Jacinta Allan - Leading a zombie government

[AlwaysHawks15]

I dont think City Link did. Its hilarous you accept "running over budget" as the norm when its just CFMEU grifting.

Mate get out of your echo chamber into the real world.

 

[Sttew]

You have this obsession with debt and things being over budget and it's blinding your opinion.

Only when the debt impacts directly on the government’s ability to deliver core services, e.g., road maintenance, health, police, cancellation of other capital expenditure (e.g., Airport rail link),justice (we have a brand spanking new prison that is still empty after more than 18 months because the government cannot afford to run it).

 

[10571z]

Mate get out of your echo chamber into the real world.

I am in the real world. Its just hilarious you accept projects go over no matter what.. That's why they continue to go over because these companies know they can make millions more off government contracts. But then again the labour government accept is back as donations to get re-elected.

 

[peetoo]

Yes I agree having too much going on at once will cause issues. That is part of the reason they will lose not disagreeing with that But to carry on about any project being over budget like it's the end of the world shows me some people don't understand how it works but think they do.

I think they call it managing the pipeline. It’s a bit hot at the moment, but some projects will run down.

Funny how it’s always the rail projects not the road ones at fault. They all overrun

 

[Gralin]

The new "social cohesion" anti protest laws are pretty fashy

 

[Ice-Wolf]

I have no issue with CityLink (Kennett's major legacy) because it achieves results.

Yeah results for TransUrban.

 

[peetoo]

And once they fixed the bit between the 2 parts of citilink (Bracks govt)

 

[Todman]

 

[nut]

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Couldn’t you use playing cards?

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

I am in the real world. Its just hilarious you accept projects go over no matter what

It happens everywhere around the globe. It's not unique to Melbourne

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

And once they fixed the bit between the 2 parts of citilink (Bracks govt)

Just like the Ring Road, wasn't done correctly and they duplicated it

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

It happens everywhere around the globe. It's not unique to Melbourne

He wants that money in his own pocket screw the rest of the state.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

That's a different concept to net debt.

Net debt is what the state owes and when measured as a percentage of the state economy it started to rise sharply in 2017/2018. In 2016/2017 it represented 3.6%. By 2019/2020 it rose to 9,4%, and in 2024/2025 it is at 24.5%

The government is predicting a budget surplus by 2025/2026 but its net debt will still be rising.

That was always going to happen when your pumping money into infrastructure, the alternative was to continue to do nothing or incrementally go to work on the issues, Labor's issue ( And I haven't denied this) is too many fingers in too many pies. I honestly believe without obsessing over the SRL at the wrong time they could have won the next election but it's tipped things over the edge in terms of managing the money and now they are scrambling to save face. It's been arrogant and not the way to do it and they will get what they deserve at the election.

 

[Sttew]

Just like the Ring Road, wasn't done correctly and they duplicated it

And the South-East ‘Freeway’ complete with traffic lights… that was Labor

 

[The Punter]

Every major project in living memory anywhere runs over budget. Have you been living under a rock something?, It's the cost benefit to the community that matters and that's what I have an issue with regarding the SRL, I couldn't care less about projects running over budget as long as you get what your supposed to out of it. I have no issue with CityLink (Kennett's major legacy) because it achieves results. Pretty sure that ran over budget but nobody complains about it. You have this obsession with debt and things being over budget and it's blinding your opinion.

Does it matter how much a project runs over budget?

 

[Saint]

The new "social cohesion" anti protest laws are pretty fashy

Managed to throw using ropes and chains at protests into the mix, to water down the effectiveness of protest.

Not sure I've seen that used in proximity to synagogues, mosques or in the Pro-Palestine protests, but they've chucked it in there anyway.

 

[Gralin]

Managed to throw using ropes and chains at protests into the mix, to water down the effectiveness of protest.

Not sure I've seen that used in proximity to synagogues, mosques or in the Pro-Palestine protests, but they've chucked it in there anyway.

its literally anti protest legislation

the synagogue is the excuse to crack down on the protesting that the cops and government want to crack down on anyway

 

[peetoo]

Maybe we can protest the anti protest legislation

 

[Gralin]

Great way to stop people protesting in the CBD in general it seems

 

[Satan]

And the same thing is happening in every state with regards to net debt. Except WA who were able to island themselves during the pandemic.

Some of us are still pisssed off

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Great way to stop people protesting in the CBD in general it seems

Maybe it's time activists figure out other means of getting thier message across and convincing people thier cause is worthwhile.

 

[Gralin]

Maybe it's time activists figure out other means of getting thier message across and convincing people thier cause is worthwhile.

They could use this legislation to stop striking workers March.

Say nurses wanted to gather on the steps of parliament house to call for more funding for public hospitals, because visibility and putting pressure on politicians goes hand in hand.

This legislation could be used to stop that action.

It amazes me how happily ignorant people are about what protesting is about and why governments are happily legislating against it.

How much people think it won't impact them in the future.

 

[eddiesmith]

They could use this legislation to stop striking workers March.

Say nurses wanted to gather on the steps of parliament house to call for more funding for public hospitals, because visibility and putting pressure on politicians goes hand in hand.

This legislation could be used to stop that action.

It amazes me how happily ignorant people are about what protesting is about and why governments are happily legislating against it.

How much people think it won't impact them in the future.

Parliament House doesn’t appear in the exclusion zones on that post you put up.

But FRV No1 station is, that’s gold!!!

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

Does it matter how much a project runs over budget?

Isn't that what I'm arguing?

 

[hawkman]

Unusual for the treasurer to come from the upper house