Strategy Jason Horne-Francis: North trade him to Port for massive unders

[Gtowncrow]

I'd even consider taking the worst player in the AFL (Kayne Turner) off their hands as a bonus

Interesting thread topic... Worst player in AFL - not at your club.

 

[Sanders]

Imagine hearing of a team giving up their Captain (who year prior was an AA), Pick 6 in the draft and paying that key forward 7 million over 7 years only for him play 54 games for 42 goals before retiring after 4 seasons. You would say they the f*cked up big time.

The fact that they would (and should) do it again a million times over is mind blowing because he won em a flag.

The point is more than word play, he literally won them the flag

It astounds me that he didn’t win the Norm Smith

 

[WetCrow1991]

The point is more than word play, he literally won them the flag

It astounds me that he didn’t win the Norm Smith

Yep he was fantastic in that game.

 

[Sanders]

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I don’t think you can take anything out of this as a preference about where he wants to go

You can absolutely take this as a clear sign he wants out though.

 

[Sanders]

This is surpassed Lever/McGovern level smoke

This is beyond smoke, it’s a cry for help. Like “rescue me” written in big letters using rocks on a desert island beach

 

[latinoheat]

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Are port getting reamed here?
Butters would be just about their best player, and then to throw in a first and 2nd round pick (which they don’t have) is a huge price

 

[skittlebrew]

Imagine hearing of a team giving up their Captain (who year prior was an AA), Pick 6 in the draft and paying that key forward 7 million over 7 years only for him play 54 games for 42 goals before retiring after 4 seasons. You would say they the f*cked up big time.

The fact that they would (and should) do it again a million times over is mind blowing because he won em a flag.

Everything about the trade actually made sense except for 7mil over 7 years. Put a mil a year over 5 years or 800k over 7 years and you bet your ass he still would've taken it. Bulldogs got absolutely played in that respect.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

I don’t think you can take anything out of this as a preference about where he wants to go

You can absolutely take this as a clear sign he wants out though.

We hope

 

[skittlebrew]

Are port getting reamed here?
Butters would be just about their best player, and then to throw in a first and 2nd round pick (which they don’t have) is a huge price

Yeah you don't give up a possible gun player to get another gun. You give up a stats padding b grader like prime Matt Crouch, who looks good on paper but actually does SFA to impact the game.

 

[Crow till I die]

This is beyond smoke, it’s a cry for help. Like “rescue me” written in big letters using rocks on a desert island beach

No quite the Anne heche stranded on a desert island - 6 days 7 nights approach then

 

[ams4crows]

This is North's Dangerfield moment, we were all in denial about him leaving. With Walsh's tragic passing we thought no way would he leave. We celebrated Danger buying a boat and a fishing day with Danger as a radio contest prize that would happen after his current contract expired as signs he would stay.

There would be mass debates where people would change their mind every week over what their own gut feeling of what Danger was going to do.

Hell it was office cooler talk most weeks towards the end. There were even people here who suggested they knew people they worked with who's friend played in a mixed netball team as Mardi suggest that they weren't leaving because of some random over heard conversation.

It sucked ass, and the exact same scene is playing out on North's board right now.

 

[1990crow]

This is North's Dangerfield moment, we were all in denial about him leaving. With Walsh's tragic passing we thought no way would he leave. We celebrated Danger buying a boat and a fishing day with Danger as a radio contest prize that would happen after his current contract expired as signs he would stay.

There would be mass debates where people would change their mind every week over what their own gut feeling of what Danger was going to do.

Hell it was office cooler talk most weeks towards the end. There were even people here who suggested they knew people they worked with who's friend played in a mixed netball team as Mardi suggest that they weren't leaving because of some random over heard conversation.

It sucked ass, and the exact same scene is playing out on North's board right now.

To be fair Danger was 25, not 18.

 

[Dangerousfield]

Let's look at this from Norf's viewpoint.

They are a small club with small supporter base that no one loves, they are a club imploding under their own past poor decisions which includes not taking the generous AFL package to relocate to the Gold Coast, they appear to have no hope for the future, they are about to plead to the AFL for draft assistance, they are desperately looking for any life raft to cling to to stay afloat in the rough seas of the AFL.

Do they even entertain letting go the one glimmer of hope at Arden St?

Norf will not be trading JHF until they absolutely have to and that's the end of 2023 IF JHF says he wants out. That's when we need to be a big player.

Like it or not JHF will be at Norf next year and for those floating possible trades before then, you may as well piss into the wind.

 

[GreyCrow]

But how does North approach the problem of Maria errm Jason?

Do they keep selecting him or drop him or recognise the individual is bigger than the club?

And how does that impact the rest of the playing group?

Kulcha

 

[LeftyLuke]

You think the Adelaide Clubs are going to think less of him because of this?

If anything he is becoming more valuable as the more damaged he becomes the less the Roos are going to be able to get for him.

If I was his agent, I would be showing him all the footage of Jimmy Butler I could!

Didn't say the Adelaide clubs are going to think less of him. That was someone else that made that comment. I said that by showing his hand that he wants to go to port, port won't have to offer him as much compared to if he said he was willing to go to either Adelaide club. Now Adelaide may push their offer up out of spite to hurt their salary cap but if port knows he has no intention of going to the crows they won't have to pay him as much as we aren't a genuine alternative. He shouldn't have liked the tweet. The player should always keep clubs in the dark to get the best offer.

 

[Trigger13]

This is North's Dangerfield moment, we were all in denial about him leaving. With Walsh's tragic passing we thought no way would he leave. We celebrated Danger buying a boat and a fishing day with Danger as a radio contest prize that would happen after his current contract expired as signs he would stay.

There would be mass debates where people would change their mind every week over what their own gut feeling of what Danger was going to do.

Hell it was office cooler talk most weeks towards the end. There were even people here who suggested they knew people they worked with who's friend played in a mixed netball team as Mardi suggest that they weren't leaving because of some random over heard conversation.

It sucked ass, and the exact same scene is playing out on North's board right now.

Thanks for the PTSD. Oh the memories.

 

[CrowinNT]

This is North's Dangerfield moment, we were all in denial about him leaving. With Walsh's tragic passing we thought no way would he leave. We celebrated Danger buying a boat and a fishing day with Danger as a radio contest prize that would happen after his current contract expired as signs he would stay.

There would be mass debates where people would change their mind every week over what their own gut feeling of what Danger was going to do.

Hell it was office cooler talk most weeks towards the end. There were even people here who suggested they knew people they worked with who's friend played in a mixed netball team as Mardi suggest that they weren't leaving because of some random over heard conversation.

It sucked ass, and the exact same scene is playing out on North's board right now.

Agree and I have memories of Alex’s Dinner parties
Real Estate transactions - Oh that’s for investment
This list went on

 

[arrowman]

if port knows he has no intention of going to the crows they won't have to pay him as much as we aren't a genuine alternative. He shouldn't have liked the tweet. The player should always keep clubs in the dark to get the best offer.

You are assuming the "like" was genuine i.e. he was expressing a like for being traded to Port. I think it was just a dumb "LOL" like. Of course the optics are bad whichever way you look at it, but I doubt that this would persuade/fool any club into thinking he had a preference.

 

[Crowmurder]

The point is more than word play, he literally won them the flag

It astounds me that he didn’t win the Norm Smith

Have to say I had him BOG. Particularly as JJ's disp efficiency from memory was horrible. Also off the back of a pretty impressive pre-lim too.

 

[Crowmurder]

This is North's Dangerfield moment, we were all in denial about him leaving. With Walsh's tragic passing we thought no way would he leave. We celebrated Danger buying a boat and a fishing day with Danger as a radio contest prize that would happen after his current contract expired as signs he would stay.

There would be mass debates where people would change their mind every week over what their own gut feeling of what Danger was going to do.

Hell it was office cooler talk most weeks towards the end. There were even people here who suggested they knew people they worked with who's friend played in a mixed netball team as Mardi suggest that they weren't leaving because of some random over heard conversation.

It sucked ass, and the exact same scene is playing out on North's board right now.

Funny you should mention Walshy, as it was at the 2015 Phil Walsh showdown that was the final nail in the coffin for me re: Danger leaving. Just by chance, I was standing on the hill with my mate next to 2 tradies (also Crows supporters) who were actually working in Moggs building his house at the time. Obviously said, yep he's 100% gone.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

You are assuming the "like" was genuine i.e. he was expressing a like for being traded to Port. I think it was just a dumb "LOL" like. Of course the optics are bad whichever way you look at it, but I doubt that this would persuade/fool any club into thinking he had a preference.

In all honestly as much as I'd love to get him he probably just enjoyed the suggestion that he is worth Butters and a first rounder.

I wouldn't do it but he probably is worth that and I'm sure he enjoyed the media saying he is that much better than an established young mid.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Are we sure the screenshot of the like wasn’t photo shopped?

 

[FR0GGY]

Are we sure the screenshot of the like wasn’t photo shopped?

Let’s find that out after we trade

 

[Sanders]

Agree and I have memories of Alex’s Dinner parties
Real Estate transactions - Oh that’s for investment
This list went on

See, it’s more than the faux Swan Dive into the great abyss that made Alex so memorable.

Cue more conspicuous, gurning denials from cleanhands

 

[Sanders]

In all honestly as much as I'd love to get him he probably just enjoyed the suggestion that he is worth Butters and a first rounder.

I wouldn't do it but he probably is worth that and I'm sure he enjoyed the media saying he is that much better than an established young mid.

I doubt he gave it a second thought, never imagined it would be a thing.

Get me out of here? Sure! Lol - clicks like.