Is there a club that handles adversity worse than the West Coast Eagles?

[Herne Hill Hammer]

They really need everything to be just so for them.

Their fragility was really highlighted for me last year when Simpson was whinging within days of the Eagles entering the Qld hub with the Eagles threatening to go home and stay home. Fast forward to a week ago and Simpson's ham fisted attempt at complaining about the drop in footy department spending and the possibility that it could lead to not drafting kids from broken homes or public schools.

Displays at Kardinia against Geelong and Sydney this year, today v Collingwood at the MCG.

They need their safe space that McGowan has created for them over in WA. Their stadium, their crowd, no wind, no rain, change any of them and they really lack resilience. They don't seem able to adapt to last minute changes, whether that be venues, travel or crowds.

 

[Foucault1989]

When they are off, they are horrible. The gap between their best in their comfort zone and their worst is huge.

They look slow, horrible spread and fragile.

 

[Chat Pile]

Sad to see such talent crumble due to fragility.

 

[the harry]

Not sure what adversity we faced this week? We just played awful.

 

[le dominateur]

They need their safe space that McGowan has created for them over in WA. Their stadium, their crowd, their umpires, no wind, no rain, change any of them and they really lack resilience. They don't seem able to adapt to last minute changes, whether that be venues, travel or crowds.

 

[Scotland]

Boring and predictable thread.

It's not 2014/15. There is no adversity about playing Essendon at home (after they played Dreamtime at the G in Perth), or playing Sydney at Kardinia Park, or playing the bottom team in the comp at home.

Our best footy this year has been patchy at best. Our worst has been deplorable. We are only in the 8 because Carlton and St Kilda can't get their shit together and Richmond have half a team.

 

[Jezzaubeautym8]

I agree. Chris Scott

Chris Scott

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2.8

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0.4

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complains of 6 day breaks & home games but he doesn't kamikaze his club to prove a point

 

[bzparkes]

Yes, Geelong when they have to play finals since 2012.

Seriously though, what adversity are you referring to?

Also, the 'whinging' about the hub is incredibly overrated and 'threatening to go home' are your words, not the club's. There was only one club in tears who were threatening not to hub in a famous Zoom call and it wasn't WCE players...

 

[the harry]

Boring and predictable thread.

It's not 2014/15. There is no adversity about playing Essendon at home (after they played Dreamtime at the G in Perth), or playing Sydney at Kardinia Park, or playing the bottom team in the comp at home.

Our best footy this year has been patchy at best. Our worst has been deplorable. We are only in the 8 because Carlton and St Kilda can't get their sh*t together and Richmond have half a team.

Agree with this. We're in the 8 because 10 other teams suck more right now.

 

[Tasmanian saint]

Agree with this. We're in the 8 because 10 other teams suck more right now.

Do you think Simpson is 100 % safe if the rest of the season turns to shit ?

 

[Ok Boomer]

Well I can't mount a strong argument against this thread.

The one thing I will say is that the "can't travel" analysis is lazy, there are much deeper issues than that and they have been festering since 2019.

 

[dcutter]

Would have to be the worst team in the AFL when it rains. A lot of their dismal performances this year have been on wet tracks, at home and away.

But agree with the consenus. They like it their way and lack grunt when it gets hard. Possibly the biggest underperformer over the past two covid years where clubs have had to dig deep. The list is good and should be pushing top 4.

Its not so much the losses but the manner of a few of them, they simply don't dig in.

Big questions over Simpson at the moment. Todays game was against a decimated outfit with 5 or so players under 10 games.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Would have to be the worst team in the AFL when it rains. A lot of their dismal performances this year have been on wet tracks, at home and away.

But agree with the consenus. They like it their way and lack grunt when it gets hard. Possibly the biggest underperformer over the past two covid years where clubs have had to dig deep. The list is good and should be pushing top 4.

Its not so much the losses but the manner of a few of them, they simply don't dig in.

Big questions over Simpson at the moment. Todays game was against a decimated outfit with 5 or so players under 10 games.

Probably summed it up better than my OP.

 

[PrisonBars4life]

There is no question that WC are hot and cold, but it is kind of funny to watch the pile on. Funny how WC got dumped on for getting antsy while most Victorian players were sleeping in their own beds last year (which apparently gives you magic powers). Shoes on the other foot, and the AFL rolls out 5 star resorts, families staying and still there were tears, there were further demands, there were claims that teams like Port had it easy despite being FIFO into Qld and had a couple of extra (and only a couple) games in their home state. Meanwhile, who are the players sooking so they don't get drafted to certain clubs, who are the ones 'going home' after 2 years. Sooky Vic metro kids. WC are 1 of 2 clubs to win a flag in the past 4 years and 1 of 5 in the last decade, they are equal top on the AFL premierships list, they will probably play finals this year, and still have a decent side. They're one of the richest clubs in the comp. Not sure why people are getting stuck into a club that is most likely better than theirs.

 

[the harry]

Do you think Simpson is 100 % safe if the rest of the season turns to sh*t ?

This is a shit season by the standards we should aim for.

The club should give him the chance to turn it around though. The last two years we've been a tight game v tigers from top 4 and a bullshit result v the dogs in 2020. With an aging list, if they try and squeeze another shot they have to back in the majority of the coaching staff to use the summer to change things.

To get a new coach would be to put a line through Redden, Shuey, JK, NicNat ect. Although a few of the players on that age group should be considering retirement anyway.

 

[The 747]

There is no question that WC are hot and cold, but it is kind of funny to watch the pile on. Funny how WC got dumped on for getting antsy while most Victorian players were sleeping in their own beds last year (which apparently gives you magic powers). Shoes on the other foot, and the AFL rolls out 5 star resorts, families staying and still there were tears, there were further demands, there were claims that teams like Port had it easy despite being FIFO into Qld and had a couple of extra (and only a couple) games in their home state. Meanwhile, who are the players sooking so they don't get drafted to certain clubs, who are the ones 'going home' after 2 years. Sooky Vic metro kids. WC are 1 of 2 clubs to win a flag in the past 4 years and 1 of 5 in the last decade, they are equal top on the AFL premierships list, they will probably play finals this year, and still have a decent side. They're one of the richest clubs in the comp. Not sure why people are getting stuck into a club that is most likely better than theirs.

Blah blah blah #VICBIAS

 

[The 747]

This year and last they remind me of Geelong a bit before Bomber Thompson, lots of talent, can look a million dollars against any team but fall apart at inexplicable times and look like a bottom 4 side.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Not many clubs could handle the adversity of having that shithouse midfield and carrying Jack Darling

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[Sweet Jesus]

They really need everything to be just so for them.

Their fragility was really highlighted for me last year when Simpson was whinging within days of the Eagles entering the Qld hub with the Eagles threatening to go home and stay home. Fast forward to a week ago and Simpson's ham fisted attempt at complaining about the drop in footy department spending and the possibility that it could lead to not drafting kids from broken homes or public schools.

Displays at Kardinia against Geelong and Sydney this year, today v Collingwood at the MCG.

They need their safe space that McGowan has created for them over in WA. Their stadium, their crowd, no wind, no rain, change any of them and they really lack resilience. They don't seem able to adapt to last minute changes, whether that be venues, travel or crowds.

I'm not inclined to defend our results this season because I agree they have been appalling. There have been several results that in any other year would be the season low-point. I can't explain it. I've said several times that something is NQR between the ears but beyond that I have no real answers. It's not like we're carrying the older guys either - Hurn, JK, NicNat - they've been better than OK. It's like a system failure, or the game plan breaks down. But yes, effort must be considered part of that. Damo with Damo was right for once: there should be a review because this year has been well short of acceptable. A brown sandwich of Ben Dixon proportions.

As for handling adversity, though, the club did pretty well in 2018 without Naitanui, Gaff and Sheppard at the pointy end. That doesn't redeem the results this year but it's worth noting if we're making sweeping statements about what the club can and can't do.

 

[deck]

They really need everything to be just so for them.

Their fragility was really highlighted for me last year when Simpson was whinging within days of the Eagles entering the Qld hub with the Eagles threatening to go home and stay home. Fast forward to a week ago and Simpson's ham fisted attempt at complaining about the drop in footy department spending and the possibility that it could lead to not drafting kids from broken homes or public schools.

Displays at Kardinia against Geelong and Sydney this year, today v Collingwood at the MCG.

They need their safe space that McGowan has created for them over in WA. Their stadium, their crowd, no wind, no rain, change any of them and they really lack resilience. They don't seem able to adapt to last minute changes, whether that be venues, travel or crowds.

As apposed to Chris Scott who can't stop telling anyone who will listen how difficult Geelong circumstances have been this year and how well the have dealt with it. Just make sure you note that not everyone has had to deal with the tough circumstances Geelong have dealt with.

 

[Wosh]

Dunno about adversity but we’re not very good at football right now.

 

[PrisonBars4life]

Blah blah blah #VICBIAS

Blah blah blah, the 5 star hotel's pillows were too soft. How are we supposed to compete with that kind of adversity.

 

[kozi]

Their stadium, their crowd, no wind, no rain

Having 4/4 of these is just about a pre-requisite for considering rocking up to play. 3/4 or less and it’s forfeit.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

They need their safe space that McGowan has created for them over in WA. Their stadium, their crowd, no wind, no rain, change any of them and they really lack resilience.

You forgot one. No tackling!

Just let us run around playing keepings-off with our neat skills and fancy clean hands.

It's like a video game where the ball never hits the ground.

But in all seriousness, we did beat Collingwood in a GF at the MCG after going down by 5 goals. Without the players mentioned. That was resilient. But yes, it's deserted us since.

 

[Captain_Bender]

As a club they have never faced any significant hardships in their entire history, yet their fragile supporter base somehow thinks they are hard done by