Roast I've lost my faith in Chris Davies

[JakeNeadeFan]

He’s hardly going to tell everyone he’s going cheap because we are hard against the cap and he acts like a dick off field is he!?

How in ****s name can we be hard against the cap? Who are we paying!

 

[tribey]

we are hard against the cap

- Rockliff $700,000
- Hartlett $500,000
- Motlop $500,000

Where’s the cap pressure there, until your Rozees, Duursmas and Butterses were all copping $400,000 raises?

 

[Zakk Wylde]

- Rockliff $700,000
- Hartlett $500,000
- Motlop $500,000

Where’s the cap pressure there, until your Rozees, Duursmas and Butterses were all copping $400,000 raises?

Absorbed after the COVID re-shuffle unfortunately. The war chest has vanished.

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

If our cap is that tight, it won’t be popular but Gray shouldn’t have been resigned and politely asked to retire at the end of the year. He’s slowed down and won’t be a part of our next premiership and neither will Boak.

Hope Motlop won’t be resigned either.

But if we made the decision we needed to off load a young player for peanuts because we are tight meanwhile making other signings that go against that, that’s poor.

 

[JUSTWORK]

Absorbed after the COVID re-shuffle unfortunately. The war chest has vanished.

We had enough money to put a huge offer in front of Merrett but all of a sudden don't have enough to keep Ladhams ? Unlikely.

 

[Port 2004]

We had enough money to put a huge offer in front of Merrett but all of a sudden don't have enough to keep Ladhams ? Unlikely.

No Zac is correct. Tredrea said as much last night on AA. Apparently most clubs are in the same boat and it is not only us.

 

[Zakk Wylde]

We had enough money to put a huge offer in front of Merrett but all of a sudden don't have enough to keep Ladhams ? Unlikely.

Or did we in the end ??

 

[Willsy10]

The king of spin & bs. Keep pissing in our ears and tell us it’s raining.


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[Contested Marx]

Ladhams is also from the SPP ‘naughty boy’ group.

Well if we had to get rid of one I'm glad it's PL

And hopefully there's a beneficial by-product to SPP from them not being near each other

 

[GremioPower]

On Davies defense, I would say that the difference between 12 and 16 is usually more significant than between 16 and 20, for instance, although both are four picks apart. Moreover, the third-round pick gives us extra points.

Are those gains worth of losing Ladhams? That’s the question. I don’t know the answer.

Personally, I wouldn’t have kept Lycett, to be honest; but he probably didn’t want to leave (and/or didn’t have anyone interested in him), while Ladhams did. We will never know the details, will we?

 

[Contested Marx]

Personally I don't see him as that a big loss but that's just my opinion dude

 

[Malibu#27]

Absorbed after the COVID re-shuffle unfortunately. The war chest has vanished.

I still don’t get how. Tredders said the same thing.

As far as I could tell, the club didn’t reduce payments to some players during the covid salary drops as a sign of good face.

If that was correct it seems to be horrendous list management to give up your competitive advantage

Edit - thinking about it, perhaps we put certain players payments backwards - but still paid full amount, rather than reduced amount. I’m that case I could understand some reduction - but not the whole lot.

 

[manureid]

Pathetic. But that is this club now, so makes perfect sense.

 

[all seeing eye]

Well if we had to get rid of one I'm glad it's PL

And hopefully there's a beneficial by-product to SPP from them not being near each other

More then naughty boys, when professional atheletes get pissed , miss pre season training due to it, turn up unfit and then have to get fit in the 2s for a fair part of the season. Resulting in a player being a sub instead of being a starting 22. Time to stop baby sitting theses guys, get ya act together or fk off. Over it.

 

[VineValerian]

Well if we had to get rid of one I'm glad it's PL

And hopefully there's a beneficial by-product to SPP from them not being near each other

Fan of Sam, but I think he's made his own issues, and plenty of them - without help from Ladhams either.
Would rather have shipped SPP out and kept Pistol.
Whatever.
Hard to gt enthusiastic any more.

 

[PAFCsince1870]

If the alternative is Sam Hayes demands a trade at the end of next year due to lack of opportunity then we made the right move.

There is some serious overrating of Ladhams on this board. It's not a great return but you won't win many trades when it's clear you want a player gone.

 

[Pt Augusta Power]

It’s not that big a deal really.

 

[Power Raid]

If our cap is that tight, it won’t be popular but Gray shouldn’t have been resigned and politely asked to retire at the end of the year. He’s slowed down and won’t be a part of our next premiership and neither will Boak.

Hope Motlop won’t be resigned either.

But if we made the decision we needed to off load a young player for peanuts because we are tight meanwhile making other signings that go against that, that’s poor.

100%

it is time we get real and build for a premiership rather than seek solid performances

 

[Power Raid]

If the alternative is Sam Hayes demands a trade at the end of next year due to lack of opportunity then we made the right move.

There is some serious overrating of Ladhams on this board. It's not a great return but you won't win many trades when it's clear you want a player gone.

I have concerns over Ladham's professeionalism but I question who has the highest ceiling between ladhams v lycett

lycett is a solid middle of the road ruck being 8th to 14th best in the comp. Ladhams is behind Lycett and like boak, motlop and gray; we are not winning a flag with lycett as our No1 ruck.

 

[Byrons Firen]

In answer to the thread title... I haven't.

We don't know why the Ladhams deal was done for the price. Ken could've said I want him gone, get it done no matter what, OR we've got

someone in mind for pick12. I was fuming last night but it's done now.

 

[tribey]

There is some serious overrating of Ladhams on this board. It's not a great return but you won't win many trades when it's clear you want a player gone.

But that’s kinda the point.

The AFL is rare in that a contracted player has to agree to a trade — we famously missed out on shipping Lobbe and his considerable cap hit to the Bulldogs for a first-rounder because he was in Vietnam(?) and was determined to stay at Alberton when they were able to get him on the phone — but you can swing too much the other way in making it clear they are on the block and should really accept the move when an offer comes in.

Making huge noises about Ladhams’ value in concert with “explore your options”, and then only walking away with a 4-position upgrade and a future third is a diabolical return for what should’ve been a very nice chip — whether the player is underrated, overrated or otherwise.

 

[TeeKray]

But that’s kinda the point.

The AFL is rare in that a contracted player has to agree to a trade — we famously missed out on shipping Lobbe and his considerable cap hit to the Bulldogs for a first-rounder because he was in Vietnam(?) and was determined to stay at Alberton when they were able to get him on the phone — but you can swing too much the other way in making it clear they are on the block and should really accept the move when an offer comes in.

Making huge noises about Ladhams’ value in concert with “explore your options”, and then only walking away with a 4-position upgrade and a future third is a diabolical return for what should’ve been a very nice chip — whether the player is underrated, overrated or otherwise.

Let's also be real and accept that it's very possible we pick the same player at 12 as we would've at 16 and that the pick upgrade counts for nothing and we've really just traded him for next year's pick 46 or something.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

But that’s kinda the point.

The AFL is rare in that a contracted player has to agree to a trade — we famously missed out on shipping Lobbe and his considerable cap hit to the Bulldogs for a first-rounder because he was in Vietnam(?) and was determined to stay at Alberton when they were able to get him on the phone — but you can swing too much the other way in making it clear they are on the block and should really accept the move when an offer comes in.

Making huge noises about Ladhams’ value in concert with “explore your options”, and then only walking away with a 4-position upgrade and a future third is a diabolical return for what should’ve been a very nice chip — whether the player is underrated, overrated or otherwise.

I'd love to know what Sydney offered last year.

 

[DaTBird187]

I'd love to know what Sydney offered last year.

 

[manureid]

Let's also be real and accept that it's very possible we pick the same player at 12 as we would've at 16 and that the pick upgrade counts for nothing and we've really just traded him for next year's pick 46 or something.

Pretty much this. The pick upgrade is neither here nor there. I am sure we will spin it that the player we pick was the one we wanted and he would not have been there at 16, but that would more than likely be BS. So a pick in the 40s for a first 22 ruck fwd with still untapped potential. Spin it how you like Port.