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Is North Melbourne passing on Logan McDonald going to be the 2021 version of the Bulldogs passing on Buddy for Ryan Griffin
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Hawthorn in 2005 were almost as bad as North, and Buddy in his rookie year never had a game where he never had a mark. Same with Roughead.
Also Logan only had two kicks for the game and he fumbled the ball a couple of times when it could've of been an easy mark. That's probably why he had only two kicks. Roughead never did that in his rookie year, and Buddy once but at least he kicked a goal that game.
It's not the Swans fault they have the worser player, they were down the draft order.
The consistent knock on North for the last DECADE has been that we don't have any "classy midfielders".
Phillips looks to me like a clean, self-assured, classy midfielder. He's confident and clearly backs himself. He is exactly the kind of player we have been crying out for, for years.
I watched Sydney for the first time this year on Thursday night and didn't notice McDonald at all. Does that mean he's a spud? Certainly not. He might end up being a better player than Phillips. He will be playing on a team that has time and again proven to be better run and better resourced than North. He has better mids (the very problem Phillips was drafted to remedy) kicking it into him. His team are 4-0. North are 0-4, with a percentage of 40-something. North have realised that plugging holes every year to sneak into the finals isn't going to get us anywhere. We are starting from ground zero. If they identified Phillips as ground zero, then **** it, let's see what he can do. Really liked his game against the Crows, he was fumbly against the Dogs but we lost that game by 8000 points so I'll allow it.
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Phillips looks to me like a clean, self-assured, classy midfielder. He's confident and clearly backs himself. He is exactly the kind of player we have been crying out for, for years.
I watched Sydney for the first time this year on Thursday night and didn't notice McDonald at all. Does that mean he's a spud? Certainly not. He might end up being a better player than Phillips. He will be playing on a team that has time and again proven to be better run and better resourced than North. He has better mids (the very problem Phillips was drafted to remedy) kicking it into him. His team are 4-0. North are 0-4, with a percentage of 40-something. North have realised that plugging holes every year to sneak into the finals isn't going to get us anywhere. We are starting from ground zero. If they identified Phillips as ground zero, then **** it, let's see what he can do. Really liked his game against the Crows, he was fumbly against the Dogs but we lost that game by 8000 points so I'll allow it.
See you in ten years.
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Huge mistake
Hope McDonald loves Sydney as much as Phillips loves North - otherwise Freo and Eagles will be chasing their man home in a few years.
Well Kennedy is soon to retire and Freo definitely a tall forward.
This is a big reason I think North didn't select McDonald.
I don't think he'd stick around for a rebuilding North when Fremantle and West Coast start throwing big money at him.
Besides, McDonald may not even end up being the best tall. Cox, JUH and Thilthorpe could all be better.
The right long term strategy is to pick the player you think will be the best. Picking for needs specifically is the wrong path to take that early in the draft. It is far to early to assess who will be the better player.
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Haha you’re actually trying to rip into a 19 year old KPP in his 5th game.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
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I like Phillips. They will likely to get Horne if they want him, who will be a star imo.
Nothing wrong with building a high quality midfield.
Nothing wrong with building a high quality midfield.
Huh? Are you okay?
Luckily the closest prospect to a young Chris Judd is going to walk through the door in December if we have #1.
We probably couldn't have timed our first #1 pick any better tbh.
Just like "the most compromised draft in history" was getting run ad nauseum this time last year, the new one is "There's no KPP in the 2021 draft"
Except eDPS's early top 20 has 4 KPP's placed between 10-20. Perfectly placed for our second round pick. If we get any sort of PP, we likely get 2 of the best 4 KPP's in this draft.
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JUH & Thilthorpe were selected earlier than McDonald (which itself will be subject to endless debate over coming years) and Cox looks good as a 'unique' outside mid that seems to have huge scope to develop his inside game as his body develops, so not really comparable.
Even if Philips ends up better than McDonald, the debate won't end there.
This year's draft crop is very heavy on mids and North are likely to have pick 1, so will be selecting another mid. Where does that leave their KPF stocks? Larkey looks 'ok' but who else goes down there? Xerri could be that ruck/forward but it doesn't seem like a set up that will stress opposition defences.
Charlie Comben is rated by the club probably higher than Larkey, he's part of the reason the club traded Brown. They definitely think they have jagged one there.
He's had every injury under the sun and wont be fit until after the bye, yet to play a game obviously, so he might yet amount to nothing.
But he's on the list and the club have high hopes for him given what he was doing to Tarrant and Walker in the 2020 pre-season as a newly drafted kid.
It's not as if this is a single year rebuild either, I'm not sure why opposition fans continue with this faux concern about our KPP not being resolved in a single draft.
No reason we can't take a KPF/KPD in the 10-20 range this year and continue building our stocks around Phillips, Powell, Horne, LDU etc in the 22/23 drafts.
Last I checked the Dogs took all of Wallis, Libba, Stringer, Marae, Bontempelli all years before they took English and Naughton.....
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The whole point of raising the 2021 draft in light of the 2020 draft discussion was to point that building a list takes more than one year.
Comben has shown promise but can his body stand up to week in, week out senior football?
And yes, I'm aware that lacking a KPF or two can hurt a club's chances. Our 2008-2010 prelim run is testament to that and we spent years looking for KPFs.
Who knows?
Is Riley Thilthorpes? He had OP all of last year and we haven't seen him yet.
Is Logan McDonald?
We've been unlucky with Comben's injuries to date, but the club had seen enough of him to trade out a 28 year old KPF that had kicked the most goals in the comp for the previous 4 seasons.
Who's to say we don't end up with Van Rooyen at the end of the year? The club has a specific plan that has yet to be played out.
Criticise them in 3 years if you will, but not after 1 draft of the main rebuild.
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Phillips and Powell already showing they're going to be cornerstones of North's midfield for a decade.
We've got decent young tall KPF stocks already in Larkey and Xerri/Comben recuperating from injury
What we haven't had is high quality disposal from our mids like here.
This analysis from our own Rick18 shows how those two create a goal with no KPF needed.
We've got decent young tall KPF stocks already in Larkey and Xerri/Comben recuperating from injury
What we haven't had is high quality disposal from our mids like here.
This analysis from our own Rick18 shows how those two create a goal with no KPF needed.
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More accurately, the system should not allow such double bites
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I'd be shocked if they weren't chasing him right now.
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He would also have got a phone call from West Coast asking if he wants to set up himself and and his family for life in under two years.
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