News James Peatling chooses Adelaide

[Redline]

I think this one will go late into the trade period but not because of any angst between the clubs but we need to see what happens with pick swaps and other trades.

Reid mentioned a third club could be involved so we need to wait for a few other things to happen first.

 

[Coopers]

Culture not great at Orange team by the looks.

They struggle with not being in a football heartland, and having to draft people from outside it.
The go home factor is a thing. The Vic bias is palpable - not much media around this stuff because it's all about how wronged the VAFL is.

But good god, they are good at recycling players for first round picks. Very smart, they will never be low on the table while doing that.

 

[Pugsley]

They struggle with not being in a football heartland, and having to draft people from outside it.
The go home factor is a thing. The Vic bias is palpable - not much media around this stuff because it's all about how wronged the VAFL is.

But good god, they are good at recycling players for first round picks. Very smart, they will never be low on the table while doing that.

They turned Alex Carey into a Test cricketer so it's not all bad.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Honestly do we need to drop to the level of bagging GWS and its local area.

don't we remember what it was like getting that shit from Carlton fans (etc etc)

Get the trade done AFC. Perhaps get Toby Green while you are there.

GWS and GC have been great for the game and for growth

And GWS have been highly successful and are so close to having a by now

Agree give respect etc

Having said that he’s a 2nd round pick value in trade , should be fairly obvious . Especially since a 2nd round pick attached to us shouldn’t be a late 2nd

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I think this one will go late into the trade period but not because of any angst between the clubs but we need to see what happens with pick swaps and other trades.

Reid mentioned a third club could be involved so we need to wait for a few other things to happen first.

Essendon?

If Stringer heading to GWS.

 

[Scorpus]

Okay so looking at what value James Peatling would have in a trade, I went looking for past trades with the following criteria.

1. Approximately 4 years in the system
2. Not fully cemented in the side throughout the year but improving
3. Around 40 to 50 total games

And found the following

Liam Henry - future 2nd + swap of future 4ths
Dylan Stephens

15

Dylan Stephens

Age

23

Ht

184cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

4star

CL

0.0

1star

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

4star

CL

0.0

1star

- pick 25 upgraded to pick 19 + pick 44
Bobby Hill - future 2nd + minor pick downgrade
Hugh Greenwood

1

Hugh Greenwood

Age

32

Ht

190cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.9

4star

K

8.8

3star

HB

8.1

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

6.8

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

17.4

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

8.9

5star

CL

5.6

5star

D

16.4

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

2.2

3star

T

7.6

5star

CL

4.4

5star

- future 3rd + future 4th
Tom Bell

Tom Bell

Age

33

Ht

188cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.5

5star

G

0.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

14.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.2

5star

G

0.6

3star

- pick 21 + pick 41 downgraded to pick 60

Related trades but not quite the same

Jordan Clark

6

Jordan Clark

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.5

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.2

3star

K

10.4

4star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

(three years in system) - pick 22 + future 4th upgraded to future 3rd
Alex Witherden

23

Alex Witherden

Age

26

Ht

188cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

15.2

5star

HB

5.5

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.8

4star

MG

386.5

5star

D

13.0

3star

K

10.0

4star

HB

3.0

2star

M

7.0

5star

T

0.0

1star

MG

201.0

3star

D

24.0

5star

K

15.4

5star

HB

8.6

5star

M

5.8

5star

T

2.2

4star

MG

380.2

5star

(fell out of favor, four years in system) - pick 58 + future 3rd
Patrick Lipinski

1

Patrick Lipinski

Age

26

Ht

190cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.0

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

10.2

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.8

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

18.3

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

11.3

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.3

4star

D

15.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

8.6

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

4star

CL

1.2

4star

(five years in system) - pick 43
Jack Higgins (three years in system) - pick 21 upgraded to pick 17 + future 2nd
Adam Saad

42

Adam Saad

Age

30

Ht

178cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.5

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

MG

349.1

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

12.0

5star

HB

8.7

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.4

3star

MG

388.3

5star

D

17.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.2

3star

(to Essendon, three years in system) - future 2nd
Callum Ah Chee

4

Callum Ah Chee

Age

26

Ht

183cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.9

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

0.8

3star

D

11.1

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.4

2star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

0.7

3star

D

9.4

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.8

3star

(fell out of favor, four years in system) - future 2nd + future 4th
Alex Keath

42

Alex Keath

Age

32

Ht

198cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.0

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

206.7

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.6

1star

MG

193.4

3star

D

11.4

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

165.0

3star

(30 games) - future 2nd + swap of 3rds
Jarryd Lyons

17

Jarryd Lyons

Age

32

Ht

184cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.5

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

8.7

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

4.8

5star

D

21.7

5star

K

14.7

5star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

5.1

5star

CL

4.7

5star

D

11.0

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

5.8

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

CL

1.6

4star

(six years in system) - pick 43
Jaidyn Stephenson

2

Jaidyn Stephenson

Age

25

Ht

189cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

8.8

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.5

5star

D

11.0

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

4.3

3star

M

3.5

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.4

5star

(three years in system) - pick 26 + pick 39 upgraded to pick 33
Curtly Hampton

Curtly Hampton

Age

31

Ht

185cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.4

4star

K

8.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.3

5star

CL

0.7

3star

No current season stats available

D

9.6

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.4

4star

CL

0.4

3star

(fell out of favor, five years in system) - future 2nd
Troy Menzel

Troy Menzel

Age

30

Ht

187cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.0

2star

K

6.4

3star

HB

2.5

2star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.6

5star

(three years in system) - pick 28
Paul Seedsman

11

Paul Seedsman

Age

32

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

(five years in system) - pick 32
Stewart Crameri

Stewart Crameri

Age

36

Ht

190cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.5

4star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

16.4

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.6

3star

(more best 22) - pick 26
Izak Rankine

23

Izak Rankine

Age

24

Ht

181cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

2.0

5star

D

13.0

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

2.0

5star

D

13.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.7

5star

G

2.0

5star

(more best 22) - pick 5

Verdict: Based on this I would say that trading our future 2nd round pick with no other pick swaps is fair value

Don't know what those GWS posters are smoking thinking his value would involve a first round pick

 

[adelaidecrows]

Okay so looking at what value James Peatling would have in a trade, I went looking for past trades with the following criteria.

1. Approximately 4 years in the system
2. Not fully cemented in the side throughout the year but improving
3. Around 40 to 50 total games

And found the following

Liam Henry - future 2nd + swap of future 4ths
Dylan Stephens - pick 25 upgraded to pick 19 + pick 44
Bobby Hill - future 2nd + minor pick downgrade
Hugh Greenwood - future 3rd + future 4th
Tom Bell - pick 21 + pick 41 downgraded to pick 60

Related trades but not quite the same

Jordan Clark (three years in system) - pick 22 + future 4th upgraded to future 3rd
Alex Witherden (fell out of favor, four years in system) - pick 58 + future 3rd
Patrick Lipinski (five years in system) - pick 43
Jack Higgins (three years in system) - pick 21 upgraded to pick 17 + future 2nd
Adam Saad (to Essendon, three years in system) - future 2nd
Callum Ah Chee (fell out of favor, four years in system) - future 2nd + future 4th
Alex Keath (30 games) - future 2nd + swap of 3rds
Jarryd Lyons (six years in system) - pick 43
Jaidyn Stephenson (three years in system) - pick 26 + pick 39 upgraded to pick 33
Curtly Hampton (fell out of favor, five years in system) - future 2nd
Troy Menzel (three years in system) - pick 28
Paul Seedsman (five years in system) - pick 32
Stewart Crameri (more best 22) - pick 26
Izak Rankine (more best 22) - pick 5

Verdict: Based on this I would say that trading our future 2nd round pick with no other pick swaps is fair value

Don't know what those GWS posters are smoking thinking his value would involve a first round pick

I would say its a bit biased after all the players who have left. Probably trying to recoup some stars via the draft