Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack.

[Bloods86]

Thank you for the genuine response.

It is odd to me that Israel are more or less allowed to continue with the occupation with seemingly very little resistance from the rest of the world.

Nuclear power. Powerful friends. Plus, nations that would like to do something about Israel also benefit from the conflict because it's politically useful to have enemies to yell about.

 

[schneebly111]

There's enough evidence that the Israeli army have thrown out the rule book on protecting civilians.
Eg they used to warn by knocking on roofs before blowing up civilian houses and they haven't targeted ambulances before.

Israel targeting Ambulances was widespread in 2014:

Mounting evidence of deliberate attacks on Gaza health workers by Israeli army

An immediate investigation is needed into mounting evidence that the Israel Defense Forces launched apparently deliberate attacks against hospitals and health professionals in Gaza, which have left six medics dead, said Amnesty International as it released disturbing testimonies from doctors...

www.amnesty.org

 

[Froffinho]

There's enough evidence that the Israeli army have thrown out the rule book on protecting civilians.
Eg they used to warn by knocking on roofs before blowing up civilian houses and they haven't targeted ambulances before.

They still knock on roofs and if they do attack ambulances, its because they are being used to transport Hamas terrorists or machinery. This is common knowledge as Hamas have been known to use ambulances in that way in the past. But don't let truth get in the way of your story

 

[Present Not Past]

I've already covered this a few pages back.

Did you?
Well you'll probably need to go back and delete it all then.
Palestine is a country, recognised by the UN.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Toump Ass makes a good point, wiping out this current generation of Hamas will just lead to the formation of another nut job, ultra conservative, religiously backwards extremist group intent on wiping out the Jewish race.

There are some wars you can never win.

It was more about him saying relocate Palestine to Dubai.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

They still knock on roofs and if they do attack ambulances, its because they are being used to transport Hamas terrorists or machinery. This is common knowledge as Hamas have been known to use ambulances in that way in the past. But don't let truth get in the way of your story

Everyone who disagrees with you is anti-semetic according to you and Netanyahu is a prophet doing god's work. Gmab.

 

[Sinjin Smith]

Thank you for the genuine response.

It is odd to me that Israel are more or less allowed to continue with the occupation with seemingly very little resistance from the rest of the world.

No probs, I think you are raising decent points. The whole thing is a complex mess and I'm no expert on the history (been to Tel Aviv though, had a blast, great bars).

I can only look at the now and right now Hamas have pretty much signed a death warrant for hundreds of thousands of innocent Palestinians. The IDF special forces groups (and there are numerous ones under Mossad/Shin Bet) are some of the most skilled and ruthless campaigners going around. The mainstream media have already identified some of the Hamas pricks, imagine what Mossad have on them, not only are they ****ed but anyone associated with them is ****ed.

I thought Israel might show a bit of restraint and use a scalpel rather than a broad sword with this (i.e just going after the perpetrators of this atrocity) but no they've made it pretty clear they are going to raze Gaza into the dust, they have declared war and now you have numerous Palestinians with no where to go and unfortunately no other country will take them, not even their own muslim brotherhood brethren will even think about it.

I'm with you, house them up in some style at the Burj Khalifa, **** knows they deserve a break.

 

[Froffinho]

Everyone who disagrees with you is anti-semetic according to you and Netanyahu is a prophet doing god's work. Gmab.

Not sure where you got that champ. But keep on carrying on like a fool, its entertaining.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

they knock on roofs?

like an evil santa clause?

Yes, they knock and say 'sorry for inconvienience old chaps, but we are putting a rocket through your house in 5 minutes'.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Not sure where you got that champ. But keep on carrying on like a fool, its entertaining.

You called me anti-semetic earlier on didn't you? And refused to delete it.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Festival surviver talks.

 

[Froffinho]

You called me anti-semetic earlier on didn't you? And refused to delete it.

because your comment was anti-semitic.

Seems like your better off with your mates protesting at the opera house last night rather than shooting from the hip here

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

because your comment was anti-semitic.

Seems like your better off with your mates protesting at the opera house last night rather than shooting from the hip here

Im reporting, sick of your slurs

 

[Sinjin Smith]

It was more about him saying relocate Palestine to Dubai.

I find it odd that no other Islamic nation will not even consider taking them in, they've made it clear they don't want them living in their society. They'll happily chant in the streets shouting Allah Akbar and burning flags but when push comes to shove and their oppressed brothers and sisters need safe haven "yeah, nah get ****ed campaigners, you aint living here".

 

[Froffinho]

Im reporting, sick of your slurs

well done big fella. for someone whose view is so abhorrent and false, you have very thin skin.

 

[por_please_ya]

Reading Wikipedia. The illegal occupation of the West Bank just makes me so angry And the fact that whilst Jews have a 'Right of Return' to their homeland, do Palestinians get the same right of return? Nope.

Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This is an older map (from 2011) but I bet it's even worse now.

Spoiler: Map

View attachment Restricted_space_in_the_West_Bank,_Area_C.png

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

I find it odd that no other Islamic nation will not even consider taking them in, they've made it clear they don't want them living in their society. They'll happily chant in the streets shouting Allah Akbar and burning flags but when push comes to shove and their oppressed brothers and sisters need safe haven "yeah, nah get ****ed campaigners, you aint living here".

It's not plausible because Palestinians want to live in their holy sites.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

well done big fella. for someone whose view is so abhorrent and false, you have very thin skin.

I've said nothing abhorrent, you're way out of line.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Israeli military to inform 100 families their loved ones are hostages
The Times of Israel reports that officers are preparing to inform 100 families that their loved ones have been taken hostage by Hamas and are being held in Gaza.

Citing the Israeli Army radio, the Times of Israel reports, “The Israel Defence Force is sending out officers today to inform over 100 Israeli families that their relatives are being held in Gaza by Hamas”.

It adds that “UN Ambassador Gilad Erdan tells CNN that Israel estimates ‘that the number is between 100-150 people’.'”

Guardian

 

[Sinjin Smith]

It's not plausible because Palestinians want to live in their holy sites.

Those sites aren't going to be very liveable soon.

 

[Sir_Loin]

It was more about him saying relocate Palestine to Dubai.

Which is by definition ethnic cleansing.

But they are ok with that

 

[Toump Ass]

It was more about him saying relocate Palestine to Dubai.

So what's your solution then?

The west bank is smaller than most council areas in Victoria, and that's about all that Palestine is going to have once Hamas are obliterated.

 

[bzparkes]

Did you?
Well you'll probably need to go back and delete it all then.
Palestine is a country, recognised by the UN.

Wrong again.

PLO named themselves the 'State' of Palestine in '88 and again, in 2012, after the UN General Assembly approved to update their status to that of a non-member observer 'state'.

 

[Saint]

I find it odd that no other Islamic nation will not even consider taking them in, they've made it clear they don't want them living in their society. They'll happily chant in the streets shouting Allah Akbar and burning flags but when push comes to shove and their oppressed brothers and sisters need safe haven "yeah, nah get ****ed campaigners, you aint living here".

How is it odd that nations don't want to allow terrorists in?

It's pretty borderline racist to just assume that Arab nations should accept Palestinian refugees. Why doesn't Israel just assimilate people from Gaza? It's where they're from. Why not the UK?

Israel has traumatised generations of Gazans and complains Arab nations dont want to take on a population of mostly unemployed people with PTSD and a small portion with vengeance on their mind.

 

[bzparkes]

I find it odd that no other Islamic nation will not even consider taking them in, they've made it clear they don't want them living in their society. They'll happily chant in the streets shouting Allah Akbar and burning flags but when push comes to shove and their oppressed brothers and sisters need safe haven "yeah, nah get ****ed campaigners, you aint living here".

Because they hate them, that's why.

Other Arab states kicked them all out when they were displaced after the first war.

They conveniently 'support' them when they attack Israel though.