News Jack Darling resumes with WCE

[Ambrose Burnside]

A bloke rang up the rumor report on 92 and mentioned Darling sent a scathing letter to Nizzy on how he runs the company.

Sounds like pretty much everyone on the Freo board who seem to think he is the Antichrist.

 

[BeornJ]

Anti vaxxe4 Freo fans deciding whether to embrace Darling as an Anti-Vaxxer hero.

 

[matthew_s]

Anti vaxxe4 Freo fans deciding whether to embrace Darling as an Anti-Vaxxer hero.

Pretty much every anti-vax ******** I have the displeasure of knowing lives down freo way. A couple even brag about the sense of community they have down there that people from other suburbs wouldnt understand (I kid you not!)

Not many have anything to do with AFL though.

 

[garlic munchers]

Pretty much every anti-vax fu****** I have the displeasure of knowing lives down freo way. A couple even brag about the sense of community they have down there that people from other suburbs wouldnt understand (I kid you not!)

Not many have anything to do with AFL though.

They certainly have a what’s yours is mine sense of community.

Just ask any shopkeeper down that way.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

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- Gone
CEY - Gone
Darling - Still there

It's not much but going to grasp this straw like a dying man until either he takes the Novovax, or he's cut.

Well there's a slight difference in quality between Darling and the other two (acknowledging Liam Jones is a a decent player, but old, and blues have replacements).

 

[shooshka]

Well there's a slight difference in quality between Darling and the other two (acknowledging Liam Jones is a a decent player, but old, and blues have replacements).

True, but whilst Jones has retired, CEY is just on the inactive list. So Brisbane retain him as a player - but can't select him and he's on a reduced wage of course.

We can do the same with Darling, and TBH if he has indicated he will never get vaccinated and is unlikely to get an exemption then we should do that straight away. But at this stage it seems that there must be at least some conversations about a legitimate path forward to return to the group.

I hope, for the sake of the club, he is on the minimum pay currently (so 25% of his wage), as if it is true that we have a tight salary cap then even a few weeks of savings would be significant. I'd estimate it would be $7500 per week or more in savings, and all of that gives us a small amount of flexibility to bring payments forward for other players (Gov probably first - seeing as he was willing to delay payments to allow us to squeeze players into the cap).

 

[Neale4brownlow]

True, but whilst Jones has retired, CEY is just on the inactive list. So Brisbane retain him as a player - but can't select him and he's on a reduced wage of course.

We can do the same with Darling, and TBH if he has indicated he will never get vaccinated and is unlikely to get an exemption then we should do that straight away. But at this stage it seems that there must be at least some conversations about a legitimate path forward to return to the group.

I hope, for the sake of the club, he is on the minimum pay currently (so 25% of his wage), as if it is true that we have a tight salary cap then even a few weeks of savings would be significant. I'd estimate it would be $7500 per week or more in savings, and all of that gives us a small amount of flexibility to bring payments forward for other players (Gov probably first - seeing as he was willing to delay payments to allow us to squeeze players into the cap).

I could be wrong but I believe its 25% of base salary. not the individuals wage. So he'd be 25% of a first year salary atm? So $15-25k for the year?
Basically just a placeholder in hopes he returns, but to be delisted as soon as it's clear it's a lost cause.

The club probably dont want to officially delist him until its certain he's not going to have a change of heart - then sign up to another club.

 

[Chris_6678]

True, but whilst Jones has retired, CEY is just on the inactive list. So Brisbane retain him as a player - but can't select him and he's on a reduced wage of course.

We can do the same with Darling, and TBH if he has indicated he will never get vaccinated and is unlikely to get an exemption then we should do that straight away. But at this stage it seems that there must be at least some conversations about a legitimate path forward to return to the group.

I hope, for the sake of the club, he is on the minimum pay currently (so 25% of his wage), as if it is true that we have a tight salary cap then even a few weeks of savings would be significant. I'd estimate it would be $7500 per week or more in savings, and all of that gives us a small amount of flexibility to bring payments forward for other players (Gov probably first - seeing as he was willing to delay payments to allow us to squeeze players into the cap).

CEY has retired too.

 

[shooshka]

CEY has retired too.

Ah, wasn't aware of that. Jed Anderson at Nth is another yet to vax but yet to retire or be made inactive.

 

[shooshka]

I could be wrong but I believe its 25% of base salary. not the individuals wage. So he'd be 25% of a first year salary atm? So $15-25k for the year?
Basically just a placeholder in hopes he returns, but to be delisted as soon as it's clear it's a lost cause.

The club probably dont want to officially delist him until its certain he's not going to have a change of heart - then sign up to another club.

I hope the club has definitely done that then. The saving would be upwards of $10k per week in salary cap.

Nothing against Jack, and I hope he comes back as soon as possible (either through vaccination or exemption) - but we'd literally be throwing away money not taking that option. (it would be a bit hypocritical if he gets annoyed about the club cutting his wage and doing the wrong thing by him, after he has failed to get his house in order regarding the vax/exemption for a few months).

 

[Neale4brownlow]

I hope the club has definitely done that then. The saving would be upwards of $10k per week in salary cap.

Nothing against Jack, and I hope he comes back as soon as possible (either through vaccination or exemption) - but we'd literally be throwing away money not taking that option. (it would be a bit hypocritical if he gets annoyed about the club cutting his wage and doing the wrong thing by him, after he has failed to get his house in order regarding the vax/exemption for a few months).

It's all guesswork but I would think the club has 100% done this and already paying him the minimum.

And Darling has put out his lawyer statement saying it's due to a workplace injury, likely because he intends to sue for his full wage/contract payout.

It will be interesting to see how it shakes out. Rumours would suggest Jack is burning alot of bridges so I fail to see a cruisey road back for him even if he woke up today and decided to get jabbed?

 

[JackOutback]

Nothing against Jack

Well, I have one thing against him...he's an ignorant muppet doing the wrong thing by his community and his team.

 

[Rowan18]

I could be wrong but I believe its 25% of base salary. not the individuals wage. So he'd be 25% of a first year salary atm? So $15-25k for the year?
Basically just a placeholder in hopes he returns, but to be delisted as soon as it's clear it's a lost cause.

The club probably dont want to officially delist him until its certain he's not going to have a change of heart - then sign up to another club.

I interpreted it as the base salary in their contract. Players get match payments on top of that and other inducements specific to individuals.

 

[Agent93]

I interpreted it as the base salary in their contract. Players get match payments on top of that and other inducements specific to individuals.

AFL has the weirdest contract structure.

 

[06Premiers]

A bloke rang up the rumor report on 92 and mentioned Darling sent a scathing letter to Nizzy on how he runs the company.

LOL good luck with that one Darling..

So the workplace injury is from Nizzy beating the shit out of him in retaliation?

 

[Malifice]

Pretty much every anti-vax fu****** I have the displeasure of knowing lives down freo way.

It's ground zero for sure.

All the blazing swan, crystal, paleo, new age, mindfulness, yoga life coach types (so half of the chicks Fremantle).

Bumble and Tinder are full of them now as well. Every second woman on Bumble is an anti-vaxxer. 'Life coach' or 'Wellness advocate' means 'Hardcore antivaxxer'.

At least it's easier to vet out the crazies in advance of the first date now.

What a time to be alive.

 

[Priddis Is Done]

Well, I have one thing against him...he's an ignorant muppet doing the wrong thing by his community and his team.

Rest of the world us opening up, no covid passports, lockdowns and mandatory vax.

Maybe he's not that dumb and riding it out? And if he gets double vaxxed...4% effectiveness as McGone stated.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Maybe he's not that dumb

No, he's dumb.

 

[FXD_]

I interpreted it as the base salary in their contract. Players get match payments on top of that and other inducements specific to individuals.

The wording is: "25% of the CBA minimum base salary" so it's definitely 25% of the AFL minimum wage (around $100k), so $25k.

 

[Malifice]

Rest of the world us opening up, no covid passports, lockdowns and mandatory vax.

Maybe he's not that dumb and riding it out? And if he gets double vaxxed...4% effectiveness as McGone stated.

Mate its been pointed out to you that this is not true, and you're hearing what you want to hear.

While some anti-vax social media users are quick to point to the fact that the majority of Australians dying or in intensive care units with COVID-19 have been vaccinated, sharing such statistics without context can paint a misleading picture of vaccine efficacy.

In NSW, 267,381 double-dosed people were reported to have contracted COVID-19 in NSW between November 26 and January 8.

Of those cases, 1 per cent required hospitalisation, 0.1 per cent required intensive care and 0.03 per cent of people died (that is, one person in almost 4,000 cases of the virus).

Of the 3,552 unvaccinated people who contracted COVID-19 over the same period, 8.9 per cent were hospitalised, 1.5 per cent landed in ICUs and 0.6 per cent died (or one person for every 169 cases).

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-28/coronacheck-steve-leary-lachlan-covid-19/100784704

• 1 percent hospitalization (vaxxed) vs 8.9 percent hospitalized (unvaxxed)
• 0.1 percent wound up in ICU (vaxxed) vs 1.5 percent in ICU (unvaxxed)
• 0.03 percent died (vaxxed) vs 1.5 percent died (unvaxxed).

Maybe taking the vaccine isn't worth that massive amount of increased protection from hospitalization, ICU admittance and death for you, and please, feel free to make that 'choice' if you want to, but you're a selfish idiot if that's the choice you make.

If everyone did what Darling (and our own Jones) did, our hospitals would be overflowing, and deaths would be through the roof.

Considering 50 million vaccine doses have now been administered for bugger all adverse reactions (99.9 percent of which were minimal) there is literally no good reason why any sensible person would refuse it.

 

[MIKE85]

Why do people keep quoting the 4% effective?? It’s 4% effective (double dose) at stopping infection, it’s over 70% effective at reducing severe illness, and over 90% at 3 doses. 3 doses increases to 70% effective i. Stopping infection. So claiming it’s 4% effective is just deliberately leaving out important aspects of that number and twisting it for your argument, which seems like what every anti vax / open the borders crew do.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

He's getting that figure (and McGowan stating it) from here:

McGowan said the decision was based on research showing that people who received a third dose of vaccine were 64% protected against infection compared with just 4% protection when inoculated twice. He did not cite the source of the research.

Western Australia suspends border reopening indefinitely amid Omicron spread

State had been due to open up to double-jabbed international and interstate travellers on 5 February

www.theguardian.com

 

[sammywce]

Apparently, Jack backflipped on getting vaccinated and completely blindsided the club. He's now "hiding behind mental health".

He's also refused treatment from the club in the past and preferred to take a holistic approach.

The source is a close friend of a current eagles medical team employee so take it for what you like.

I had hoped he was planning on Novovax but I don't see that happening anymore.

 

[MIKE85]

Yeah I know where it came from, but I think certain people are trying to use that 4% number, and leave out the “protection from infection” and try and say that the vaccine is only 4% effective, which is deliberately misleading. All most people worry about is, how effective is the vaccine from keeping me from getting really sick? And the it’s clearly proven that it will help keep people out of hospital and dying. The anti vax crew use it to try and spread misinformation

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Yeah I know where it came from, but I think certain people are trying to use that 4% number, and leave out the “protection from infection” and try and say that the vaccine is only 4% effective, which is deliberately misleading. All most people worry about is, how effective is the vaccine from keeping me from getting really sick? And the it’s clearly proven that it will help keep people out of hospital and dying. The anti vax crew use it to try and spread misinformation

Oh 100%. It's deliberately misleading.