Agree, it’s lame af
Rumour Jessie Hogan Out Indefinitely for Mental Health Reasons.
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Seems to be Australian athletes, and not just AFL players. Something needs fixing on how these players are been conditioned to be a professional sportsperson.
All this ‘go home to family and friends’ and ‘mental health issues’ doesn’t seem to be a factor in most other sports around the world.
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Agreed
We're also one of the very few countries that have junior sport not have ladders or keep scores. Then these kids become adults and can't handle the pressure...funny that
Our under 10's soccer doesn't have a ladder. Luton Town under 8's go to Spain for tournaments against clubs from around Europe. How babied are our kids compared to the rest of the world?
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I wish we could go back 24 months to the shit fights over who was better between Joey and Jesse, both have had a terrible 2 years for differing reasons.
Kids play sport for fun mate. The reason why some comps choose not to have ladders is because of overbearing adults who act like winning is everything. Much more important is teaching kids the skills, teaching them to get along with their peers and getting them to thrive in a team environment. Not having ladders doesnt mean they are being babied. They will have heaps of chances later for serious competition.
Oliver > Parish though
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That was fun as well.
It doesn't seem to be a factor because you don't hear about it. It doesn't matter whether you are an Australian sportsman or a sportsman from any country. Mental health has no discrimination. It is just as prevalent everywhere in the world. There would be many sportsman who have mental health issues that choose not to tell the whole world about it. One positive thing is at least Some Australian sportsman are being open about it, which can only benefit others.
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Boy do I have some things to tell you about the 60s and 70s! (Not that I was there)
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As soon as a kid can count, they can keep score. It's ridiculous not to at any age. This attitude doesn't exactly help the next generation for the real world does it.
A soccer club here had a football director over from Germany to have a look at their program and give advice. He laughed at juniors not keeping score, couldn't comprehend it. Not only are we falling behind the rest of the world in many sports, but it's also important to teach kids they don't always win. Being a gracious loser and bouncing back from it are more important I'd argue. We're getting less resilient as a society, maybe this has something to do with it?
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1st off, Colin Sylvia wasnt a High risk trade. He was a free agent. So we didnt trade a couple of 1st rounders for him. Secondly, you know he is dead right?
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I'd say it is a bit more rampant personally. I didn't know too many people dropping acid and pills straight out of high school, now I'm surprised if anyone isn't. There's a lot more festivals and a lot more punters than there were 20 years ago, and it's way easier to score drugs than ever too. IMO.
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I know quite a few who were out of high school 15 years ago.
Do agree it's easier than ever to get which probably means it's cut with even more dodgy sh1t than it used to be causing more risk...
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In 2016 the weekly question posed to guests on "On the Couch" was who would you rather out of Jesse Hogan and Jake Stringer. After 2015 they were the two hottest commodities in the league. Neither have really progressed for different reasons.
Anyway best wishes to Jesse. For someone who has his talent and left us in his prime, you still wouldn't find many Dees fans that don't wish him well. He's had a tough run.
Maybe it’s becoming more acceptable in Australian sport to take time off for mental health, more so than it not being a factor elsewhere.
Eagles fans have pretty short memories that 2/3rds of their playing list from late 90s til now give themselves a drug induced cleft palate.
Oh right mate, I see your point. My post was more about having official ladders for kids aged about 10. But as for not keeping the scores, I am surprised with that. I agree with you that being taught to be a gracious loser is extremely important that age. Some kids get too easily upset when they lose. As long as the main focus is kids having fun out there and improving, I don't see anything wrong with keeping the scores. Can't you still tell the kids the score anyway?
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If you take leave for mental health in other big leagues around the world you'll be left behind and someone else will take your spot it's that competitive.
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Yeah and we still get reemed over it so why does Freo get a pass ?
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Hope the guy can get the help he needs, mental health issues are a curse to anybody who has them and it sucks how badly it takes over your life, lived with mental health problems for a long time now and I've worked on them and have become significantly better over the past couple of years with the right support and help, and I know Jesse would be able to do the same if he gets help. It's gonna be a rough few days for Jesse with people likely targeting him on social media and likely saying it's all crap (people who don't know anything about mental health) but hopefully he can get back to playing some good footy as soon as possible.
Beer makes me bloated and tired. Then sometimes I fall asleep, or if I eat a lot too I vomit. Also to get to this state which can sometimes be fun, it costs me heaps as pints are like anywhere between $9-$15. I also wake up with a pretty nasty hangover.
If I take drugs, say an MD Cap like Jesse was on in the famous Snapchat (I think), it costs me $20-$25 and keeps me buzzing socially for 2-4 hours. If I don't take it too far I can sleep no worries and wake up pretty fresh.
Hope this helps with your question.
Everything? It's not like he's killed anyone. He's a guy in his early 20's not making the most of his footy career at the moment. A very minor 'crime' in the grand scheme of things, and I dare say going through what he has been through in the past few years is a valid contributor to it.
Some are carrying on in here like he's Pol Pot.
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More like overbearing adults who have no concept of the realities of the real world and haven't taught their kids they don't get to win everything.
You're acting like this isn't the generation where parents come in to school to yell at the teachers for he behaviour and failings of their kids.
You really think kids are going to be 'thriving' in a team environment when they have not experienced losing before?
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Too ****ing expensive.
