Player Watch Jason Horne-Francis - You were always one of us
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Its a feature of all club boards this time of year.
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It won't. It might happen for more.
We will see i guess, 2 mid range firsts, 3 2nd rounders and a couple of later picks is unprecedented for any player
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As long as we're not giving up a Butters/Georgiades/Sinn, who gives a s**t how many second and third rounders we're throwing in? It's like being offered a $100 note for ten $5 notes and then acting like you've gotten the worse deal because you're giving up 10 things for 1.
Unfortunate it won’t be far off. Getting a pick 1 one year after being drafted requires a lot. And I think it’s fair enough.
Its the 2 2nds for mine
Thats 4 players we would likely draft and make it as AFL players. It's unprecedented, we're not receiving a Chris judd proven player. I know the ceiling is Buckley but there's a realistic floor of Jake Stringer
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Isn't North Melbourne in the same position as Port Adelaide was re Jacobs and Stevens? Port walked away in both cases because they didn't feel they were being offered fair value for their players. Lot yet to play out here but North might end up doing exactly the same.
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It's a lot easier to walk away from pick 38 than it is to walk away from two first rounders and change.
Says who? There's a lot of trade period to go yet. When they come to their senses, they will want to offload him this season. As much as we all love the philosophical stance we took with Nick Stevens, long term, did it work in our favour? They need to think about what the best case is for them. We should pay the minimum it takes to just make it better than they will get next season. Next season they will have less leverage.
Maybe, to me his worth is two mid firsts (or a top 5 and a later one) and a 2nd rounder with some late change maybe
That puts him at the same level as Judd, Cameron and higher than Dangerfields ect
There is a reason we did the 27 trade down trade so we will see
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You know every club is gonna hard tag him right?
Still unknown if he will live up to his form in the SANFL and under 18s where he had space and time due to his pace compared to his peers.
Its not peak Carey North are losing, or peak Judd, Dangerfield, trading on potential is fraught with risk, and not worth throwing the kitchen sink at until proven.
Still unknown if he will live up to his form in the SANFL and under 18s where he had space and time due to his pace compared to his peers.
Its not peak Carey North are losing, or peak Judd, Dangerfield, trading on potential is fraught with risk, and not worth throwing the kitchen sink at until proven.
It's actually not lol. You're saying all those picks and what we give up to get them is the equivalent of last years pick 1, who doesn't want to be at the club, didn't play to potential this year because of it, and will definitely leave next year. I don't know how you can state this with such certainty. We may decide to pay that cost but we may get him for less. Your metaphor is broken. A $100 is worth $100 and a $5 note is worth $5, there's no subjectivity or potential like there is in player and draft pick futures.
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So we lose Bonner and the accompanying 30ish, our first, our future first, and 2022 picks 21, 33, 43 and 53?
I'd be wanting JH-F, Kossie and NW-M for that.
No, this is making it look worse than it is. With Schulzenfest's proposal, we've ultimately lost a 2022 first, a 2023 first, the Amon Compo (which was 27, probably a few picks later with academy bids) and Bonner.
For JHF and Rioli. If it stings a little it's probably about right.
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They'll only tag him if he's a gun. The idea that every club in the league will care at all is silly. He's just another player to the other 16 clubs. North might go hard at him but that's not uncommon.
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True. On the other hand, it's also easier to walk away when you get to keep the player.
Overall the stakes are a lot higher though when your dealing with a generational talent #1 pick. Nobody wants to screw it up such as NM walking away from a good deal and getting crap, or PA offering too much and JHF doesn't develop as expected.
Anyway, that's why the list managers are paid the big bucks I guess.
Fine JHF takes extended leave for mental health reasons, we keep pick8 and lose a 1st Rd pick next year for The Hornet.
Leaves Donuts to sink or swim without mortgaging our immediate future.
You gotta take risks this is the exact type of risk you must take.
That would be amazing, Rozee would probably go 30 disposals and 4 goals every game
The ever changing value of Matt Crouch in the media where he can be used to make any deal happen for any price never ceases to make me laugh.Was a piss take ? Sorry play on
I think two firsts are fair and even two firsts and Bonner (for JHF alone). Other picks or players add to risk that you won't be able to address depth or deficiencies over the next few years or even this year (for Rioli etc.). I think our team has earned the trust to make the right deal. Although... I trust them at the draft more than I do at the trade table. I think that's part of the disconnect here. Our supporters rate draft picks more than maybe North do because our team has been so good over the years at getting value from the draft. That's why I don't want to see Sinn go. I think our team has runs on the board when it comes to talent identification, above average.
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What's the Latin for "I came, I saw, I waited an eternity for a trade to happen"?
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