News Jack Darling resumes with WCE

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Vaccination policy from the AFL website... we can put him on the inactive list and only have to pay him 25% of the AFL minimum base salary.


"For Players who do not comply with the Policy and do not have an approved medical exemption, from the date at which a Player is no longer able to perform their contracted services, their Clubs can:

  • Transfer the Player to the inactive player list (meaning the Player can be replaced) and pay the Player 25% of (for AFLW) their contracted salary or (for AFL) the CBA minimum base salary
  • Keep the Player on their playing list (meaning the Player cannot be replaced) and pay the Player not less than 25% of (for AFLW) their contracted salary or (for AFL) 25% of the CBA minimum base salary
  • Terminate the Player’s playing contract with the agreement of the Player
  • Exercise any rights the Club may have at law to terminate the Player’s playing contract, but such rights are not to be exercised prior to 18 May 2022."
 
If he is transferred to the inactive list, he receives the CBA base salary, eg the AFL minimum. The 25% rule is for AFLW only.
The way it reads on the AFL site, it would be 25% of the CBA minimum salary, grammatically anyway. But it wouldn't surprise me if their grammar is inaccurate... given the usual quality of their journalism.

  • Transfer the Player to the inactive player list (meaning the Player can be replaced) and pay the Player 25% of (for AFLW) their contracted salary or (for AFL) the CBA minimum base salary
 
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Wasn't the rumour that he was wating for Novavax? If so, he might have to wait a couple of weeks for supply, but could be back training shortly.

It's weird that he would do most of a preseason only to refuse all vaccination and retire.
Also if he wasn't waiting for the novavax why would he be training away from the group .

Rumours have been around for a while that the government has held up approving novavax because they had big stores of pfizer that they had paid for and needed to use up .

Our first game isn't for 8 weeks he still has time .

Failing that maybe he will visit some massage parlours
 
People who are against vaccines are pretty chill though, and would never sacrifice their livelihoods or organise week-long protests about it.
Agree Muppets on both sided

I do find it funny people getting angry at guys like Novak and JD . They are probably in the top 0.1% fittest healthiest people in the world who don't even take pain killers or eat sugar but we want them to get a trial vaccine with no long term data for a disease that would barely give them a sniffle.

Novak takes cold showers and goes in ice baths to naturally boost his immune health like that crazy Wim Hof guy .
 
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So we're probably hubbing in the early rounds of the year due to the borders, and now Jack's been undertaking too much "independent research" to bother doing the right thing by the club and his teammates.

Cool. Cool, cool, cool. Cool.

Cant wait for Round 1 so the mids can start dropping floaters on Kennedy's head all day while he gets triple-teamed by the opposition backs.
 
Cant wait for Round 1 so the mids can start dropping floaters on Kennedy's head all day while he gets triple-teamed by the opposition backs.
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Agree Muppets on both sided

I do find it funny people getting angry at guys like Novak and JD . They are probably in the top 0.1% fittest healthiest people in the world who don't even take pain killers or eat sugar but we want them to get a trial vaccine with no long term data for a disease that would barely give them a sniffle.

Novak takes cold showers and goes in ice baths to naturally boost his immune health like that crazy Wim Hof guy .
Google Cytokine storm.


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thats something youve learned today.
 
People who are against vaccines are pretty chill though, and would never sacrifice their livelihoods or organise week-long protests about it.
Scrolling through the Facebook profiles of a few old school chums, it's funny to see how quickly some switched from daily rants about BLM protests to daily reminders about upcoming anti-vax rallies! :tearsofjoy:
 

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Agree Muppets on both sided

I do find it funny people getting angry at guys like Novak and JD . They are probably in the top 0.1% fittest healthiest people in the world who don't even take pain killers or eat sugar but we want them to get a trial vaccine with no long term data for a disease that would barely give them a sniffle.

Novak takes cold showers and goes in ice baths to naturally boost his immune health like that crazy Wim Hof guy .
Novak also reportedly believes you can change polluted water into drinking water with emotions, so not sure he really has a full grasp on health.
 
Agree Muppets on both sided

I do find it funny people getting angry at guys like Novak and JD . They are probably in the top 0.1% fittest healthiest people in the world who don't even take pain killers or eat sugar but we want them to get a trial vaccine with no long term data for a disease that would barely give them a sniffle.

Novak takes cold showers and goes in ice baths to naturally boost his immune health like that crazy Wim Hof guy .

I hope you haven't gone down that misinformation rabbit hole.

All approved vaccines in Australia are rigorously examined by the TGA, an independent expert body, and they have all undergone the required clinical trials with countless participants, all fully vetted and examined in peer-reviewed journals. The original Pfizer one has even been given full FDA approval - that is, it has passed the most stringent vaccine safety protocols and it is now longer required to be approved under the emergency use authorisation powers that were initially used to get it into American arms as soon as practicable.

The disease has been proven to hospitalise and kill people in Novak's demographic - this is not in dispute, you can 'do your own research' and find plentiful evidence of that. You want to question the long term safety data of the vaccine - do you simultaneously believe there are no long term effects from actually catching COVID?
 
Agree Muppets on both sided

I do find it funny people getting angry at guys like Novak and JD . They are probably in the top 0.1% fittest healthiest people in the world who don't even take pain killers or eat sugar but we want them to get a trial vaccine with no long term data for a disease that would barely give them a sniffle.

Novak takes cold showers and goes in ice baths to naturally boost his immune health like that crazy Wim Hof guy .

Darling doesn't take pain killers? I find that difficult to believe. A kpp not taking painkillers of going to struggle for consistency at the elite level
 
I hope you haven't gone down that misinformation rabbit hole.

All approved vaccines in Australia are rigorously examined by the TGA, an independent expert body, and they have all undergone the required clinical trials with countless participants, all fully vetted and examined in peer-reviewed journals. The original Pfizer one has even been given full FDA approval - that is, it has passed the most stringent vaccine safety protocols and it is now longer required to be approved under the emergency use authorisation powers that were initially used to get it into American arms as soon as practicable.

The disease has been proven to hospitalise and kill people in Novak's demographic - this is not in dispute, you can 'do your own research' and find plentiful evidence of that. You want to question the long term safety data of the vaccine - do you simultaneously believe there are no long term effects from actually catching COVID?
2 questions

1 . What are the long term side effects of these vaccines ?

2 . Do you really think omnicron would make Novak or JD be sick enough to even get long covid ?

I feel they have risk assessed for them and they don't believe the risk of the vaccine is worse than catching covid at this stage .
 
2 questions

1 . What are the long term side effects of these vaccines ?

2 . Do you really think omnicron would make Novak or JD be sick enough to even get long covid ?

I feel they have risk assessed for them and they don't believe the risk of the vaccine is worse than catching covid at this stage .

1 - We don't know what they can do in 5 years, sure - but do you know what COVID may still do 5 years from now? Are you hedging your bets on vaccines being damaging in the long term while COVID will have no long term effects?
2 - No, but that's not a certainty - otherwise healthy people are still dying from omicron - less lethal than delta can still be lethal.

I am prepared to call Novak and JD idiots and will stand by it.
 
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