News Jack Dyer Stand -Demolition Has Begun

[mauricerioli]

That's still not a good enough reason to destroy the grandstand.
There's other options available.

No one is saying that is the only reason it’s being torn down, it’s been pointed out countless times in this thread the multitude of reasons it needs to be torn down.

 

[SpareTowel]

How much would the removal of those structures have helped Melbourne?

Now compare how the removal of the JDS would help Richmond

Chalk and cheese.

Virtually all the same arguments were being made to destroy Flinders Street. People insisted it was run down, ugly, costly to maintain/inefficient, too difficult to renovate, an impediment to progress

 

[SpareTowel]

Why did Collingwood build an MCG sized training ground?

Why does Essendon have an MCG sized training ground?

Why did Geelong build a separate MCG sized training ground?


I’ll let your Freo Dockers answer that question actually....

New Cockburn base has 'best of everything'

Fremantle's new home at Cockburn would set a new standard for best practice in the AFL, according to a report in The West Australian

www.fremantlefc.com.au

“It includes a main training oval big enough to replicate every AFL ground and a GPS program that shows instantly where goal posts and markings need to go to mirror venues such as the MCG, SCG, the Gabba, Adelaide Oval and WA’s Domain Stadium.

It is modelled on the new Burswood Stadium oval with the same surface and orientation and will have a similar perched water table under it which captures water and retains it so the ground can be watered from below.

“On some grounds you have more space and some are smaller, so to be able to train in those situations leading up to games will be a big advantage,” Fremantle Dockers Foundation ambassador and star midfielder Stephen Hill told The West Australian.

Such a big advantage, Freo's slump in performance coincided perfectly with their move to Cockburn

 

[Muddiemoose]

Never seen so many strawman arguments in my life with people trying to imply we will forget Jack Dyre is we demolish the stand

Its literally un-useable and hurting the club right now we
Have departments working out of portables because we have no space for them

 

[SpareTowel]

Never seen so many strawman arguments in my life with people trying to imply we will forget Jack Dyre is we demolish the stand

Its literally un-useable and hurting the club right now we
Have departments working out of portables because we have no space for them

Didn't imply Dyer would be forgotten. Only said it was interesting to watch Richmond fans celebrate the demise of a home ground stand named after him.

 

[Muddiemoose]

Didn't imply Dyer would be forgotten. Only said it was interesting to watch Richmond fans celebrate the demise of a home ground stand named after him.

No one is celebrating it, but we understand that footy clubs are in an arms race for facilities and if a condemned building that has no use right now getting demolished helps future proof the club and let’s it expand the Houli Foundation and AFLW programs it’s a necessary loss

 

[HTT]

Virtually all the same arguments were being made to destroy Flinders Street. People insisted it was run down, ugly, costly to maintain/inefficient, too difficult to renovate, an impediment to progress

Can you explain your plan to fit an MCG sized ground and new expanded facilities comparable to those which will be put in the new stand? Preferably with some rough sketches.

 

[TheTick]

Despite being as not for profit organisation, we're not a charity. If National Trust wants it to stay, then they just need to stump up funds for restoration.
Everyone is getting very worked up in here because none of you are actually trying to solve the problem. It's bloody easy to say knock it down or keep it there, but neither of these alone solves the issue of an unusable stand, employees working out of portables, and an undersized field (desired dimensions).
How about the emotion gets parked for a second and we address ALL of the needs instead of one?

 

[acr2751]

Virtually all the same arguments were being made to destroy Flinders Street. People insisted it was run down, ugly, costly to maintain/inefficient, too difficult to renovate, an impediment to progress

and that was wrong too its still ugly and out dated we deserve better services for our money

 

[acr2751]

hanging on to derelict buildings for who

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

hanging on to derelict buildings for who

Out of respect for history and for future generations.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

This is the first time Benny Gale has done something to piss me off.

 

[living_in_syd]

This is the first time Benny Gale has done something to piss me off.

Disrespectful. 99% people realise we have to move on, the stand is literally holding us back.

 

[Muddiemoose]

This is the first time Benny Gale has done something to piss me off.

He is the reason that we have free agency in the comp
It came into the comp when he was the players association president
That’s the only shit thing he’s done

 

[SpareTowel]

Can you explain your plan to fit an MCG sized ground and new expanded facilities comparable to those which will be put in the new stand? Preferably with some rough sketches.

Go underground and acquire more surrounding land.

and that was wrong too its still ugly and out dated we deserve better services for our money

You think Flinders station should have been demolished? Lol

 

[HTT]

Go underground and acquire more surrounding land.

You think Flinders station should have been demolished? Lol

I take it you propose National Trust should be financing this given they care so much about the stand.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

I take it you propose National Trust should be financing this given they care so much about the stand.

Lol
Yeah that damn National Trust causing trouble again.
They should be banned from saving everything.
We're one of the richest clubs in the league and getting richer.

 

[HTT]

Lol
Yeah that damn National Trust causing trouble again.
They should be banned from saving everything.
We're one of the richest clubs in the league and getting richer.

You think the club has the means to put a road underground when we’re already relying on government funding to develop the new facilities? Lol

 

[Muddiemoose]

Lol
Yeah that damn National Trust causing trouble again.
They should be banned from saving everything.
We're one of the richest clubs in the league and getting richer.

I think you have a warped idea about how much money the club actually makes in profit

Last year it was less than 300k
We might be one of the best clubs in a financial sense but we aren’t exactly printing cash either

 

[mauricerioli]

Go underground and acquire more surrounding land.

You think Flinders station should have been demolished? Lol

You think the club hasn’t thought of that? Lol

They’ve been planning this for years, they’ve already explored and costed all options and this is the most viable option.

And we’re already going underground.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

You think the club has the means to put a road underground when we’re already relying on government funding to develop the new facilities? Lol

I didn't realise we were so far down struggle street that we have to destroy 80 years of history to survive.

 

[HTT]

I didn't realise we were so far down struggle street that we have to destroy 80 years of history to survive.

Who said our goal was to survive? We survived 1980-2017. Is that where we want to be as a club though?

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Who said our goal was to survive? We survived 1980-2017. Is that where we want to be as a club though?

If we knock down that stand we lose part of our identity .

 

[HTT]

If we knock down that stand we lose part of our identity .

We are losing part of our identity regardless here

1) a stand
2) our success
3) our location

We get to keep 2 of these, choose wisely.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

We are losing part of our identity regardless here

1) a stand
2) our success
3) our location

We get to keep 2 of these, choose wisely.

You can't say keeping the stand will cost us success.
We won 3 flags in 4 years with the stand there.