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Leader was talked out of stepping down this year by teammates

West Coast veteran Luke Shuey has confirmed he wants to captain the club for a fourth season.

And the 32-year-old told The West Australian he “came really close to handing it in” at the start of this year, but was talked out of it by senior teammates.

Shuey also predicted coach Adam Simpson was the right man to lead the Eagles back into the finals.

The midfielder said “everyone should put their hand up, all 44 players on the list”, to be captain, but he was “happy to do it” if the players wanted him to continue.

The Eagles players vote on the captaincy near the end of each pre-season, with input from senior staff and the coach.

“The players always need a say, there needs to be guidance from above and the coach needs to have his say as well, but the player vote gives you an idea of who the boys want to follow,” Shuey said.

“I’ve always said if that’s me, I am happy to do it, if it is someone else I am happier to stand aside and let them be the man for the job.”

Shuey revealed he told Simpson it was time for a new leader when he strained a hamstring in the 2022 pre-season, on the back of 20 games across two seasons interrupted by soft tissue injuries.

“In the back of my mind I was thinking ‘I will let the boys down, they need a captain who is on the field’,” Shuey said.

“I did my hammy and then straight off the track and spoke to Simmo in his office and said it might be time to let someone else step up to the mantle and I’ll still keep doing what I have always done, I just don’t want to risk not being out there on the field.

“He said ‘go and speak to your closest mates at the club and see what they think’. So I rang a few boys and the message was ‘put your hand up again and nominate’.

“I was reluctant to, but I did and so be it, I was voted in. Fortunately I was able to be out there more than I have been in the past few years.

“So long as the boys want me to do it, I will do it. I still have the energy for the role. What gives me energy is knowing I am wanted in that position.”

Shuey wouldn’t single out a successor but the heirs apparent are Oscar Allen, Tom Barrass and Liam Duggan.

“From a leadership perspective the club is in a really good position going forward,” he said.

“There are obviously a small stable of boys who will be candidates to fill the role after me, whenever that is, but down the road after that bloke there are going to be a couple of pretty special leaders coming through, which I am really looking forward to watching.”

Shuey endorsed Simpson as the coach to take them forward.

“Bloody oath,” he said. “There are five-six years of evidence there. When we had a healthy list available, he took us to finals footy and contended for a premiership,” Shuey said.

“With the new generation coming through, things can turn really quickly. There is no doubt in three or four years’ time if we stick with him, which I think we need to, he is going to be the coach contending for top four again.

“There are going to be new names up in lights around here – and I will probably be retired sitting in the life members enjoying a frothie while watching them – but he is a good man and has another crack at success left in him.”

Shuey played down a niggle to his calf prior to the pre-season.

“I was down south on holiday and up until that stage I had completed every session, was feeling fit, and I went for run and felt the calf grabbed a little bit,” he said.

“So I pulled the stumps on the session, walked home, still to this day not even sure if I strained it or not, but given my history we had a week and a half de-load and rebuild and that coincided with the first week back for the young boys. I was here doing it and it looked like I was in the rehab group, but I was actually on a small incline back into the main sessions and I haven’t had a drama since.”

The importance of stringing together 17 matches in 2022 after he played only seven and 13 in each of the previous two seasons, mainly due to soft-tissue injuries, could not be underestimated.

“The next step is to be able to again stay on the park and get back to my best footy and if I can’t do that then with the young talent we have got coming through it might be time to step aside in the near future,” he said.

Shuey said it was “hard to say” whether his best football was in the rear-view mirror.

“I was extremely confident in the body by the end of the year,” he said.

“There were moments in games where we had a bit of a laugh with a few of the boys when I had to open up and sprint and chase around the younger blokes in the competition with the leg speed I don’t have any more.

“I was getting up to the speeds I used to get up to and the boys reckon they were crapping themselves that I was going to do a hammy. I was able to open up and not think about it, which is a good place to be in.”

He described as refreshing returning to pre-season training and seeing the younger players.

There were five players selected at the national draft — Reuben Ginbey, Elijah Hewett, Harry Barnett, Coby Burgiel and Noah Long — two NGA players ahead of the rookie draft — Jordyn Baker and Tyrell Dewar — and the Eagles also relisted Isiah Winder and Zane Trew.

Shuey described Ginbey, a midfielder/defender from East Perth, as an “18-year-old Adonis” and Hewett, a mid from Swan Districts, as a “hidden gem”.

“Reuben Ginbey is going to be an absolute athlete within the next two years. A scary prospect. I am relieved he is on our side,” he said. “Elijah Hewitt could be the hidden gem. He didn’t exactly slide in the draft, 13 is still a pretty high pick.

“There were 12 blokes clubs rated before him, but if he gets it all together, he could be one of the best of the bunch.”

Shuey said Collingwood and Sydney have proven clubs can climb quickly back up the ladder. “Both bounced back from 17th at the end of the season to play finals the next year,” Shuey said. “You see around the competition the development of young players like Andrew Brayshaw and Luke Davies-Uniacke and even Josh Rachele at Adelaide, just gives you belief these guys can get it right so quick and become stars and you can rely on them carrying your club for seven-eight years.

“We will dream big and be bullish about what we can achieve next year. You need a bit of luck all the time in footy.

“If we get a little bit and our young boys come on in the way we expect them to, then who knows what the season holds for us?”
 

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Leader was talked out of stepping down this year by teammates

West Coast veteran Luke Shuey has confirmed he wants to captain the club for a fourth season.

And the 32-year-old told The West Australian he “came really close to handing it in” at the start of this year, but was talked out of it by senior teammates.

Shuey also predicted coach Adam Simpson was the right man to lead the Eagles back into the finals.

The midfielder said “everyone should put their hand up, all 44 players on the list”, to be captain, but he was “happy to do it” if the players wanted him to continue.

The Eagles players vote on the captaincy near the end of each pre-season, with input from senior staff and the coach.

“The players always need a say, there needs to be guidance from above and the coach needs to have his say as well, but the player vote gives you an idea of who the boys want to follow,” Shuey said.

“I’ve always said if that’s me, I am happy to do it, if it is someone else I am happier to stand aside and let them be the man for the job.”

Shuey revealed he told Simpson it was time for a new leader when he strained a hamstring in the 2022 pre-season, on the back of 20 games across two seasons interrupted by soft tissue injuries.

“In the back of my mind I was thinking ‘I will let the boys down, they need a captain who is on the field’,” Shuey said.

“I did my hammy and then straight off the track and spoke to Simmo in his office and said it might be time to let someone else step up to the mantle and I’ll still keep doing what I have always done, I just don’t want to risk not being out there on the field.

“He said ‘go and speak to your closest mates at the club and see what they think’. So I rang a few boys and the message was ‘put your hand up again and nominate’.

“I was reluctant to, but I did and so be it, I was voted in. Fortunately I was able to be out there more than I have been in the past few years.

“So long as the boys want me to do it, I will do it. I still have the energy for the role. What gives me energy is knowing I am wanted in that position.”

Shuey wouldn’t single out a successor but the heirs apparent are Oscar Allen, Tom Barrass and Liam Duggan.

“From a leadership perspective the club is in a really good position going forward,” he said.

“There are obviously a small stable of boys who will be candidates to fill the role after me, whenever that is, but down the road after that bloke there are going to be a couple of pretty special leaders coming through, which I am really looking forward to watching.”

Shuey endorsed Simpson as the coach to take them forward.

“Bloody oath,” he said. “There are five-six years of evidence there. When we had a healthy list available, he took us to finals footy and contended for a premiership,” Shuey said.

“With the new generation coming through, things can turn really quickly. There is no doubt in three or four years’ time if we stick with him, which I think we need to, he is going to be the coach contending for top four again.

“There are going to be new names up in lights around here – and I will probably be retired sitting in the life members enjoying a frothie while watching them – but he is a good man and has another crack at success left in him.”

Shuey played down a niggle to his calf prior to the pre-season.

“I was down south on holiday and up until that stage I had completed every session, was feeling fit, and I went for run and felt the calf grabbed a little bit,” he said.

“So I pulled the stumps on the session, walked home, still to this day not even sure if I strained it or not, but given my history we had a week and a half de-load and rebuild and that coincided with the first week back for the young boys. I was here doing it and it looked like I was in the rehab group, but I was actually on a small incline back into the main sessions and I haven’t had a drama since.”

The importance of stringing together 17 matches in 2022 after he played only seven and 13 in each of the previous two seasons, mainly due to soft-tissue injuries, could not be underestimated.

“The next step is to be able to again stay on the park and get back to my best footy and if I can’t do that then with the young talent we have got coming through it might be time to step aside in the near future,” he said.

Shuey said it was “hard to say” whether his best football was in the rear-view mirror.

“I was extremely confident in the body by the end of the year,” he said.

“There were moments in games where we had a bit of a laugh with a few of the boys when I had to open up and sprint and chase around the younger blokes in the competition with the leg speed I don’t have any more.

“I was getting up to the speeds I used to get up to and the boys reckon they were crapping themselves that I was going to do a hammy. I was able to open up and not think about it, which is a good place to be in.”

He described as refreshing returning to pre-season training and seeing the younger players.

There were five players selected at the national draft — Reuben Ginbey, Elijah Hewett, Harry Barnett, Coby Burgiel and Noah Long — two NGA players ahead of the rookie draft — Jordyn Baker and Tyrell Dewar — and the Eagles also relisted Isiah Winder and Zane Trew.

Shuey described Ginbey, a midfielder/defender from East Perth, as an “18-year-old Adonis” and Hewett, a mid from Swan Districts, as a “hidden gem”.

“Reuben Ginbey is going to be an absolute athlete within the next two years. A scary prospect. I am relieved he is on our side,” he said. “Elijah Hewitt could be the hidden gem. He didn’t exactly slide in the draft, 13 is still a pretty high pick.

“There were 12 blokes clubs rated before him, but if he gets it all together, he could be one of the best of the bunch.”

Shuey said Collingwood and Sydney have proven clubs can climb quickly back up the ladder. “Both bounced back from 17th at the end of the season to play finals the next year,” Shuey said. “You see around the competition the development of young players like Andrew Brayshaw and Luke Davies-Uniacke and even Josh Rachele at Adelaide, just gives you belief these guys can get it right so quick and become stars and you can rely on them carrying your club for seven-eight years.

“We will dream big and be bullish about what we can achieve next year. You need a bit of luck all the time in footy.

“If we get a little bit and our young boys come on in the way we expect them to, then who knows what the season holds for us?”
He makes a good point that the teams that finished 17th in 2020 and 2021 went on the play finals the next year. Both Sydney and Collingwood had ageing lists and stale gameplans, just like us. However, both had big overhauls of their coaching and gamestyle as well.
 
He makes a good point that the teams that finished 17th in 2020 and 2021 went on the play finals the next year. Both Sydney and Collingwood had ageing lists and stale gameplans, just like us. However, both had big overhauls of their coaching and gamestyle as well.
Sydney brought in Pyke as an assistant but I’m unsure what other changes they made

We made our coaching changes last year bringing in Schofield and Knights but any overhaul they were planning nuked before the season started

Next year we should be able to see what impact they have
 
Liam duggan as captain

vomit GIF
 
Soccer thing.

Garbage sport followed by mostly even more garbage people.

There's a reason it's the second most popular code of football in the countries that have their own code.
Both Marshall McLure and George Orwell equated sport with organised violence. The issue with soccer is the frustrating lack of violence or contest on the field, so it inherently must be taken up offield.

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Both Marshall McLure and George Orwell equated sport with organised violence. The issue with soccer is the frustrating lack of violence or contest on the field, so it inherently must be taken up offield.

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"This game is boring as shit, let's punch on!"

Makes sense really. Well in England anyway.
 
Both Marshall McLure and George Orwell equated sport with organised violence. The issue with soccer is the frustrating lack of violence or contest on the field, so it inherently must be taken up offield.

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Yeah, plus the decades of institutionalised violence amongst the fans.

I remember reading an interview years ago of a reformed hooligan in England, who was indoctrinated by his father. His dad used to sew razer blades into his hat to hit people with.

The author basically said the same thing: Due tot he lack of on-field action, the fans would make action in the stands and pretty much the whole reason for attending games was to get into a brawl with the opposing team's fans.
 

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Pommy mates at work talk about nutters in the upper tiers at the soccer stadiums with darts and sharpened coins in the 80s just throwing them as far as they could into the crowds below.
Sick AF, what's the point of going to a sporting event to not watch it, can't get my head around that type of sh!t.
 
Pommy mates at work talk about nutters in the upper tiers at the soccer stadiums with darts and sharpened coins in the 80s just throwing them as far as they could into the crowds below.
Sick AF, what's the point of going to a sporting event to not watch it, can't get my head around that type of sh!t.

Was having a drink at the cas one time and was speaking to a couple of old English guys, they said one of the things they'd seen was people purchasing hot potatoes at the game, sticking razor blades in them which they had hidden in their shoe and then hurling that into the opposition supporters.

Some real lunatics over there.
 
From SEN...(as per, conveniently no mention of the Sampi hold)


Where we paid a free kick late in the game that wasn’t there and Tyson Stenglein slots it from 50 metres out. He’s never kicked that far in his life but he put it through for a goal and rubs our nose in it.”
Stenglein went back and nailed the goal to put the Eagles within three points in a game they would go on to win by four points.
Commentator Tim Lane said on the broadcast: “This is controversial this decision. That is controversial to say the least.”
However, the Swans exacted revenge by beating the Eagles by four points in the Grand Final just a few weeks later as Barry made amends with his now famous match-saving mark.
 
From SEN...(as per, conveniently no mention of the Sampi hold)


Where we paid a free kick late in the game that wasn’t there and Tyson Stenglein slots it from 50 metres out. He’s never kicked that far in his life but he put it through for a goal and rubs our nose in it.”
Stenglein went back and nailed the goal to put the Eagles within three points in a game they would go on to win by four points.
Commentator Tim Lane said on the broadcast: “This is controversial this decision. That is controversial to say the least.”
However, the Swans exacted revenge by beating the Eagles by four points in the Grand Final just a few weeks later as Barry made amends with his now famous match-saving mark.
That Stenglein decision was horrendous to be fair.
 
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