Hurley faces the music

[chardonnay]

Today is the day ....

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Can't see him getting anything more than a slap on the wrist and a fine.

Nothing story.

 

[Driveby Punching]

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Today is the day ....

I stand to be corrected, but I believe it's a diversion hearing today. If he is declined there, presumably he'd go to trial, although I'm not sure if the mechanism is there to just plead guilty if that's what he'll do.

If it goes to trial I'd imagine it would be adjourned, possibly until after the season, although I don't know.

I reckon everyone would like to get the consequences known and dealt with

 

[chardonnay]

Melbourne Magistrates' Court - Criminal

Case Number:Y03682827Date:11/06/2010Time:09:00Prosecuting Agency:VICTORIA POLICE UNI-COLLINGWOOD Informant:S.CONS SPILLANE, R Accused:HURLEY, MICHAEL Hearing Type:Diversion Plea:NO PLEA TAKEN Location:Melbourne Magistrates' Court - Criminal Court Room No.:0

 

[theyellowsash]

didnt they already reject the diversion?

either way wont matter. he probably didnt get some chocolate when he was a kid so the hippies will let him off even though he deserves a few months in the slammer.

more importantly what has happened to his form? ive barely noticed him this year after all the rising star shoe-in talk.

 

[Mullarkey]

2 week suspension yeah?

 

[Lance Uppercut]

didnt they already reject the diversion?

either way wont matter. he probably didnt get some chocolate when he was a kid so the hippies will let him off even though he deserves a few months in the slammer.

more importantly what has happened to his form? ive barely noticed him this year after all the rising star shoe-in talk.

Magistrate canned him, but left it open as the victim was OS.

His form has been ok, not great. Looks like he has something on his mind.

2 week suspension yeah?

hehe

 

[Paddywhackers]

He assulted an Indian Taxi driver. If I was a judge I would be throwing the book at him. Probably put him three motns behind bars. He would miss the Collingwood v Essendon game. I'd also ban him from the AFL for a year.

I'd also make sure he was cut from any AFL list, so that he would have to re-enter the AFL draft in 2012.

Assaults on Taxi drivers have had racist connotations. But much worse than that, is our reputation in India, and the consequences that Hurley's actions jeopardizes our Indians attaining an education in Australia, which is great money making enterprize for Oz.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

He assulted an Indian Taxi driver. If I was a judge I would be throwing the book at him. Probably put him three motns behind bars. He would miss the Collingwood v Essendon game. I'd also ban him from the AFL for a year.

I'd also make sure he was cut from any AFL list, so that he would have to re-enter the AFL draft in 2012.

Assaults on Taxi drivers have had racist connotations. But much worse than that, is our reputation in India, and the consequences that Hurley's actions jeopardizes our Indians attaining an education in Australia, which is great money making enterprize for Oz.

lol nice rant Derryn Hinch. Shame, shame, shame.

What are your thoughts on Dane Swan? Giving guys brain damage & refusing to pay reparations ok if the victim is Aussie? Didn't even get one games suspension IIRC

 

[TeamHurley]

He assulted an Indian Taxi driver. If I was a judge I would be throwing the book at him. Probably put him three motns behind bars. He would miss the Collingwood v Essendon game. I'd also ban him from the AFL for a year.

I'd also make sure he was cut from any AFL list, so that he would have to re-enter the AFL draft in 2012.

Assaults on Taxi drivers have had racist connotations. But much worse than that, is our reputation in India, and the consequences that Hurley's actions jeopardizes our Indians attaining an education in Australia, which is great money making enterprize for Oz.

I think you are being very leniant. In fact I think that Hurley is responsible for the %17 drop in OS students coming to Australia causing us to lose 2 billion dollars.

 

[87Hawk]

He assulted an Indian Taxi driver. If I was a judge I would be throwing the book at him. Probably put him three motns behind bars. He would miss the Collingwood v Essendon game. I'd also ban him from the AFL for a year.

I'd also make sure he was cut from any AFL list, so that he would have to re-enter the AFL draft in 2012.

Assaults on Taxi drivers have had racist connotations. But much worse than that, is our reputation in India, and the consequences that Hurley's actions jeopardizes our Indians attaining an education in Australia, which is great money making enterprize for Oz.

Thank Christ your not a judge then. So it would be ok if it was an Australian taxi driver or Chinese then. Hurley should pay the penalty based on his actions not on the race of the alleged victim.

 

[AngelEyes]

Hurley was involved in an assault where he acted in a racially derogatory way towards a member of the community where racial tensions are rife with.

Hurley deserves a serious punishment and not a slap on the wrist. Hurley may not have caused a drop like the $2b you said. However, how do you think it will look in the India and the world if an Australian professional sportsman gets off scot free for assaulting and racially abusing an Indian. That would be huge news and yes it would have some effect.

Hurley deserves the book thrown at him and his actions were unacceptable at a time when tensions are already high.

 

[Bomberman86]

He assulted an Indian Taxi driver. If I was a judge I would be throwing the book at him. Probably put him three motns behind bars. He would miss the Collingwood v Essendon game. I'd also ban him from the AFL for a year.

I'd also make sure he was cut from any AFL list, so that he would have to re-enter the AFL draft in 2012.

Assaults on Taxi drivers have had racist connotations. But much worse than that, is our reputation in India, and the consequences that Hurley's actions jeopardizes our Indians attaining an education in Australia, which is great money making enterprize for Oz.

So your method would be to crush a barely 20 year old guy without a prior record because of the Australian and Indian media sensation with a side serve of fear? Bravo.. I can see why you arent in the legal system.

Before you try to attack my character I am of half South African Half Australian decent (yes.. black and white), but I seriously doubt Hurley punched the bloke because he was Indian. In fact, I have serious doubts over whether many of the attacks that happen are racially motivated. Sure, some definately will be (the unfortunate occupational hazard of our lovely Western Society) but many of the situations reported on would simply have all the "ticked boxs" to make a good media story. Indian bashing is the topic of the year for the media, in 24 months it will be something entirely different. Same rules apply for most media stories. In the mid 90s it was the German Sheppard which was the demonized dog, in the 2000s it is the PitBull, and im sure in another 10 years itll be the Japanese Toza or something ridiculous like that.

Long story short, if your entire reasoning is based on a) racism or b) overseas perception, when it comes to the Hurley outcome, then just send Mr Murdoch to prison, not Michael Hurley

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Hurley was involved in an assault where he acted in a racially derogatory way towards a member of the community where racial tensions are rife with.

Hurley deserves a serious punishment and not a slap on the wrist. Hurley may not have caused a drop like the $2b you said. However, how do you think it will look in the India and the world if an Australian professional sportsman gets off scot free for assaulting and racially abusing an Indian. That would be huge news and yes it would have some effect.

Hurley deserves the book thrown at him and his actions were unacceptable at a time when tensions are already high.

you should look up & understand the doctrine of the separation of powers before you start the hand-wringing

 

[Bomberman86]

Hurley was involved in an assault where he acted in a racially derogatory way towards a member of the community where racial tensions are rife with.

Hurley deserves a serious punishment and not a slap on the wrist. Hurley may not have caused a drop like the $2b you said. However, how do you think it will look in the India and the world if an Australian professional sportsman gets off scot free for assaulting and racially abusing an Indian. That would be huge news and yes it would have some effect.

Hurley deserves the book thrown at him and his actions were unacceptable at a time when tensions are already high.

Oh really.. That's the first i've heard of it. So you're basically saying that anybody who was to punch me, should be considered a racist because of my complexion? You're a joke. Get an education so you can at least rebut the fact im stating you're an idiot. No merit to the argument, next please.

 

[Paddywhackers]

hahahahaha

We don't live in a fair society. The reality is, the Australian government didn't do much about the Indian bashings until it became entrenched in the media and bad publicity for our education system

Whether it's fair or not, Hurley belted the wrong bloke. Indian's have made a big song and dance about these bashings, and it cost Australian's money. If I was a judge, yes, Hurley would be thrown the book.

Re Dane Swan, that was a long time ago, I think he broke the taxi-drivers jaw, however this was in a different era. At the start of the decade.

Just like criminality and the lead guys back in the days of Les Kane were the toughest men in the pub, and not money makers, Dane Swan was certainly cimitted an asault, but without racist connotations, therefore, the crime was committed in a different context.

In this instance, Hurley crime has racist connotations, and also $$$$ for Australia.

 

[Paddywhackers]

Bravo.. I can see why you arent in the legal system.

but I seriously doubt Hurley punched the bloke because he was Indian. In fact, I have serious doubts over whether many of the attacks that happen are racially motivated. Sure, some definately will be (the unfortunate occupational hazard of our lovely Western Society) but many of the situations reported on would simply have all the "ticked boxs" to make a good media story. Indian bashing is the topic of the year for the media, in 24 months it will be something entirely different. Same rules apply for most media stories. In the mid 90s it was the German Sheppard which was the demonized dog, in the 2000s it is the PitBull, and im sure in another 10 years itll be the Japanese Toza or something ridiculous like that.

Long story short, if your entire reasoning is based on a) racism or b) overseas perception, when it comes to the Hurley outcome, then just send Mr Murdoch to prison, not Michael Hurley

^^^^

This post smells of I am not racist, I am this and that but...

 

[spiraldiver]

Hurley was involved in an assault where he acted in a racially derogatory way towards a member of the community where racial tensions are rife with.

Hurley deserves a serious punishment and not a slap on the wrist. Hurley may not have caused a drop like the $2b you said. However, how do you think it will look in the India and the world if an Australian professional sportsman gets off scot free for assaulting and racially abusing an Indian. That would be huge news and yes it would have some effect.

Hurley deserves the book thrown at him and his actions were unacceptable at a time when tensions are already high.

I agree with your sentiments, but I have yet to read anywhere that Hurley "acted in a racially derogatory way". Could you please provide a link, a source, anything, which backs up this statement?

 

[theyellowsash]

assuming that it was racism based because it was a white guy vs an indian is racist in itself. as is treating a crime worse because of 'racism', as it is treating different races differently. black, white, brown, yellow or ranga, everyone is the same under the law and he should be put in jail on the merits of assault alone.

 

[theyellowsash]

news just in on SEN, the magistrate has stood down because hurley alleged bias because the indian wasnt in court, will be replaced.

 

[tubbis]

Hurley was involved in an assault where he acted in a racially derogatory way towards a member of the community where racial tensions are rife with.

Hurley deserves a serious punishment and not a slap on the wrist. Hurley may not have caused a drop like the $2b you said. However, how do you think it will look in the India and the world if an Australian professional sportsman gets off scot free for assaulting and racially abusing an Indian. That would be huge news and yes it would have some effect.

Hurley deserves the book thrown at him and his actions were unacceptable at a time when tensions are already high.

hahahahaha

We don't live in a fair society. The reality is, the Australian government didn't do much about the Indian bashings until it became entrenched in the media and bad publicity for our education system

Whether it's fair or not, Hurley belted the wrong bloke. Indian's have made a big song and dance about these bashings, and it cost Australian's money. If I was a judge, yes, Hurley would be thrown the book.

Just like criminality and the lead guys back in the days of Les Kane were the toughest men in the pub, and not money makers, Dane Swan was certainly cimitted an asault, but without racist connotations, therefore, the crime was committed in a different context.

In this instance, Hurley crime has racist connotations, and also $$$$ for Australia.

Obviously never been anywhere near Law School.
As much as you'd love to have his sentence increased based on the the detrimental effect it has on Indian-Australian relations (which you can't even definitively say was caused by Michael Hurley), our Constitution and legal system prevent the executive/legislative agendas from affecting the judgments of our judiciary. Hurley will be under trial for assaulting Mr. John Citizen; race is of no matter to the courts in this case.

 

[Paddywhackers]

I can't keep going with this...

I am pulling the piss. Relax guys. Hurley's crime will warrant a slap on the wrist.

In reality he is a 20 year old kid that did a stupid thing. He needs to know his actions could have been far worse. (As would anyone else)

People are right in slagging of Rupert Murdoch to blame for the publicity. Even worse in this instance has been the Indian media.

FWIW; I don't give two shits about these of field dramas. It has nothing to do with me, and this idea of club-culture that that knob JD used to crap on about is almost a farce, unless in extreme cases of West Coasts drug culture, it is the luck of the draw, and all clubs will recruit a bad egg from time ti time,
or even a good egg, that makes silly mistakes.

This is really no-ones business on bigfooty.

 

[The King!]

good luck to the kid, be good for him to put it behind him

 

[fishguts]

Bias supposedly because the Magistrate is refusing to listen to the Taxi drivers opinion (he is happy for a diversion) however, the Magistrate was pursuing his own path.