Traded Jack Bowes [Traded to Geelong with #7 for F3]

[CatToTheFuture]

Geelong should have to wear the $800k salary for the rest of its duration

They do. That's the point

 

[adammania9]

If that's how contracts worked, then yes, sure. Evidently, that's not how they work, which is why we're opting to stretch it out for a longer duration for less.

Essentially the same as cutting a player in the NBA and stretching their contract out rather than eating the deal and having it off the books quicker.

If a club is going to take on a salary dump and receive a top draft pick for their troubles, they should have to wear the salary dump in their TPP. It's a rort that a club should benefit so massively via trade and not have to actually deal with the dump at all.

 

[2006_Eagles]

Because it's not their decision. Why would Bowes agree to take less pay when he's already gone through the lean years on a back-ended deal? He owes them nothing, they owe him $1.6mil. And if they no longer want to pay him that, why would he do them a favour?

Instead he gets to go play for the Premiers and keep his money.

Play for the Cats? He can't even get a spot in GC's 22

 

[adammania9]

They do. That's the point

All reports are leaning to Geelong "smoothing out" the deal over more years, such as $500k a year for 4 years. This is a lot easier to manage than $800k over two.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

If a club is going to take on a salary dump and receive a top draft pick for their troubles, they should have to wear the salary dump in their TPP. It's a rort that a club should benefit so massively via trade and not have to actually deal with the dump at all.

Sounds like a good idea for a rule but it's a bit late for this trade period

 

[CatToTheFuture]

All reports are leaning to Geelong "smoothing out" the deal over more years, such as $500k a year for 4 years. This is a lot easier to manage than $800k over two.

They're still paying it

 

[Hamsatma]

Despite the claims, noone would have taken him on for $400k a year let alone $800k a year without the pick 7.

GCS should give pick 7 to Geelong but demand pick 18 and their future 1st.

Probably not that much but for the life of me I can't understand why they're not at least getting a late first. Surely the fact that half of Melbourne was falling over themselves trying to secure the deal should show that Bowes + 7 for a nothing pick is way too good of a deal

 

[adammania9]

They're still paying it

It's hardly a salary dump then, is it? They're getting a middling player on a middling salary for a few years, and a cool Pick 7 for their troubles

 

[Mantastic]

Play for the Cats? He can't even get a spot in GC's 22

We make everyone look good

 

[Art Vandelay_]

The fact that Bowes isn't the main play, but is only being targeted for the pick that comes with him makes even a greater mockery of it all.

Who says he isn't?

SOS seems to have mail that contradicts this.

“My information that I’ve received is that the Cats had genuine interest in Bowes throughout the year, they were the first to approach his management group,” he told AFL Trade Radio’s The Late Trade upon learning of Bowes’ intentions.

“So you can probably understand why it wasn’t just about the pick, and that would come into the psyche of the player, thinking, ‘are they just coming after me for the pick involved?’

“I think the Cats have got genuine interest in the player and from afar, I think he’s made the right call.”

 

[2006_Eagles]

We make everyone look good

Except for the Suns

 

[DanA]

Selwood must have been on pretty decent coin, it can’t be that big a stretch to replace him with Bowes.

And a couple of guys not getting regular games aren’t going to earn much more than our retirees (Dahl and Higgins). We might have to shuffle things around a bit but half our list is over 30, we can afford to back end three young players knowing in 2-3 years we’ll have space.

 

[adammania9]

Who says he isn't?

SOS seems to have mail that contradicts this.

Fair enough if this is accurate.

Nevertheless, I don't agree with the nature of the trade

So why if Geelong has genuine long-term interest in Jack Bowes do GC need to throw them pick 7 just to take him

 

[Mantastic]

It's hardly a salary dump then, is it? They're getting a middling player on a middling salary for a few years, and a cool Pick 7 for their troubles

Gold Coast are dumping the salary. That's why it's called that and they need to pay or nodoby will take it. What Geelong then does with it, is between club and player. And good clubs, are able to do good things, that bad clubs can't.

 

[Mantastic]

Except for the Suns

We're not miracle workers

 

[Strange Cat]

Fair enough if this is accurate.

Nevertheless, I don't agree with the nature of the trade

Because you’re a sook and unable to understand how a salary dump or player contracts actually works

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Probably not that much but for the life of me I can't understand why they're not at least getting a late first. Surely the fact that half of Melbourne was falling over themselves trying to secure the deal should show that Bowes + 7 for a nothing pick is way too good of a deal

They may do so. The trade isn't finalised yet

 

[eastfreo75]

Equalisation at work. Afl really needs to look into giving teams extra salary cap to keep non home grown talent

Players should get a 20% re-signing bonus for the club that drafted them. That 20% is outside the cap.

 

[adammania9]

Gold Coast are dumping the salary. That's why it's called that and they need to pay or nodoby will take it. What Geelong then does with it, is between club and player. And good clubs, are able to do good things, that bad clubs can't.

Easy to have that stance when your club is the one benefitting from it. It's a rort

 

[Strange Cat]

Selwood must have been on pretty decent coin, it can’t be that big a stretch to replace him with Bowes.

And a couple of guys not getting regular games aren’t going to earn much more than our retirees (Dahl and Higgins). We might have to shuffle things around a bit but half our list is over 30, we can afford to back end three young players knowing in 2-3 years we’ll have space.

Dahl and Higgins = $500 k each

Selwood= $500 k or more

It isn’t hard to see where the money is tbh

 

[eastfreo75]

Selwood must have been on pretty decent coin, it can’t be that big a stretch to replace him with Bowes.

And a couple of guys not getting regular games aren’t going to earn much more than our retirees (Dahl and Higgins). We might have to shuffle things around a bit but half our list is over 30, we can afford to back end three young players knowing in 2-3 years we’ll have space.

I thought you guys was saying Selwood took a haircut for the club?

 

[thecatattack]

If a club is going to take on a salary dump and receive a top draft pick for their troubles, they should have to wear the salary dump in their TPP. It's a rort that a club should benefit so massively via trade and not have to actually deal with the dump at all.

Bowes is about to be 25 and played 5 games this season.

If he turns out to be a spud for us, I'd rather we eat the 1.6mil and he is off the books in 2 seasons rather than still be paying him 400k when he's 29.

You're acting like there are 0 risks in giving him 4yrs/400k.

 

[Strange Cat]

I thought you guys was saying Selwood took a haircut for the club?

He would be borderline $800- $900 on the open market

Rumoured to be around the $500k or a little bit more..could had been on. Around $300 like Hawkins in the last year or two who knows

Even Chris Scott forgo his 2020 salary that year to help the club maintain the staff durring that period so it’s not just the players it’s the actual values of the club

 

[2006_Eagles]

We make everyone look good

This trade is all about pick 7, let's not kid ourselves here

 

[HairyO]

Who says he isn't?

SOS seems to have mail that contradicts this.

Very clever of them to know that a guy with 2 years of contract on back ended money was going to be gettable this year. Particularly when he is a QLD born player.

Visionary almost.