this manufacturer has bigger issues

So just like a State government “should know” that staff in hotel quarantine are not also working in Aged Care??????

How hard could it be to manage that given what has already occurred?

 

[Ned_Flanders]

So just like a State government “should know” that staff in hotel quarantine are not also working in Aged Care??????

How hard could it be to manage that given what has already occurred?

you have obviously never been involved in govt procurement for major projects. there is a reason these processes take years

 

[Magnum27]

Ah okay. I was under the impression that any announcements to lift restrictions on the 19th would come on Sunday the 18th. And that would be based on the 14 day average of numbers from the 4th - 17th (to give them that one day to work out what they would announce on the 18th).

Yours could be correct as well, either way we won't get to 5 by those dates.

 

[hawkman]

Yours could be correct as well, either way we won't get to 5 by those dates.

You would think there are going to be some more days in the 10's to come as well

 

[Sinjin Smith]

FFS Victorian Liberals take a good long look at yourselves!

Liberal MP denies his 'catch and kill' cards incite violence

Victorian Liberal Tim Smith uses relentless social media campaigns to attack Premier Daniel Andrews and Labor. But has he gone too far this time?

www.theage.com.au

That is atrocious, just utterly stupid and shameful.

The vic libs are ****ed.