Iran Conflict 2019 - ??

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DesertRoo said:
There’s a massive difference between intel gathering, plausible deniability and military officers.
A special forces in Iran would stick out like a sore thumb.

Most of the guys in intel wouldn’t have been thru basic training.
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If they were sending field agents to Iran, believe they'd be trained more to special forces standard than average grunts.
 
JeanLucGoddard said:
If they were sending field agents to Iran, believe they'd be trained more to special forces standard than average grunts.
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Depends on what they’re doing, they sound more like Otto Warmbier then Pavlichenko. At a guess, someone was just getting elevation certainty of a mountain range. No need to send a highly trained killer to do that.
 
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JeanLucGoddard said:
Still no response from the Saudis or the Americans.

Iranian prestige increasing daily here.
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Be carful what you wish for here... all of this is just conditioning trump supporters for war.

There’s going to be no winners and the people of Iran will suffer the most.

Although the mental gymnastics used by cnn and co to justify defending the country that supplied all of the 9/11 hijackers will be something else.
 
DesertRoo said:
Be carful what you wish for here... all of this is just conditioning trump supporters for war.

There’s going to be no winners and the people of Iran will suffer the most.

Although the mental gymnastics used by cnn and co to justify defending the country that supplied all of the 9/11 hijackers will be something else.
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Nah, nah I don't reckon at all.

Trump will not go to war - it is his most attractive quality as a leader.

But he shouldn't have walked away from the JCPOA - his impetuousness and lack of understanding of wider issues and when he is being manipulated is his least attractive.

Now he's stuck between a rock and a really hard place.
 
JeanLucGoddard said:
Nah, nah I don't reckon at all.

Trump will not go to war - it is his most attractive quality as a leader.

But he shouldn't have walked away from the JCPOA - his impetuousness and lack of understanding of wider issues and when he is being manipulated is his least attractive.

Now he's stuck between a rock and a really hard place.
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I’m on the other side of the fence, American policy doesn’t change. The goal of JCPOA was to have inspectors go in and dismantle any WMD for the next president to attack.
Similar what trumps done with Kimmi. Trumps next term is when it’ll happen.
 
JeanLucGoddard said:
Nah, nah I don't reckon at all.

Trump will not go to war - it is his most attractive quality as a leader.

But he shouldn't have walked away from the JCPOA - his impetuousness and lack of understanding of wider issues and when he is being manipulated is his least attractive.

Now he's stuck between a rock and a really hard place.
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www.reuters.com

European powers back U.S. in blaming Iran for Saudi oil attack, urge broader talks

Britain, Germany and France backed the United States and blamed Iran on Monday for an attack on Saudi oil facilities, urging Tehran to agree to new talks with world powers on its nuclear and missile programs and regional security issues.
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How long til all the members of JCPOA leave and blame Iran for failing to meet its obligations?
 
The Trump administration only briefly considered a military response, before dispatching Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to Riyadh and then announcing the deployment of additional U.S. ground forces to help the Saudis improve their air defenses—a strategy that a senior Pentagon civilian described as “talking big and carrying a swagger stick.” In fact, the bluff and bluster belied the reality of what is actually happening in the region, this same Pentagon civilian told me. “We’re not the only ones moving pieces on the board,” he said. “Over the last two years, the Iranians have shown that they can hit us and our allies from all kinds of places.”

According to this official, the U.S. and Iran have been engaged in “a kind of low intensity proxy war” in Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and the waters of the Persian Gulf since May 2018, when Washington withdrew from the U.S.-Iran Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action. By one count, the tit-for-tat conflict (“an escalatory salvo in an expanding regional power struggle,” as one report phrased it), has included the bombing of oil tankers, drone strikes on key ports, missile strikes on Riyadh, cross border operations targeting Saudi soldiers, and a drone offensive on the Golan Heights.

The attacks have run parallel to Iran’s decision to upgrade and expand its support for Iranian proxies in the region, which, in turn, sparked the scrambling of Israeli jets to bomb suspected Iranian bases in Syria, Lebanon, and (most recently) Iraq. While the tit-for-tat blows have not yet put the U.S. and Iran into a direct confrontation, both nations are climbing the escalatory ladder towards war. Tehran’s new calculus (“expanding the battlefield,” as the senior Pentagon civilian phrased it) means that any U.S. strike against Iran itself would have to take into account multiple responses that would pit Iran and its allies (including Hezbollah) against the U.S. and its allies (including Israel).

“You know that popular map that you see on Twitter that shows that Iran is surrounded by U.S. bases?” the Pentagon civilian asks rhetorically. “Well, guess what? The Iranians have now surrounded Saudi Arabia. And so while we’ve ratcheted up the economic pressure, they’ve decided to do the same. Last week’s message was loud and clear—if we can’t market our oil, we’re going to make damn sure you can’t market yours.”

Left unsaid, but implied in this assessment, is what the official was careful not to say: that despite all of America’s saber rattling and Mike Pompeo’s bluster, the U.S. is playing an increasingly weak military hand—and it’s only getting weaker.
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www.theamericanconservative.com

The Military Officials Who Knew Saudi Arabia Would Fail

Privately they've been saying for years that Riyadh can't win in Yemen and that we shouldn't have given the Houthis up.
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This is in THE AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE

Tell me WA ROO and Poor Form ... is this US conservatives desperately hoping for war with Iran too?
 

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JeanLucGoddard said:


Oh hey look, the US moving it's air operations HQ out of Bahrain because they can't defend it against Iranian attack.

Poor Form WA ROO
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When they’re talking of peace and planning for war.
Qatar is not Bahrain, Qatar is where the joint deconfliction channel was set up between the USA and Russia.
The removal of US admirals and key decision makers from the area is certainly not a good thing.
The threat of an escalation/miscalculation has just increase tenfold.
 
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DesertRoo said:
www.theguardian.com

Australian travel bloggers released in Iran were freed in apparent prisoner swap

Release of Jolie King and Mark Firkin comes as an Iranian doctoral student held in Brisbane avoids extradition to the US
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Just your ordinary everyday prison swap..
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Yeah since when did we become (sensible) like the French and Italians and do deals in these instances.

I have a theory. Australian intelligence did a deal with their Iranian counterparts and then told Scott Morrison they had a present for him. An announcsble.
 
JeanLucGoddard said:
Yeah since when did we become (sensible) like the French and Italians and do deals in these instances.

I have a theory. Australian intelligence did a deal with their Iranian counterparts and then told Scott Morrison they had a present for him. An announcsble.
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In these high level talks, I’m just hoping they didn’t concede in the appellation of Shiraz.

Scott Morrisons Marketing plan of relabelling his favourite drop as bogan red, and offloading to Americans probably needs a little work.

on the plus side, invest in Aussie cheese and pork.

mobile.reuters.com

U.S. importers stockpile Parmigiano, Provolone as tariffs on EU cheeses loom

Ambriola Co Inc's mammoth warehouse in West Caldwell, New Jersey, is crammed full of boxes and wheels of harder cheeses such as Parmigiano Reggiano, Pecorino Romano and Grana Padano - and more is coming, lots more.
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www.middleeastmonitor.com

Israel: Questions about mysterious flight between Tel Aviv and Riyadh

A Challenger 604 private jet left Ben Gurion International Airport near Tel Aviv on Tuesday evening for an airport in the Jordanian capital of Amman, where it stopped for two...
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Challenger 604 private jet left Ben Gurion International Airport near Tel Aviv on Tuesday evening for an airport in the Jordanian capital of Amman, where it stopped for two minutes before taking off to an airport in the Saudi capital, Riyadh...

There have been numerous reports in recent years of Israeli-Saudi security and intelligence coordination regarding the Iranian file.
 
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