List Mgmt. Jeremy Cameron traded to Geelong

[GoGeta]

He is 28 In the first month of next season coming off a poor year. many great key fowards peaks have been over by the age of 28. Hawkins is the odd one out.

Geez dude, are you always this pessimistic?

 

[you pick one]

Same height as Paddy Ryder.

I'd forgot all about Ryder forgot he even existed one game against Geelong in 5 years,but you are right same size but can't see Sav getting to that level

 

[catempire]

I'd forgot all about Ryder forgot he even existed one game against Geelong in 5 years,but you are right same size but can't see Sav getting to that level

It’s unlikely he will be as good as Ryder but that won’t be height related.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

We won't know their cap levels... so chances are our offer can be matched if for example they back end their deal...

You have to match it down to the payments. If we have 850k for him in year 1 and they can't reshuffle then they can't match

 

[Strange Cat]

Reckon Pies will come for Ratagolea now

They can’t afford anyone at this stage

 

[strauchnyy]

Just structure the contract so they can’t match.

He’s not staying with them.. we should be in a position to force it through FA.

But... I feel we might be ‘nice’ enough to do a danger deal. Even danger was a first and a second. A handshake arrangement that trading for a FA is not worth as much as a non FA.

There is no scenario where we’re giving multiple round 1s or good young players. Laughable.

 

[Giant Pete]

You have to match it down to the payments. If we have 850k for him in year 1 and they can't reshuffle then they can't match

We can match. Matthews already said.

 

[Nickoo]

Wow wow wow

I loved when Dangerfield confirmed he wanted to come home and play for Geelong

But Cameron is a bigger FA acquisition - this isn't a player who wants to return home & the region, or play with his brother etc, such as we've Dangerfield, Scooter, Henderson etc

Now too see how this plays out

His folks have moved to Geelong I believe.


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[strauchnyy]

We can match. Matthews already said.

Let’s.hear your list manager after the dust has settled. Your CEO is not the guy you should be banking on.. especially when he’s chest beating on emotion 5 mins after it’s announced

 

[year of the cat]

They can’t afford anyone at this stage

If Treloar leaves they can.

 

[Strange Cat]

Please stop I can only get so erect

Just a little bit more I’m nearly there....

 

[catempire]

Just structure the contract so they can’t match.

I think we covered this with Dangerfield. I believe the rule is that only the total dollars over the whole contract need to fit within GWS cap, regardless of how Geelong’s contract offer is structured. So if Geelong offers:

$1m
$1m
$500k
$500k
$500k

GWS only need to have the cap space to offer $700k x 5.

 

[Nickoo]

Don't get me wrong im so bloody happy but I wish he could of waited till after the Grand Final to announce it...

GWS forced him to announce apparently. Not sure why but they wanted clarity so they can do other stuff.


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[Kyuss]

Wonder if it is just a bit of posturing from GWS. Trying to spook us into trading ala Dangerfield.. "we will likely match" not we WILL match.
All this time the reports were our offer was better than GWS's

Ideal world we get him and keep our picks.

But assuming GWS can match and they don't go with the Essendon guide to trading, there are positives to trading. Mainly we don't ruin our pay structure and find ourselves in Collingwoods position of cap issues. Meaning we keep together players we want longer. And prolong people saying "How do Geelong pay for all these players"
Sometimes there is a bigger picture to keep in mind.

Either way I trust Wells to do the right thing.

 

[catempire]

We can match. Matthews already said.

Wouldn’t be much of a businessman if he didn’t say that. And we know it to be bluster because he doesn’t know what Geelong’s offer is.

 

[STPer18]

I'll take him.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

We can match. Matthews already said.

The cats have almost no committed money for 2022. If we put forward a contract you can match then it's because we were being nice

 

[strauchnyy]

I think we covered this with Dangerfield. I believe the rule is that only the total dollars over the whole contract need to fit within GWS cap, regardless of how Geelong’s contract offer is structured. So if Geelong offers:

$1m
$1m
$500k
$500k
$500k

GWS only need to have the cap space to offer $700k x 5.

I dont think that’s right. Needs to be same $ and years.

We have a great opportunity to be ruthless and pay nothing. Whether we decide to be the nice guys ala danger, is another qs.

We need to hold onto our R1s

 

[Strange Cat]

Hell of a couple of days for the club

Going to be a hell of a week to remember if it goes all right from here on

 

[Shadow89]

Geez dude, are you always this pessimistic?

It is absolutely no surprise that Seeds is annoyed Jeremy Cameron

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Jeremy Cameron

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31

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196cm

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94kg

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4.6

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is coming to us. Probably still annoyed we scored so highly against Brissie and Collingwood without Ratugolea, and that we dropped Atkins - all things that went against his 'club is in turmoil' narrative

 

[catempire]

I dont think that’s right. Needs to be same $ and years.

We have a great opportunity to be ruthless and pay nothing. Whether we decide to be the nice guys ala danger, is another qs.

We need to hold onto our R1s

I’ll dig out the rule when the kids are in bed. I’m right.

 

[Giant Pete]

Wouldn’t be much of a businessman if he didn’t say that. And we know it to be bluster because he doesn’t know what Geelong’s offer is.

Of course he knows Geelongs offer.

 

[strauchnyy]

I’ll dig out the rule when the kids are in bed. I’m right.

Even if you’re right, reports are that there is a gap to what we’re offering.

They need to have the $ to match. Their cap is tight and apparently they weren’t able to go up. So that would indicate they can’t match... or they would have offered it already. Is their ceo just chest beating?

 

[strauchnyy]

Of course he knows Geelongs offer.

Dave Matthews likes to chest beat

 

[Nickoo]

I assume if they (can) match we will need to part with two of our three firsts.

Is that right? Do we need to give them anything as they’ll get compo from AFL and have not chosen to match - not sure on match. With Danger we did right by Adelaide. Didn’t have to but did anyway.


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