List Mgmt. Jeremy Cameron traded to Geelong

[Shadow89]

I think we covered this with Dangerfield. I believe the rule is that only the total dollars over the whole contract need to fit within GWS cap, regardless of how Geelong’s contract offer is structured. So if Geelong offers:

$1m
$1m
$500k
$500k
$500k

GWS only need to have the cap space to offer $700k x 5.

Have to disagree with this, given that Carlton front-loaded the ever loving crap out of Martin's contract, so that they could take him in the PSD - given that no-one could match it. From what I understand, the EXACT terms of the contract, have to be fulfilled, hence the obsession with 'front-loading' contracts that's hypothesized by posters looking to attain would be traded in players.

With that said, we're just not that type of club, and Wells just isn't that type of person. If we feel it's going to be an issue, we'll probably trade and work out something that's beneficial for all. Who knows, might even get O'Halloran too? Doesn't really bother me though, given that we got Pick 11 for essentially nothing last year, and an extra pick I didn't expect from TK trade. If that's what we give up, then all we've done is given up TK for Cooper Stephens and Jeremy Cameron

5

Jeremy Cameron

Age

31

Ht

196cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.6

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.0

5star

. Can't complain about that

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

Iv got a feeling they will push Sav into maybe focusing him into playing Ruck...

I've got a feeling Sav will be traded. He might even go to GWS as part of the Cameron trade.

 

[Turbocat]

I think we covered this with Dangerfield. I believe the rule is that only the total dollars over the whole contract need to fit within GWS cap, regardless of how Geelong’s contract offer is structured. So if Geelong offers:

$1m
$1m
$500k
$500k
$500k

GWS only need to have the cap space to offer $700k x 5.

Yep it gets averaged...

 

[Turbocat]

Have to disagree with this, given that Carlton front-loaded the ever loving crap out of Martin's contract, so that they could take him in the PSD - given that no-one could match it. From what I understand, the EXACT terms of the contract, have to be fulfilled, hence the obsession with 'front-loading' contracts that's hypothesized by posters looking to attain would be traded in players.

With that said, we're just not that type of club, and Wells just isn't that type of person. If we feel it's going to be an issue, we'll probably trade and work out something that's beneficial for all. Who knows, might even get O'Halloran too? Doesn't really bother me though, given that we got Pick 11 for essentially nothing last year, and an extra pick I didn't expect from TK trade. If that's what we give up, then all we've done is given up TK for Cooper Stephens and Jeremy Cameron

5

Jeremy Cameron

Age

31

Ht

196cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.6

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.0

5star

. Can't complain about that

PSD is different to comp for FA

 

[catempire]

Of course he knows Geelongs offer.

How so?

 

[MacStradbroke]

See thats how you need luck - when the final pieces of the Jigsaw are required

Geel were desperate for a key forward - i can remember that picture of Scarlett Ling and a few others sitting down having coffee with Rawlings trying to convince him to come to Geel . If he had of chosen Geel ( and he was a disaster at the W/Bulldogs ) then Geel wouldnt have got Ottens - they wouldnt have had the money and picks to get him

RE Jade Rawlings

Jade Rawlings

Age

47

Ht

196cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.9

5star

T

0.8

3star

G

0.6

4star

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D

4.6

1star

K

3.8

2star

HB

0.8

1star

M

2.6

3star

T

0.4

3star

G

1.8

5star

knocking back Geelongs approach - was like standing in front of the firing squad - and all the bullets missed .[/PLAYERCARD][/B]

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Deledio too. Bullet dodged.

 

[catman2006]

Even if you’re right, reports are that there is a gap to what we’re offering.

They need to have the $ to match. Their cap is tight and apparently they weren’t able to go up. So that would indicate they can’t match... or they would have offered it already. Is their ceo just chest beating?

They do need to save a little face as they screwed their TPP to be in this position in the first place

 

[Grimoz]

If all the GWS fans are so sure they will match then why the **** didnt you give him what he wanted in the first place, makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, still wouldnt come up even after you screwed him out of money and by all reports he wanted to stay.

 

[Strange Cat]

If Treloar leaves they can.

Don’t see it happening personally

 

[MacStradbroke]

He will also have the advantage of being number 2 and not 1 for the first time

This is a very important part of the trade that I am sure formed some part of his decision.

 

[ReebusMaximus]

Geelong 2021

Out: Son of God
In: JC

 

[Turbocat]

Giants get a compo pick and we still have to do a trade?

no ..one or the other

 

[And_ROOS]

I've got a feeling Sav will be traded. He might even go to GWS as part of the Cameron trade.

Wouldn't completely hate that, but would mean we absolutely MUST get a back up ruck via PSD or draft someone through a state league.

Is there a back up ruck in Perth that WCE have their eyes on that we can get 2 or 3 first rounders for in 2 years time>

 

[Biscut]

COME ON GLADYS TIME TO OPEN UP THE BORDERS SO I CAN DRIVE UP THERE AND GIVE THE BIG FELLA A LIFT TO HIS NEW DIGS

its ok. I’m in Sydney so I’ll bring him down to the border and you can drive him to Cat land!

 

[Strange Cat]

Hawkins is going to be daydreaming about an easier few years with less defenders on him

This is going to be mad..and then throw in Danger down there

Good ****ing luck to any of the defenders next year

 

[Turbocat]

I assume if they (can) match we will need to part with two of our three firsts.

I suspect it will involve our R1 from next year... this draft is too affected at the backend of the R1. ..and one from this year.

 

[Gunf]

I suspect it will involve our R1 from next year... this draft is too affected at the backend of the R1. ..and one from this year.

13 and 18/19 should be the most we are offering if they match
And i am not against trading for FA but it is rather funny that we will be the first and probably second to do so

 

[Turbocat]

Also;
As much as I don't really want to lose him I heard Freo might give us Pick 7 for Clark.

In. 7, 11, 15, 18, Cameron, Couch, Higgins
Out. Clark

I could live with that but think Couch is now out that Cameron is in.

freo do not have P7

 

[Turbocat]

13 and 18/19 should be the most we are offering if they match

why?... Its all in.. now ..

 

[MacStradbroke]

Loving the salty tears from everyone. They all forget we lost the GOAT at the height of his powers to one of these AFL made clubs and we were a pretty decent side at the time. Richmond got Lynch a year after they won a flag, Collingwood took Treloar, Adams and Hoskin Elliot and that is OK, but apperently free agency is killing the game because Cameron wants to get to Geelong. Swings and roundabouts I say.

I could not be happier or prouder to be a Geelong Football Club supporter right now. Go the mighty Cats!!!!

Pies also got Beams from the Lions. (I could barely type that without laughing)

 

[catempire]

Here it is strauchnyy and Shadow89 - it’s rule 17.5(m). The effect of this is that even if GWS doesn’t have the TPP space for the structure of the Geelong contract they can still match the identical terms of the Geelong contract and Cameron receives those identical terms but the allocation can be averaged under the TPP.

 

[Gunf]

why?... Its all in.. now ..

I am all for going all in for Cameron but that doesn't mean giving up everything i mean 13 and 18 is a fairly good deal considering if they don't match they get 10 hell i would even throw in a future second if that is what it takes.

 

[catempire]

freo do not have P7

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No wonder they’re willing to part with it.

 

[Jimmy Willis Jawline]

 

[strauchnyy]

Here it is strauchnyy and Shadow89 - it’s rule 17.5(m). The effect of this is that even if GWS doesn’t have the TPP space for the structure of the Geelong contract they can still match the identical terms of the Geelong contract and Cameron receives those identical terms but the allocation can be averaged under the TPP.

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Cheers, but what if they can’t afford the total $?

They would have offered more if they could.. so how can they match if they don’t have the space...