Some years pick 40 is worth more than pick 1
...that's was a thinly veiled swipe at Collingwood btw
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Is Andrew Lovett worth a late 1st rounder?
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Some years pick 40 is worth more than pick 1
...that's was a thinly veiled swipe at Collingwood btw
And there we have it, West Coast's version of Jason Laycock is worth pick 26 iyho
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I don't think that's what I actually said.And there we have it, West Coast's version of Jason Laycock is worth pick 26 iyho
I certainly didn't say, "he's worth x". My line throughout has been "a player is worth whatever another club is willing to offer in return".
Instead of making a coherent argument, you just distort those made by others. Poor effort.
If West Coast were talking to Richmond about Seaby, discussion would revolve around Richmond's pick 26. Do you disagree with this?
I didn't say it would be a straight swap. Nor did I say that both clubs would end being sufficiently happy that a deal would be done.
Ok, you're West Coast Coast's List Manager, what would be the minimum you'd accept as compensation for Seaby?
And a second question, do you believe Seaby is better than Laycock?
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It depends how desperate Seaby is to leave.
If he's happy to stay, I'd probably drive a harder bargain than if he was set on leaving.
I would package Seaby with pick 36 and try for the best upgrade possible. I'd say that pick 30 would be the minimum I'd accept if Seaby was determined to leave. I'd obviously be pushing for more than that.
Relevance?
I don't think Seaby is a star, but he's probably ahead of Laycock. It's not a point I feel passionately about.
Just that Laycock is heavily maligned and has had a disappointing season and Seaby's season has mirrored Laycock's (similar stats, but Laycock kicks a few more goals). You say a pick around 30 would be your asking price for Seaby and I personally think neither he or Laycock are worth anything better than a 4th or even 5th round pick.
Now there's Lovett...you're the List Manager of a side lacking pace and goal kickers, Lovett says "I wanna play at you're club bro"...you have pick x that you're willing to offer the Bombers. What is the value of x?
I did miss that part. Richmond have 26, so an upgrade from 36 to 26 is what you're saying. Where did pick 30 come from?
And no I don't see why the question is stupid. It's a hypothetical situation with no club specified, hence I don't know what picks you have. Basically x is the maximum you'd offer for Lovett...
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Pick 30 would be the minimum I would accept for Seaby and pick 36.
Provided Seaby could not be convinced to stay.
The phrase "pick x" refers to a pick of indeterminant value.
Your question "what is the value of pick x" is self-defeating. There is no answer, because no-one knows what x represents.
If this were in person, I could talk slower, but typing slower doesn't have the same effect.
lloydy_loinchop
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Dude, just answer the damn question. Stop avoiding it, or are you a professional politician?
Maybe I'm giving an idiot too much credit in thinking you're capable of answering a pretty simple question.
Pick x is any draft pick in you're possession that you're willing trade. You pulled pick 30 out of thin air before when discussing Seaby...are you capable of doing similar in a hypothetical trade for Lovett?
See Gunnar, loinchop understood the question and also picked out that you're being a douche by avoiding giving an answer.
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Which question do you want me to answer?
I don't know the value of pick x. No-one does. It's pick x. By definition, its value is unknown.
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Well, is it pick 20 or pick 36 or pick 52?
All those picks are of different value.
It wasn't "out of thin air".
It was the minimum I would accept for Seaby and pick 36 provided Seaby was determined to leave.
I thought about it and drew a conclusion.
Doing what?
Suggesting a hypothetical trade for Lovett?
I wouldn't offer pick 20 for Lovett.
Pick 36, sure. But West Coast wouldn't want Lovett to begin with. Too much of a headcase.
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How did he demonstrate that he understood the question?
If you don't understand why the question "what is the value of pick x?" is stupid, then you're battling.
The value of "pick x", by definition, is unknown. That's why you use x instead of an actual number. Do you understand this?
And I'm not avoiding giving an answer. I'm just waiting for you to ask a question that isn't self-defeating.
You've really struggled in this thread, haven't you?
You started out by trying to be a smart-arse, but have just rolled yourself over and over by asking stupid questions.
Paddywhackers
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imo Lovett is worth a third rounder. Where did anyone get the idea he was worth a first rounder? Deluded bomber supporters prehahps?
BookerTwilliams
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im not sure what hes worth IMO probably a early second round, he is a game breaker
but that is seriously funny, if he was a Collingwood player pie fans would be screaming for a first round pick for him. Any player wearing black and white is rated 15% higher than their actual ability suggests. Dale Thomas is a good example, Pie, superstar, rest of the league, inconsistent flog with bad hair
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So when are Essendon fans going to concede defeat on this one?
I'm not talking about reasonable Essendon fans - just the clueless ones who thought Lovett would fetch a first-rounder.
I'm not talking about reasonable Essendon fans - just the clueless ones who thought Lovett would fetch a first-rounder.
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Yeah we overrate our players... but maybe you guys overrate how bad Didak's off field issues are/were. Especially when you compare them to this guy:
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Violence towards women is worse than being drunk in a car no matter what angle you idiots put on it.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/natio...over-exs-claims/2007/02/22/1171733950465.html
Violence towards women is worse than being drunk in a car no matter what angle you idiots put on it.
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Lovett is worth whatever another club will offer in return.
DapperDon
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Both are dogs of blokes, don't try and talk up Didak's incident because he didn't abuse women. Both of them are dogs.
Typical Collingwood nuffie, "Didak didn't hit a women, so he's a good guy"
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