Traded Jake Carlisle [traded w/ #23 and #44 for #5, #24 and Craig Bird]

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I despise Essendon as much as the next person but in this case St Kilda is completely and utterly low balling Essendon.

Carlisle isn't worth Pick 5, but he's certainly worth a pick between 8 and 12. The onus is on St Kilda to make it happen. Throwing a 2nd round pick and a fringe player is way unders compared to the slightly overs of Carlisle for Pick 5. Even the latest deal is unders for Carlisle.
Stop being amateurs and pay up......so the rest of trade week can sort itself out.
 
In other words, pick 15, 18, 23 and 25 or pick 5?

With all the recent draft sanctions, there is nooo way we will accept that
 

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I'll be telling Hawthorn we'll pay some of Carlisle's salary after getting an offer like that from St Kilda.

Pick 5 for Carlisle and two picks which could be packaged up for a top 10...., they don't really rate him do they.
Someone do the points - what is 5 - 23 - 25 worth?
 

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Traded Jake Carlisle [traded w/ #23 and #44 for #5, #24 and Craig Bird]

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