News Jack Darling resumes with WCE

[Neale4brownlow]

Is it likely that a marriage or partnership can survive if one partner is anti vax and the other pro? Does one cave in in order to save the relationship? Does anyone have examples of this? Partners seem to get by with different religious views. Politics as well. You would think the QAnon rabbit hole would kill off a marriage. I do wonder where JDs situation is.


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I would think it's a pretty rare scenario.

We're talking chalk and cheese in mindsets. And not many people that are opposite in their thinking are attracted to each other (or stay together).

Relationships are built on support/common ground at the end of the day.

 

[Neale4brownlow]

What work can he do not being vaccinated?

Flipping burgers at some back street grease pit who don't follow the rules?

You have to wonder how much money people will be prepared to lose before they just pull their heads in and get the jab?

I don't get what these people are doing. For a footballer I can sort of understand, but then perhaps not. Jack is making really good money, but there a footy career is fleeting and can be over as soon as it starts. Missing 1 year of that sort of income is a big deal.

But especially for us normal folk on normal wages, I'm not sure how people get so passionate about something like this that they'd be prepared to throw away their careers/lively hood and likely their social surroundings as well.

What is the long term play here? Hope the mandate drops and they can go on with their lives? It'll probably never drop... covid is likely here to stay and becomes a mandated jab at a certain age for the entire population.

 

[bzparkes]

In short Novavax is like a standard flu-jab and is protein based (i.e. it gives you a measured quantity of a 'dead/deactivated' version of the virus) and your body produces antibodies on that basis. Delivery method has been used for decades and side effects from all reports are negligible.

mRNA vaccines (Pfizer/Moderna) use a spike protein that causes your body to 'produce' the virus which is why some people get sicker than others (some people produce a lot more of the virus than others and the quantity produced differs from person to person). Delivery method quite new, so long term whilst believed to be safe some people are hesitant.

Viral Vector vaccines (Astra Zenica) are somewhere in the middle.

Cheers for the explanation.

Still waiting to see what excuse they'll come up with not to take it though

 

[bzparkes]

Is it likely that a marriage or partnership can survive if one partner is anti vax and the other pro? Does one cave in in order to save the relationship? Does anyone have examples of this? Partners seem to get by with different religious views. Politics as well. You would think the QAnon rabbit hole would kill off a marriage. I do wonder where JDs situation is.


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Yeah, I couldn't do it. Thankfully my wife has brains.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

The lucrative Pete Evans/Belle Gibson circuit awaits Jack.

 

[MIKE85]

Im guessing they hope that someone will press the button in a few years time, all of us that have had the vax will instantly collapse and die, and they will inherit the earth.

 

[Neale4brownlow]

Cheers for the explanation.

Still waiting to see what excuse they'll come up with not to take it though

I think "pro choice" is the only one left.

If you actually go back and list the excuse in a chronological its a pretty fun read.

I can't really remember them all but as a quick summary:

• Covid is a hoax;
• Covid isn't a problem for us;
• Covid isn't life threatening;
• The vaccine was made too quick / there is no data / the vaccine doesn't do anything / the vaccine gives you autism;
• MRNA ERHMERGHERD.
• Pro Choice.

I probably missed some.

 

[Obeanie1]

I don't get what these people are doing. For a footballer I can sort of understand, but then perhaps not. Jack is making really good money, but there a footy career is fleeting and can be over as soon as it starts. Missing 1 year of that sort of income is a big deal.

But especially for us normal folk on normal wages, I'm not sure how people get so passionate about something like this that they'd be prepared to throw away their careers/lively hood and likely their social surroundings as well.

What is the long term play here? Hope the mandate drops and they can go on with their lives? It'll probably never drop... covid is likely here to stay and becomes a mandated jab at a certain age for the entire population.

And how long can normal people hold out?

Don't see the bank manager being too sympathetic.

 

[ConcreteWaters]

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is a bit of a tool, pretty much agree with what he's saying about Darling.
Let us know what you really think JD. If you're really anti-vax, thanks for your service.

 

[shooshka]

Although Kane Cornes is a bit of a tool, pretty much agree with what he's saying about Darling.
Let us know what you really think JD. If you're really anti-vax, thanks for your service.

I assume that he's had at least some conversation around this with the club. It is interesting that their statements are so different (although the club is probably trying to stay on the right side of the AFL... and JD is obviously trying to paint a picture of his choice in a certain way).

CEY at Brisbane was immediately put on the inactive list, Jones at Carlton retired. But Anderson (Nth) and JD are both still on primary playing lists.

It does indicate a more likely path is Novovax than anti vax - as there is no 'risk' to putting them on inactive straight away if they aren't making vax plans in the near future.

 

[FKASC]

In short Novavax is like a standard flu-jab and is protein based (i.e. it gives you a measured quantity of a 'dead/deactivated' version of the virus) and your body produces antibodies on that basis. Delivery method has been used for decades and side effects from all reports are negligible.

mRNA vaccines (Pfizer/Moderna) use a spike protein that causes your body to 'produce' the virus which is why some people get sicker than others (some people produce a lot more of the virus than others and the quantity produced differs from person to person). Delivery method quite new, so long term whilst believed to be safe some people are hesitant.

Viral Vector vaccines (Astra Zenica) are somewhere in the middle.

Not 100% accurate re the mRNA description.

I’m not an expert, but I believe mRNA vaccines work by introducing messenger RNA into your body, which is effectively a code that makes your cells generate the same protein that is found on the outside of the covid virus (the spike protein).

Because that particular protein is foreign to you, your immune system creates antibodies to fight it off once your cells have started generating it. When those same spike proteins next enter your system, the antibodies fight it off which stops the coronavirus latching onto your cells.

It doesn’t tell your body to produce the virus, only one unique building block of the virus.

Viral vectors are also quite new technology and do a similar thing but instead of injecting the mRNA itself, it injects a harmless (different type of) virus which has been modified and engineered to infect and then tell our cells to create the spike protein.

Part of that process is your cells sending mRNA to the parts that generate the protein. So not that different except it’s using another virus instead of the more direct route of using the mRNA itself.

Regardless, millions of people around the world would have died if we rejected these technologies and all waited for novovax. The more options the merrier though

 

[JackOutback]

Imagine having an entire medical department at your disposal and still choosing to listen to your bimbo wife. That said, Darling never struck me as clever himself. Get the jab, you muppet.

 

[Rowan18]

I don't get what these people are doing. For a footballer I can sort of understand, but then perhaps not. Jack is making really good money, but there a footy career is fleeting and can be over as soon as it starts. Missing 1 year of that sort of income is a big deal.

But especially for us normal folk on normal wages, I'm not sure how people get so passionate about something like this that they'd be prepared to throw away their careers/lively hood and likely their social surroundings as well.

What is the long term play here? Hope the mandate drops and they can go on with their lives? It'll probably never drop... covid is likely here to stay and becomes a mandated jab at a certain age for the entire population.

I know a few of them and I dont think they really thought about the longer consequences. I think a lot of them genuinely believed their protest or legal challenges would work.

Now that it is apparent that it won't, they are slowly caving in and getting the vaccine. Novavax will accelerate this - it provides them a way forward without backing down. They could even convince themselves they've won: "I held out against the dodgy vaccines and now I get the safe one" etc

 

[Neale4brownlow]

And how long can normal people hold out?

Don't see the bank manager being too sympathetic.

"Cashies" is the usual thing I get told (I work in the civil sector and have had a few carpenters/boilermakers disappear on me not prepared to get the jab).

Crazy way to live though trying to go from cashie to cashie.

I imagine the tax man will catch up with them pretty quick when suddenly their income is 0.

 

[THE A5]

X Ellis reckons he was likely just waiting for Novavax. They were trying to work out when he'd be able to return to train/play based on double jab.

Also said his wife's family are all quite against vaccinations. Courtney's brother is a chiro or something and he's stopped that line of work due to the mandates and is now looking for other work.

This just further establish’s my view that chiro’s are the snake oil salesman of the medical world

 

[DanWCE]

This just further establish’s my view that chiro’s are the snake oil salesman of the medical world

You know I'm starting to think that myself after stopping my chiro appointments and then my headaches going away.

 

[Dazzler9]

Chiro is a grift.

 

[FKASC]

They can really help loosen up a locked up bit of your back/neck, but everything else they claim is kinda nonsense.

 

[Dazzler9]

This just further establish’s my view that chiro’s are the snake oil salesman of the medical world

Chiro is alternative medicine. The medical establishment doesn't take it seriously.

 

[Neale4brownlow]

Im guessing they hope that someone will press the button in a few years time, all of us that have had the vax will instantly collapse and die, and they will inherit the earth.

But then who would they get to disagree with and fight the good fight!?! Hold the line for us all!

 

[THE A5]

You know I'm starting to think that myself after stopping my chiro appointments and then my headaches going away.

Yep same thing happened to me. Saw one with back pain but after seeing them I couldn’t walk. Thing improved by 90% after I stopped seeing them.

 

[THE A5]

Chiro is alternative medicine. The medical establishment doesn't take it seriously.

Yep there’s a reason why Dr encourage physio’s and not chiros.

They can really help loosen up a locked up bit of your back/neck, but everything else they claim is kinda nonsense.

Just go see a physio instead

 

[darksquare]

Chiro is alternative medicine. The medical establishment doesn't take it seriously.

These days, 70% of what chiropractors do is the same as what physiotherapists do. But the remaining 30% is pseudoscience, and if I wanted the other 70% I'd just go to a physio anyway.

 

[darksquare]

what Vishy said!

 

[Rowan18]

Been seeing a chiro for 17 years and it has worked wonders. I also see a physio but as much as both tell me what they do will replace the other, neither has been able to do it.

One thing to watch with Chiro is that some fall down the alternative medicine hole. I'd avoid those ones. The guy I see studied in the US (where it is part of their medical association) and has a doctorate.

Like anything, listen to your body. If it isn't getting results, look for something else.