Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack III

Which might they be?
Iran had one until the US overthrew it.
Egypt had one until the US overthrew it
Lebanon is a democracy.
And let's not forget that all the monarchies were initially established by the UK after they took the area from the Ottomans.

The west can't complain about a lack of democracy and bang on about Israel being the only democracy, when Israel was the only place that the West set up a democracy when they granted independence.

Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Saudi, Kuwait. All anti-democratic, established as monarchies by the UK/US.
 
israel is certainly a democracy. The gov't is doing exactly what the people want....although the narrative seems to narrow it down to one netty..
Worth noting that Israel are following a similar path to the US at the moment where one branch is trying to subdue another.

The Israeli war criminal govt is trying to change the system of the judiciary so that they can hire and fire judges. Essentially they're going to use it to neuter the judicial branch. And once the judicial branch is not independent of the Government, then it's not a different branch, it's just a department, and laws stop mattering. This is how Syria and Iraq became the way they are.

In the US there are three branches, and the President has only got around to starting to dismantle the judiciary. But once they do, there's nothing to stop them ignoring the Congressional branch as well, when it's taken over by the Dems in the mid-terms.

Then the C-in-C declares Congress enemies and has the FBI, CIA and military take the place over.

Anyone who thinks the FBI/CIA/Military wouldn't do this might want to look at who is leading those departments, and yesterday's hearings showed the contempt they had for congress and the existing laws.
 
Look who the Jerusalem Post found to pen an article about why Islamic people need to speak up more about Islamic extremism (in an article supposedly about anti-semitism?). This white Australian lady must know best because she was in Indonesia briefly as a child. No mention of what her dad does/did or why she was there.....

 
Look who the Jerusalem Post found to pen an article about why Islamic people need to speak up more about Islamic extremism (in an article supposedly about anti-semitism?). This white Australian lady must know best because she was in Indonesia briefly as a child. No mention of what her dad does/did or why she was there.....


we discussed erin previously in this thread. Her motives are similar to those of a thai bar girl who hooks up with a foreigner. The foreigner, in this case, uses her in the short term to impress his friends and competitors and to experience the joy of having a pretty thing say nice things about him, but he wont be taking her home to meet his mother.
 
Worth noting that Israel are following a similar path to the US at the moment where one branch is trying to subdue another.

The Israeli war criminal govt is trying to change the system of the judiciary so that they can hire and fire judges. Essentially they're going to use it to neuter the judicial branch. And once the judicial branch is not independent of the Government, then it's not a different branch, it's just a department, and laws stop mattering. This is how Syria and Iraq became the way they are.

In the US there are three branches, and the President has only got around to starting to dismantle the judiciary. But once they do, there's nothing to stop them ignoring the Congressional branch as well, when it's taken over by the Dems in the mid-terms.

Then the C-in-C declares Congress enemies and has the FBI, CIA and military take the place over.

Anyone who thinks the FBI/CIA/Military wouldn't do this might want to look at who is leading those departments, and yesterday's hearings showed the contempt they had for congress and the existing laws.

You need the judiciary on board to run an apartheid state...
 
owen jones preaches to the converted. I'm not a big fan and I find him rather annoying at times. Francesca is a bit like the boy who cries wolf...but its her role to make a record of every series of murders. She cant sit there and remain quiet.

However, overall, the cries of the opponents can only do so much. Trump has his MAGA base locked up into loving what israel is doing. Netty, of course, would probably love to kill every opponent but he's concentrating on the getting the support of the men with hats...the israeli public wanted to get the hostages back before returning to the murder and I think that they understand netty's motives for going sooner and hate him for it, but I think they will come around once the palestinians are all dead or scattered. Having said that, forgive and forget is not ingrained in their psyche...geez thats an understatement.

Can the starvation go to a level where the consciences of the general public are pricked and they take their eyes off MAFS? I doubt it. Maybe if the palestinian girls get into see-thru clothes and get some nice tatts....

I cant help think that a lot of people are going to have egg on their faces when we find out in the end that there's no paradise or promised land and all the other crap that is driving this murderfest.

Meanwhile there's 1.7m sudanese children on the cusp of starvation because of long-term instablility and no one gives a rats...
 
Iran had one until the US overthrew it.
Egypt had one until the US overthrew it
Lebanon is a democracy.
And let's not forget that all the monarchies were initially established by the UK after they took the area from the Ottomans.

The west can't complain about a lack of democracy and bang on about Israel being the only democracy, when Israel was the only place that the West set up a democracy when they granted independence.

Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Saudi, Kuwait. All anti-democratic, established as monarchies by the UK/US.

OK...?

So the Middle East is full of undemocratic countries because of the West, but the only country the West deem democratic was set up by the West? Righto.

How do the countries in Europe with monarchies manage to be democratic?
 
OK...?

So the Middle East is full of undemocratic countries because of the West, but the only country the West deem democratic was set up by the West? Righto.

How do the countries in Europe with monarchies manage to be democratic?
When they started becoming democratic, you'll remember they spent the best part of two centuries of Kings trying to stop it.

Which is precisely what happened to most Middle Eastern Democracies.

It's not democracy which the US interferes for, it's US interests. And US interests don't align with the people of the Middle East's interests (US extracts value, leaves little for the locals). So they just don't allow democracies any more except for ones which don't have any gas/oil that they want.
 
Israel and US: Hamas aren't negotiating in good faith.
Also Israel and US: Blow up Hamas spokesperson's tent and surrounding civilians.

 
Israel and US: Hamas aren't negotiating in good faith.
Also Israel and US: Blow up Hamas spokesperson's tent and surrounding civilians.


I was thinking about the US today and the stand your ground self-defence legislation that was introduced a few years back. I remember a story where a foreigner mistakenly knocked on the door of a person, who felt threatened and shot the foreigner dead....and escaped any punishment. This is the morality of many americans. Is it any wonder that maga people love israel?
 
When they started becoming democratic, you'll remember they spent the best part of two centuries of Kings trying to stop it.

Which is precisely what happened to most Middle Eastern Democracies.

It's not democracy which the US interferes for, it's US interests. And US interests don't align with the people of the Middle East's interests (US extracts value, leaves little for the locals). So they just don't allow democracies any more except for ones which don't have any gas/oil that they want.
It was the Brits who set them up to be undemocratic monarchies. It had worked well with the Indian Principalities - well for Britain that is..
 
When are the left going to work themselves through their shock and horror caused by the journalist being allowed into the war room briefing?

He's jewish. He left his home in america as a young man to go to israel and join the IDF, presumably to shoot children, although I must admit the IDF shot a lot less children in those days? At any rate, where is the security breach? The guy operating the chat app probably saw the name jeffrey goldberg and thought he was part of the team. A natural mistake.....everyone move along, please.
 
When are the left going to work themselves through their shock and horror caused by the journalist being allowed into the war room briefing?

He's jewish. He left his home in america as a young man to go to israel and join the IDF, presumably to shoot children, although I must admit the IDF shot a lot less children in those days? At any rate, where is the security breach? The guy operating the chat app probably saw the name jeffrey goldberg and thought he was part of the team. A natural mistake.....everyone move along, please.
The journo wasn't physically IN the war room - this was a text-based 'group chat' using an app called 'Signal'


and the journo got accidently added to the chat. It's like being CCd in a group email. Here's how it went down;

 

Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack III


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