Injury Injuries 2016

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House_of_Dahl said:
If we manage to get Libba, Macrae, Adams and Campbell back for finals we could really step another level. Add to that Stringer finding some form/getting over his injury and look out!
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We will need Libba, Macrae and in-form Stringer to do any good in the finals I'm afraid. I love Bevo's faith in the whole squad but unfortunately we need the cream as well.
 
dogzrule said:
What happens with the VFL finals series, do they get a week 1 bye as well ?

It would be handy if Footscray were playing the bye week just in case we need to put in game time to McRae, Libba, Adams and Campbell
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VFL finals start during the AFL bye week (September 3-4). Unfortunately the rule is that the club must have both the senior (AFL) team also 'engaged on the same weekend', meaning those guys won't qualify.

This is also the case for top 4 teams who win in week 1, they can't load up their VFL team with guys who haven't met the 6 game minimum (Cyril played in the Footscray-Box Hill GF in 2014 because Hawthorn had a prelim on that weekend).
 

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TempleKelvington said:
I think one person mentioned something about Adams and then everyone took is a gospel. Macrae will be back for finals with at least a game under his belt, Campbell should play next week. If Adams is on track he will play this week. Libber is the only one I have no idea about. I suggest Morris will not be risked. But even if he they take concervative approach he will be right for finals and I have no concerns with him missing some footy and coming in and doing his job. Total pro.
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I'm pretty sure that the poster talking about Adams' set back was reporting what (Beveridge?) said during a radio interview.
 
I just wish the club would be transparent with us about injuries, especially Adams & Campbell. If they are out, they are out so just say so.

Campbell had a minor knee problem when apparently it was really his Achilles, but I've seen on here it's hot spots in his foot/feet. Adams I genuinely don't know what injury he had or what he has know.
 
Dav1d said:
Adams was most definitely playing sore that night, a lot of our players have been playing sore. I forget, has he even played a match since then?
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He did his current injury in the last five minutes of the match (Bev's press conference) so it's not an excuse. The guy was uncompetitive against Buddy that day/night.
 
Northern Dogs said:
Also, for anyone in the know, how are both Libba and Macrae tracking at present?
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Macrae is already back running so I'd say he is just about a certainity to be ready week 1 of finals. Not sure about Libba, think he may still be on crutches. Looks unlikely at this point.
 
immortalmike said:
Hard to learn anything sitting on your arse with your foot in the air.
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Surprised at some of the views here. Buddy has handed Morris his arse for years and Adams is our best young kpd prospect in his first year. Not crazy to suggest that if he were back this week and therefore given time to regain match fitness he'd have been our option. Kids shown a stack this year. And you just can't put pedestrian athletes on the best key forward of the past 10 years
 
Zgope1 said:
Surprised at some of the views here. Buddy has handed Morris his arse for years and Adams is our best young kpd prospect in his first year. Not crazy to suggest that if he were back this week and therefore given time to regain match fitness he'd have been our option. Kids shown a stack this year. And you just can't put pedestrian athletes on the best key forward of the past 10 years
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When apart from in 2008 has he handed Morris his arse? Don't disrespect a champion.
Adams definitely showed plenty before he got hurt the first time, much, much less so since.
I have no faith that Adams would be our best option on Franklin, especially considering his form was comparable to Roberts since hurting his hand.
 
immortalmike said:
When apart from in 2008 has he handed Morris his arse? Don't disrespect a champion.
Adams definitely showed plenty before he got hurt the first time, much, much less so since.
I have no faith that Adams would be our best option on Franklin, especially considering his form was comparable to Roberts since hurting his hand.
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whenever they've played on each other. Lake could often handle Buddy but Moz? uh uh. nothing disrespectful about it either, baffled to see where the disrespect comes from. It's just what's happened.

2013 late season at etihad the most recent example, but 2011 late season at the G another example of Buddy carving up Moz. In most other games we've sent others to him though.

Regardless, it's a hypothetical world so it'll no doubt end in us agreeing to disagree. Would we be in agreement that going forward Adams will be our best option for him? (If we don't get Hurley of course)
 
Zgope1 said:
whenever they've played on each other. Lake could often handle Buddy but Moz? uh uh. nothing disrespectful about it either, baffled to see where the disrespect comes from. It's just what's happened.

2013 late season at etihad the most recent example, but 2011 late season at the G another example of Buddy carving up Moz. In most other games we've sent others to him though.

Regardless, it's a hypothetical world so it'll no doubt end in us agreeing to disagree. Would we be in agreement that going forward Adams will be our best option for him? (If we don't get Hurley of course)
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The disrespect comes from the phrase "handing him his arse", he may have been beaten but at worst Dale's been able to curb him and was never as uncompetitive as Adams was earlier this year.

And no we wouldn't be in agreement. Adams doesn't suit athletic forwards and still has plenty to prove for mine. He had a good start to the year but has been decidedly average since, whether that is because of injury or not is up for debate. But giving him the benefit of the doubt I'll wait until after preseason and most of next year to decide whether he's a Brett Goodes (excellent start, average rest) or a Matthew Boyd (bonefide late starting champion).
 
immortalmike said:
The disrespect comes from the phrase "handing him his arse", he may have been beaten but at worst Dale's been able to curb him and was never as uncompetitive as Adams was earlier this year.

And no we wouldn't be in agreement. Adams doesn't suit athletic forwards and still has plenty to prove for mine. He had a good start to the year but has been decidedly average since, whether that is because of injury or not is up for debate. But giving him the benefit of the doubt I'll wait until after preseason and most of next year to decide whether he's a Brett Goodes (excellent start, average rest) or a Matthew Boyd (bonefide late starting champion).
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Adams definitely suits athletic forwards. He's a freak athletic, quick, has a tank, big leap, can go with most (only Rance can go with Buddy).

and on the phrase.. look, i distinctly remember several times Buddy has absolutely whooped him to say it lightly. It's a stinky match up, and there's no shame in that. Doesn't mean he doesn't try hard. I'd say Adams was brilliant pre injury and ok with very encouraging signs afterward. A bad game first up against one of the best there'll ever be against Buddy doesn't change that for me.

But we see things differently and that's cool too
 

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Zgope1 said:
Adams definitely suits athletic forwards. He's a freak athletic, quick, has a tank, big leap, can go with most (only Rance can go with Buddy).

and on the phrase.. look, i distinctly remember several times Buddy has absolutely whooped him to say it lightly. It's a stinky match up, and there's no shame in that. Doesn't mean he doesn't try hard. I'd say Adams was brilliant pre injury and ok with very encouraging signs afterward. A bad game first up against one of the best there'll ever be against Buddy doesn't change that for me.

But we see things differently and that's cool too
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For someone who is quick and has a tank, he sure gets beaten on the lead a fair bit. We'll have to see where he ends up but to be honest my hopes aren't high.
The truth is we don't have a player for athletic forwards, apart from Morris. Hopefully Zaine gets there because he's my last true hope for an AA key defender (other than Dale) on our list.
 
immortalmike said:
For someone who is quick and has a tank, he sure gets beaten on the lead a fair bit. We'll have to see where he ends up but to be honest my hopes aren't high.
The truth is we don't have a player for athletic forwards, apart from Morris. Hopefully Zaine gets there because he's my last true hope for an AA key defender (other than Dale) on our list.
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i only really remember Buddy getting him on the lead and it had a lot more to do with smarts and catching him napping (which is normal for a first year guy)
 
immortalmike said:
Adams definitely showed plenty before he got hurt the first time, much, much less so since.
I have no faith that Adams would be our best option on Franklin, especially considering his form was comparable to Roberts since hurting his hand.
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Have to agree
His given us absolutely nothing for 6 weeks!
Stringer at least turns up - this guy his a complete hoax! A ghost.
 
immortalmike said:
For someone who is quick and has a tank, he sure gets beaten on the lead a fair bit. We'll have to see where he ends up but to be honest my hopes aren't high.
The truth is we don't have a player for athletic forwards, apart from Morris. Hopefully Zaine gets there because he's my last true hope for an AA key defender (other than Dale) on our list.
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I still reckon Adams will be best utilised as a 3rd tall defender in a perfect system. He's quick with ball in hand and a surprisingly accurate long kick. and he's probably a teensy bit slow and a cm or two short to be a genuine key defender.
Even though 1st defender is Roberts and the like's most natural position, and not really Adams' natural position, we have gone into games this season with Adams and Morris being key defender 1 & 2.
If we recruit Hurley and Roberts comes on (which if he plays like he did last week vs North, I reckon he will) I can easily see Adams being that 3rd tall defender - a bit like how Henderson or Kolodjnashnij are used alongside Lonergan and Taylor, or how Rampe is used now alongside Aliir and Grundy etc.
 
threenewpadlocks said:
I still reckon Adams will be best utilised as a 3rd tall defender in a perfect system. He's quick with ball in hand and a surprisingly accurate long kick. and he's probably a teensy bit slow and a cm or two short to be a genuine key defender.
Even though 1st defender is Roberts and the like's most natural position, and not really Adams' natural position, we have gone into games this season with Adams and Morris being key defender 1 & 2.
If we recruit Hurley and Roberts comes on (which if he plays like he did last week vs North, I reckon he will) I can easily see Adams being that 3rd tall defender - a bit like how Henderson or Kolodjnashnij are used alongside Lonergan and Taylor, or how Rampe is used now alongside Aliir and Grundy etc.
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Would have to improve his disposal by hand but I'm not totally against him playing a tall Easton Wood style role.
 
Pugz89 said:
Wasn't on crutches when I saw him at Friday night game.
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Oh that's good then. I just remember i saw a photo of him last week and he had crutches next to him. Still think hes a very outside chance at best.
 
Has everyone seen the Medical Report? Honey, BTC and Bailey to return this week (all by VFL most likely). Campbell has had a setback or "taking longer to heal" and the club is hopeful he can return for the first final. Morris being managed with back related hamstring tightness so seems unlikely this week. Libba and Macrae still working back and hopeful of a finals return probably.
 

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