Jack Ginnivan - Redemption arc

[sr36]

Has happened before, and will again. It’s poor but it’s how they work through it now

Again I doubt it’s as big of a story if it’s different players

It only made the press because it was Ginnivan.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

It only made the press because it was Ginnivan.

Atleast as over reacted as this has been, if it was anyone else it’d be a lot less meaning.

 

[JPetro83]

Deserves all the hate he gets.. he and his 4ft mate. Cant stand Ginnivin and Watson

 

[nineteen eighty]

Without reading all these latest posts, let me guess how it plays out...

Hawks fans defending him.

Everyone else thinks he's a w@nker.

 

[FrankDrebin]

Without reading all these latest posts, let me guess how it plays out...

Hawks fans defending him.

Everyone else thinks he's a w@nker.

To be fair there seems to be a fair % of hawks posters conceding he has done the wrong thing. So you know he really has F*cked up.

 

[peetoo]

Human headline at least in footy. We haven’t had one since the buddy days at hawthorn

 

[RCAB]

I'm sure you would be happy to role up at Rod Laver to see what ever famous musician you paid top dollar to see. Only for them to not show up as they had a hangover. I'm sure you will be happy as larry once they tell you they will reschedule at a later date.

Yep, it's exactly the same thing as a concert.

Also, I don't think you've been to many concerts if you think that it doesn't happen there too.

 

[FrustratedTiger]

It only made the press because it was Ginnivan.

It made the press because someone connected to SEN was affected by it. Players have been no-showing footy clinics since forever

 

[deck]

Again I doubt it’s as big of a story if it’s different players

True.

 

[deck]

Also, I don't think you've been to many concerts if you think that it doesn't happen there too

Luckily for me over the years the cancellation has happened in the days before the event. But I was unlucky enough to have a rap duo from Long Beach only have one member turn up for the show. And that member couldn't be arsed rapping along to full vocal tracks that were playing half the time.

But have put up with artists coming on 2-3 hours later than scheduled. And on all these occasions I was not impressed or happy about it. Especially when it was a week night and I had work the next morning.

Yep, it's exactly the same thing as a concert.

The point was it was a paid clinic specifically set around the 2 players. And was cancelled at the last minute that parents and kids would have shown up before being notified. The inconvenience and the specifics of the event are slightly different to player not showing up to a free school or footy club run clinic.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

It made the press because someone connected to SEN was affected by it. Players have been no-showing footy clinics since forever

I was the photographer for a Starlight foundation event way back at the turn of the century taking photos of sick kids and their families with footy stars, and a number of AFL players didn’t turn up.

Anthony Stevens did and his soon to be infamous wife, but he also had with him an out of clothes police escort because he’d apparently played up the night before in town, got locked up and had somehow convinced them to let him go(but with an escort). It made very little sense to me at the time and still doesn't even now thinking back.
It never made it to the press either.

 

[Do_Beta_Rapport]

It made the press because someone connected to SEN was affected by it. Players have been no-showing footy clinics since forever

And a bigger story because they organised this themselves the players at $65 a pop.

Out of season to get some cash on a Sunday morning.

If this was organised with the club you could just wheel out a couple of other players.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

And a bigger story because they organised this themselves the players at $65 a pop.

Out of season to get some cash on a Sunday morning.

If this was organised with the club you could just wheel out a couple of other players.

Doubt they’d of organised it and would’ve just originally agreed to showing up.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Whoever rostered the players for the footy clinic the morning after the bnf deserves a kick up the clacker. Not making an excuse for the players, but that obviously didn't help.

 

[randyzany]

Unfair that a young innocent helpless child like Ginni is being criticized for not upholding the standards and responsibilities expected of a grown adult. Those footy clinic folks are a bunch of mean bullies for leaking this to media.

* tongue in cheek *

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

Again I doubt it’s as big of a story if it’s different players

Yes, but they welcome and embrace the attention. They make money off their profiles.

It's a bit rich to play the 'It's a nothing story if it's a couple of random players, instead of players with the following of Ginnivan and Watson" when the whole reason people are paying quite a bit of money for a footy clinic is because Ginnivan and Watson are headlining it.

People loved Akermanis' antics early days too. At some point, Ginnivan and Watson are probably going to have to realise that when they constantly put the spotlight on themselves at every opportunity, when they inevitably f**k up (and I fully expect Ginnivan at least to remain unchanged for the rest of his AFL career), the media will gleefully pounce on every misstep.

This was shit form, plain and simple. Not a hanging offence, but seriously $65 a ticket and then both players pulling a no-show? It doesn't say much for their character. And it's on them: not "their managers", not "whoever scheduled this the morning after the B&F", not "Entitled Karen and her snitch kid running off to the media". Their fault and now they have to wear it.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Whoever rostered the players for the footy clinic the morning after the bnf deserves a kick up the clacker. Not making an excuse for the players, but that obviously didn't help.

It was a private event, ran by an organization that was not anything to do with the Footy club.
The players apparently tried to get out of it a couple of weeks beforehand.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Yes, but they welcome and embrace the attention. They make money off their profiles.

It's a bit rich to play the 'It's a nothing story if it's a couple of random players, instead of players with the following of Ginnivan and Watson" when the whole reason people are paying quite a bit of money for a footy clinic is because Ginnivan and Watson are headlining it.

People loved Akermanis' antics early days too. At some point, Ginnivan and Watson are probably going to have to realise that when they constantly put the spotlight on themselves at every opportunity, when they inevitably f**k up (and I fully expect Ginnivan at least to remain unchanged for the rest of his AFL career), the media will gleefully pounce on every misstep.

This was shit form, plain and simple. Not a hanging offence, but seriously $65 a ticket and then both players pulling a no-show? It doesn't say much for their character. And it's on them: not "their managers", not "whoever scheduled this the morning after the B&F", not "Entitled Karen and her snitch kid running off to the media". Their fault and now they have to wear it.

Wear it, make it right and move on. Nothing more you can do.

 

[HeHateMe]

It's a very Clarko viewpoint. The rest of the world has moved on and aren't so fond of that viewpoint.

Very interesting the current discussion about Darcys leadership, fits absolutely in the new mold you had been alluding too. But now we are questioning if that's good enough, that if that personality fits being a captain.

Just an interesting throw back to our discussion a month back where you were critical of the leadership type Sis is.

I think the one puzzle piece your missing is that footy although a sport is physical demanding. Other leadership models you might see in education or teaching don't need to factor that in at all.

 

[sr36]

Very interesting the current discussion about Darcys leadership, fits absolutely in the new mold you had been alluding too. But now we are questioning if that's good enough, that if that personality fits being a captain.

Just an interesting throw back to our discussion a month back where you were critical of the leadership type Sis is.

I think the one puzzle piece your missing is that footy although a sport is physical demanding. Other leadership models you might see in education or teaching don't need to factor that in at all.

It's Cornes clickbaiting.

I wouldn't know if Moore is a good leader or not or Sicily in the main either, but losing your shit and then following it with I stick up for the boys isn't good leadership.

 

[Iago]

It was a private event, ran by an organization that was not anything to do with the Footy club.
The players apparently tried to get out of it a couple of weeks beforehand.

That makes it worse that they conveniently were sick and couldn't make it to a clinic they tried to get out of weeks earlier.

 

[sr36]

Doubt they’d of organised it and would’ve just originally agreed to showing up.

No idea who would be responsible - player, manager, club? but FFS check your calendar.

 

[randyzany]

It was a private event, ran by an organization that was not anything to do with the Footy club.
The players apparently tried to get out of it a couple of weeks beforehand.

About as believable as blaming Daylight Savings for coming in late for a scheduled Thursday morning event.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

About as believable as blaming Daylight Savings for coming in late for a scheduled Thursday morning event.

Day drinking?

 

[sr36]

It was a private event, ran by an organization that was not anything to do with the Footy club.
The players apparently tried to get out of it a couple of weeks beforehand.

How early are BnF dates known? Might not be arranged until you'd been knocked out of finals? Could have easily been booked into this before they had a BnF date.