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Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack III
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I tend to look at the 50 or so palestinians getting killed each day with the majority of them women and children...
If you dont see what the americans might call the "turkey shoot" aspect of this supposed war, then I wont be trying to convince you otherwise...
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Yeah not de-escalating any time soon i guess.
Interesting language, that Palestinians "fled after the 6-day war".
Your point is correct, but still using one-sided language.
As I said, I agree with your point. Both sides are responsible for this.
So we should treat both sides the same. We should put all the sanctions on Israel that we have on Hezbollah, Iran, Russia and Hamas.
Until both sides agree to a 2-state solution. And none of them are allowed to trade with anyone until they agree.
The only group not coming to the table are Israel, who have calculated that the more land they steal with western military superiority, the better off they will be.
Every other single entity on earth has a 2-state solution as part of the solution, except for Israel.
At this point, I'd be fairly certain that most of the hostages are dead.
Put yourself in the shoes of somebody holding them. If you're caught with them, you'll be killed. They were short on food and water for hostages months ago. The war is over and Israel aren't holding back because of hostages. So what's the point in risking your life for no objective?
I think the only thing holding up a ceasefire is that many of these hostages are probably dead and buried under rubble along with their captors and nobody knows where they are or who had them because everyone's dead.
And I can't see the difference between giving them back alive rather than dead except for the humanity of killing them. But if you're a member of Hamas or PIJ, that's probably not a huge concern.
Israel have vowed to destroy Hamas even if they get the hostages back. So giving back a live hostage is only going to provide a witness to pinpoint your execution.
I don't think I've ever seen a hostage negotiation where the negotiator had promised to kill the captors even if they hand back the hostages (regardless of the recent announcement by Israel, we all know they're going to hunt and kill all the captors).
Not announcing who will rule Gaza after the war also reinforces this.
Everything Israel is doing is encouraging the murder of the hostages.
Put yourself in the shoes of somebody holding them. If you're caught with them, you'll be killed. They were short on food and water for hostages months ago. The war is over and Israel aren't holding back because of hostages. So what's the point in risking your life for no objective?
I think the only thing holding up a ceasefire is that many of these hostages are probably dead and buried under rubble along with their captors and nobody knows where they are or who had them because everyone's dead.
And I can't see the difference between giving them back alive rather than dead except for the humanity of killing them. But if you're a member of Hamas or PIJ, that's probably not a huge concern.
Israel have vowed to destroy Hamas even if they get the hostages back. So giving back a live hostage is only going to provide a witness to pinpoint your execution.
I don't think I've ever seen a hostage negotiation where the negotiator had promised to kill the captors even if they hand back the hostages (regardless of the recent announcement by Israel, we all know they're going to hunt and kill all the captors).
Not announcing who will rule Gaza after the war also reinforces this.
Everything Israel is doing is encouraging the murder of the hostages.
Negotiating for hostages is a touchy topic.
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I reported them to the AFP prior to Oct 7th for funding terrorism in the West Bank. AFP responded and said it wasn't their jurisdiction or something.
(I think the terrorism hotline only wants to hear about dark-skinned people)
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The fire in tel aviv was caused by the remnant of a missile. I dont think anyone was hurt. I'm not sure what the point is of reporting it like it was a massive attack but israelis would probably see this as a way to make out that they are responding to deadly force. I think israeli supporters are using different methods to make their point these days
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