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Had some close ones in the last 15 years. 2002, 2005, 2006, 2009 and 2010.
If we can't have State of Origin...
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Had some close ones in the last 15 years. 2002, 2005, 2006, 2009 and 2010.
Suspensions should be halved in the GF not doubled. (thanks rusty gates Lynch)
Even here in the neutral NT it's a big event to follow simply because they are the best rugby league games in the world. intense rivalry, best players. People that don't care about the NRL tune in and take sides. It'll never be outdated as long as the rivalry, quality and intensity remain. Best football spectacle in Oz, if not the world.
Be a terrible idea if the AFL makes some half-hearted Allstars game in response.
Rugby League isn't in the top 5 football sports in the world. Not even close to being the best football spectacle in the world.
SOO is outdated in the southern states now because people grew up and realised what a pointless event it was.
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The term LOL is thrown around far too often these days.
Thoroughly deserved response to this suggestion though.
Thoroughly deserved response to this suggestion though.
In NRL Origin is bigger than the premiership, it's a different kettle of fish altogether. They live for Origin up north, we don't. State of Origin is all NRL has got. Let them have it. It's dead in the AFL.
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Shame no one cares about what the fans want...
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Fans don't want it either. Or at least don't care. Sure, some are passionate for it, but some are just as passionate against it. And the rest just don't care.
Even in NRL, there is a debate about should the SOO move to stand alone weekends because the clubs that have highest representation tend to lose games they should win during this period. (Witness last week's upset losses for both the Cowboys and Broncos)
The big 3 USA sports have all star games that are treated as a joke and in absolutely no way resemble a real game in either of their sports. Even ice hockey adopted a concept game format this year.
Indeed most sports battle to have more than 1 level of their game taken seriously on a regular basis. It's either club or state/provincial or internationals. (Cricket, internationals rule, US sports, clubs rule, soccer, clubs rule even though the FIFA World Cup is biggest event in sport, rugby union, internationals rule, but European clubs are hurting the lesser nations by controlling the availability of players to when it suits them.) Rugby league, in Australia, is probably the only sport where 2 levels coexist. However, in rugby league, the international game is basically dead, compared to the 60's and 70's when playing for Australia was more important than state games.
In all the above, it comes down to who is paying the players. If you have a player and invest a lot of money in him, you are reluctant for that player to do anything that is not to your team's benefit. It's not just risk of injury, it's also players that aren't selected get that extra rest whereas the selected players don't.
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They only average between 15-30 mins of Ice time per game and an average shift on the ice is about a minute
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Yet the NRL is a far more even competition than the AFL and more sides have a chance of winning it every year
As a saints supporter and myself as a Dees, we dont see our team win the GF and I would love to see Nathan Jones represent VIC and I love to have something else to look forward too
NSW would beat VIC some time in the future in an AFL SOO game and imagine the media and publicity it would generate
QSLD and NSW would have some interest in it from the states, and anyone playing VIC would love it of course
Theres alot of smaller victorian clubs who have been and will be shafted for northern and interstate interests and Id love something else to celebrate at sometime
Why did you bother putting a 'No it's terrible' option in the poll? There are myriad reasons why people don't like the idea of exhibition games, and this is probably the best. Go ask Roos what he said to Petracca after he hurt his knee playing basketball.
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A "bloody farce" that the AFL are extremely envious about.
Fans' interest begins to wane if the best players aren't playing. And while I love SOO as a concept, I can completely understand why a player wouldn't want to 'represent' the Allies.
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On every conceivable level, no, no, no!
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The main advantage the NRL have is that 99% of their players are from either NSW or QLD.
AFL is more of a mixed bag with all states represented.
The hardest decision would be deciding who plays who.
A Allies vs VIC game would be stupid so rule that out now.
AFL is more of a mixed bag with all states represented.
The hardest decision would be deciding who plays who.
A Allies vs VIC game would be stupid so rule that out now.
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Am I the only one who has gone cold on state of origin ? The idea used to excite me, but we have players from different states (and even different countries ) now so picking which states participate would be difficult (and could even alienate the other states ). An "Allies" team is an even worse idea . Would any team even be prepared to risk their players getting injured during the season ?
It would be a little more feasible at the end of the season (prior to international rules )
It would be a little more feasible at the end of the season (prior to international rules )
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I don't think so.
They may be jealous of the revenue to a degree, but I think if the AFL really wanted it, they would've implemented it by now.
Australian Football is bigger in this country without SoO. I agree we don't need it at all. Though I do like to put together SoO teams and schedules for academic reasons, but it's never going to happen.
2011 was great contest up until the last quarter
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Yet the AFL has bigger broadcasting rights, better ratings, and very comfortably larger crowds. Making the club competition the indisputable top level was the right decision.
As someone above said, if the AFL really wanted to bring back State of Origin, they would. But they value the week-to-week brand and national expansion more.
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Yeah i missed the final quarter to go to my wifes brothers bux night.
One thing I have always thought if we cant have State of Origin that when it comes time to selecting the All Australian side at the end of the season instead of picking the squad and then the team the states should select their representative side and then the All Australian selectors should pick the side from that, just like they did in the old days
It is the elite competition aspect I was getting at - seeing the 'top shelf' of now 700+ AFL listed players as Origin was pre 1987 - the AFL competition is shallow in terms of talent. Plodders are on show on Grand Final Day most years.
No I don't see Aussie Rules revisiting any time soon.
& the TV numbers that Origin pull?
http://www.mediaweek.com.au/tv-state-origin-pulls-highest-ever-ratings/
.... Nine last night with the network posting the year’s highest share to-date of 38.0% while their combined channel share hit 45.0% with the telecast of what is the highest-rating Rugby League State of Origin game ever.
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Just have a SoO with the players drawn from the 2nd tier VFL/WAFL/SANFL/TFL etc. and other amateur leagues. Give them the big stage on the weekend during the byes. Would love to see that Tasmanian bloke who kicked a ton in 9 games tear it up on the MCG.
These players would actually give a toss about the game and gives them a chance to showcase their skills (match payments and increasing their profile for a potential draft selection). Representative games aren't going to happen in the AFL so no point bothering with that. Give it to the players who want it.
Each player selected gets match payments and further payments sent to their representative state level team.
Proceeds go towards grass roots footy.
Players are happy, Teams are happy, Spectators get something to watch that week and are happy. AFL get to pocket some more TV $$$ and gate receipts.
These players would actually give a toss about the game and gives them a chance to showcase their skills (match payments and increasing their profile for a potential draft selection). Representative games aren't going to happen in the AFL so no point bothering with that. Give it to the players who want it.
Each player selected gets match payments and further payments sent to their representative state level team.
Proceeds go towards grass roots footy.
Players are happy, Teams are happy, Spectators get something to watch that week and are happy. AFL get to pocket some more TV $$$ and gate receipts.
