Interstate sides in GFs

[blue harvest]

What does Wiki say about NRL? Interstate sides haven't had a problem winning that the last 20 years.

 

[sprockets]

It's a blatantly unfair situation in the game that matters most. There is little doubt that Adelaide would've won this game at Adelaide Oval.

The capacity argument is not a valid one unless it's applied consistently - the GWS v.s. West Coast final for example would've got more fans had it been played at Subiaco Oval (or even in Melbourne).

Richmond plays and trains at the MCG around 15 times per year. Adelaide plays and trains at Adelaide oval around 170 times per year. Who has the vastly bigger home ground advantage?

BTW we played Adelaide once during the H&A season, at AO with no return bout at the MCG or anywhere else. We'd obviously have beaten them at the MCG and finished above them on the ladder.

 

[kranky al]

What does Wiki say about NRL? Interstate sides haven't had a problem winning that the last 20 years.

As far as i can see only one nrl club has stadium australia as its home ground.

Seems to be a bit of a wembley type of ground where its neutral except for one team.

 

[kranky al]

Richmond plays and trains at the MCG around 15 times per year. Adelaide plays and trains at Adelaide oval around 170 times per year. Who has the vastly bigger home ground advantage?

BTW we played Adelaide once during the H&A season, at AO with no return bout at the MCG or anywhere else. We'd obviously have beaten them at the MCG and finished above them on the ladder.

The team that plays an unearned gf at its home ground.

 

[sprockets]

The team that plays an unearned gf at its home ground.

But we'd have earned it if the H&A season was fair, right? Swings and roundabouts.

 

[Komrade_Tiger]

If we go back far enough then Collingwood have won a lot of flags as well. It is not relevant to the discussion though. Only modern history should be taken into account since the game has changed a lot since 1998, or even 2004.

so should we discount the 3peat of the team of champions in hawthorn?

seeing as we're allowed to chop and change what is relevant to the discussion

 

[kranky al]

But we'd have earned it if the H&A season was fair, right? Swings and roundabouts.

Oh for sure

I mean if you travelled interstate for 50% of your matches.... oh

You guys dont do that well away from the g do you


18th - Beat brisbane at the gabba by 52

1st - Lost to adelaide at ao by 76

10th - Lost to the dogs at etihad by 5

4th - Lost to gws by 3 at spotless

15th - Beat roos by 35 at etihad

5th - Beat port by 13 at ao

11th - Lost by 67 to saints at etihad

18th - Beat brisbane at etihad by 31

17th - Beat gc by 33 at metricon

2nd - Lost to geelong by 14 at skilled

14th - Beat freo by 104 at subi

 

[blue harvest]

As far as i can see only one nrl club has stadium australia as its home ground.

Seems to be a bit of a wembley type of ground where its neutral except for one team.

But I keep hearing it's not just about the stadium, it's about the travel and crowd and umps.

 

[kranky al]

But I keep hearing it's not just about the stadium, it's about the travel and crowd and umps.

And your side keeps dribbling that the mcg is a neutral venue

 

[Komrade_Tiger]

Where did they deal with these top 4 teams again?

They should have been down the road that the cattery for one of them.

Big chance that would have been the end of their season right there.

uh no.

AFL rules are home state. They've played 1 final there in over 100 years. Get your ****ing hands off of it.

 

[shniko11]

Some salty posts in here by some who think the world is against them it's abit cringeworthy.

 

[Komrade_Tiger]

Interstate teams play their games vs geelong at the cattery

Good for the goose good for the gander

it's happened once and was only done to avoid using Etihad. But y'know facts don't count here.

 

[sprockets]

Oh for sure

I mean if you travelled interstate for 50% of your matches.... oh

You guys dont do that well away from the g do you


18th - Beat brisbane at the gabba by 52

1st - Lost to adelaide at ao by 76

10th - Lost to the dogs at etihad by 5

4th - Lost to gws by 3 at spotless

15th - Beat roos by 35 at etihad

5th - Beat port by 13 at ao

11th - Lost by 67 to saints at etihad

18th - Beat brisbane at etihad by 31

17th - Beat gc by 33 at metricon

2nd - Lost to geelong by 14 at skilled

14th - Beat freo by 104 at subi

So we won 6 from 11 away then? There wouldn't have been many teams that did that. We also beat Adelaide at the G yesterday in the 'return' bout. Considering the massive differential between the two home ground advantages any fair minded judge (eg, not you) would say that we won overall.

 

[Komrade_Tiger]

Ladder ranking only counts for week 1 of finals, after that it's null and void, the finals system takes over.

Get those facts out of here

 

[kranky al]

So we won 6 from 11 away then? There wouldn't have been many teams that did that. We also beat Adelaide at the G yesterday in the 'return' bout. Considering the massive differential between the two home ground advantages any fair minded judge (eg, not you) would say that we won overall.

Look at who you beat - the best was 5th lolport - the next best was 14th fremantle

Feel your heart swell with pride at those two huge scalps

 

[madmug]

Richmond plays and trains at the MCG around 15 times per year. Adelaide plays and trains at Adelaide oval around 170 times per year. Who has the vastly bigger home ground advantage?

The GF was at the G. Thats where the advantage counts at the end of the season. How many games Adelaide played at AO is irrelevant.

 

[Komrade_Tiger]

So we won 6 from 11 away then? There wouldn't have been many teams that did that. We also beat Adelaide at the G yesterday in the 'return' bout. Considering the massive differential between the two home ground advantages any fair minded judge (eg, not you) would say that we won overall.

2 of those away games were influenced by dubious umps decisions. but y'know that doesn't fit the narrative does it?

 

[shotgun_blues]

The Dogs wouldn't have won he flag at home if they didn't win their interstate PF v GWS away (and EF v WCE in WA).

Same with Hawthorn the year before, PF v Fremantle away in WA. Still won.

Excuses.

Best team will win.

 

[sprockets]

Look at who you beat - the best was 5th lolport - the next best was 14th fremantle

Feel your heart swell with pride at those two huge scalps

Well, the season is about winning the flag and having a good overall year, so yeah, I'm proud of the Tigers. How's your team going, filling you with pride or maybe filling you with salt?

 

[Kummerspeck]

How does Adelaide getting rolled and Eagles and Swans getting their pants pulled down prove there is an advantage?

What have you got to prove there’s an advantage? Nothing.

Years of research proving the existence of home advantage? Is this going to be one of those situations where no matter what's given to you, the bar for acceptable evidence keeps being raised?

Edit: Obviously it will be:

Nothing that relates to AFL in that wiki fan edited article. Keep trying.

 

[sprockets]

The GF was at the G. Thats where the advantage counts at the end of the season. How many games Adelaide played at AO is irrelevant.

But it's not really much of an advantage considering we don't train there. Let it sink in that Adelaide played and trained at their home ground 170 times this season compared to Richmond's 15 at the MCG and even then we had players with even less experience there than that. So, to get to the GF Adelaide had a massive advantage over Richmond and then we beat them in the return bout.

 

[kranky al]

The Dogs wouldn't have won he flag at home if they didn't win their interstate PF v GWS away (and EF v WCE in WA).

Same with Hawthorn the year before, PF v Fremantle away in WA. Still won.

Excuses.

Best team will win.

The dogs did well

Hawthorn lost to us in perth but - dont leave that out - they got a footy lesson at our home ground - and returned the favour at their home ground

 

[bh90210fan]

The Dogs wouldn't have won he flag at home if they didn't win their interstate PF v GWS away (and EF v WCE in WA).

Same with Hawthorn the year before, PF v Fremantle away in WA. Still won.

Excuses.

Best team will win.

WC finished above you on the ladder
Beat you in a fair final at our home ground
Lost to you in the GF when you finished below us
*

 

[kranky al]

But it's not really much of an advantage considering we don't train there. Let it sink in that Adelaide played and trained at their home ground 170 times this season compared to Richmond's 15 at the MCG and even then we had players with even less experience there than that. So, to get to the GF Adelaide had a massive advantage over Richmond and then we beat them in the return bout.

They trained at ao 170 times this year?

Can you link this stat please - most clubs have training facilities

 

[Pessimistic]

The Dogs wouldn't have won he flag at home if they didn't win their interstate PF v GWS away (and EF v WCE in WA).

Same with Hawthorn the year before, PF v Fremantle away in WA. Still won.

Excuses.

Best team will win.

Grand finalists, head to head over the season, support the grand final result, it can be argued

Except maybe 2017