Rumour Jessie Hogan Out Indefinitely for Mental Health Reasons.

[Toump Ass]

It’s not a drug to be trifled with though and the fact that it’s illegal outside that environment means that what people call mdma at street level could be a combo of anything under the sun.

Every drug has it's risks, but as far as it goes, MDMA is pretty safe. Fatalities usually involve a combination of factors, and most of the deaths in this country would have been prevented if the person who died a) sought medical treatment early or b) didn't punch a handful of pills the moment they saw a sniffer dog at a shitty festival.

And as far as purity goes, IMO it's pretty good: online marketplaces make buying the drug easy, so you can't really get away with selling shitty mdma by the ounce because people won't buy it- there's better options.

Not saying there's not crappy pills around but they're more likely to do nothing than **** you up, and I daresay most people wouldn't spend long looking for a half-decent dealer.

 

[Proper Gander]

Every drug has it's risks, but as far as it goes, MDMA is pretty safe. Fatalities usually involve a combination of factors, and most of the deaths in this country would have been prevented if the person who died a) sought medical treatment early or b) didn't punch a handful of pills the moment they saw a sniffer dog at a shitty festival.

And as far as purity goes, IMO it's pretty good: online market places make buying the drug easy, so you can't really get away with selling shitty mdma by the ounce because people won't buy it- there's better options.

Not saying there's not crappy pills around but they're more likely to do nothing than fu** you up, and I daresay most people wouldn't spend long looking for a half-decent dealer.

Liked for truth.

 

[La Dispute]

What do you mean by existential horrors?

What is the point of my life type introspection?

Best case you’ll have a bit of mild sadness or you might not have any at all, worst case you’ll question the complexion of your life and I even used to have some pretty self-defeating thoughts. (“You’re doing eccies with strangers because you’re miserable” etc)

A lot depends on the general quality of your life, and you can see why doing pingers regularly is especially bad for someone like Jesse Hogan.

 

[Yoey]

Ahh look at all the "I'm Offended" pc flogs espousing their holier than thou virtue signalling. It's going to be a sweat day when the rest of the majority strike up the guts to fight back against you socialist morons.

 

[Turnover]

Ahh look at all the "I'm Offended" pc flogs espousing their holier than thou virtue signalling. It's going to be a sweat day when the rest of the majority strike up the guts to fight back against you socialist morons.

Be careful of the heat tomorrow, snowflakes tend to melt, in your case it will finish you off.

 

[Yoey]

Be careful of the heat tomorrow, snowflakes tend to melt, in your case it will finish you off.

Only 24 here tomorrow, go back to your keyboard ya knob jockey.

 

[Turnover]

Only 24 here tomorrow, go back to your keyboard ya knob jockey.

Nice. Hopefully no wind and fishing will be good.

 

[Soprano661]

aren’t they using MDMA to treat PTSD?

They are using ketamine to treat depression

 

[MadMundy]

Why can't everyone in this thread just get along instead of turning this into a shitfight? Can't we call just get together to support a bloke going through a tough time? Not that hard.

 

[WillHayward]

It's just baffling how many people are out there that stigma-tise mental health. Even if drugs were in the question, people use it as an escape simply because they're not in a good place. Some of the nuffies on here seem to think it's the opposite?

More complex that that.

Mental health is the main issue.

Jesse has had a very difficult lot of circumstances to deal with. None of his making.

But

Treatment is available and clubbing and party drugs do make things worse. They are not part of a treatment plan.

 

[Minidisc MD]

Bell is astute. he said no. was overruled by Ross Lyon and Rosich knowing he was a messiah. or if he wasn't, who cares, job's lost anyway.

The guy is obsessed with drugs and a shit campaigner of a bloke. same with McCarthy. treat the average person like low level morons yet pull these stunts on 800k. cannot tell you how often they're rolling around with ugly skanks out the front of the Old Synagogue.

 

[Minidisc MD]

The man lost his father to cancer, saw his brother fight cancer and had it himself and then has experienced 2 serious foot injuries, yet apparently it’s impossible for him to be having mental health issues. This forum amazes me sometimes

I went to school with a girl who found her dad hanging when she was 7, her brother die of cancer when he was 10, and lost her mum in a road track accident and was the oldest and had to identify the body. she likes the odd pinga and beer but is on 45k at CBH and doesn't piss and moan. we all face adversity. it's not grounds for depression ffs. like death and suffering is part of the human condition.

 

[Minidisc MD]

Why can't everyone in this thread just get along instead of turning this into a shitfight? Can't we call just get together to support a bloke going through a tough time? Not that hard.

Kooombaya my lord, kumbaya

 

[Crankitup]

 

[GatesOfHell]

Every drug has it's risks, but as far as it goes, MDMA is pretty safe. Fatalities usually involve a combination of factors, and most of the deaths in this country would have been prevented if the person who died a) sought medical treatment early or b) didn't punch a handful of pills the moment they saw a sniffer dog at a shitty festival.

And as far as purity goes, IMO it's pretty good: online marketplaces make buying the drug easy, so you can't really get away with selling shitty mdma by the ounce because people won't buy it- there's better options.

Not saying there's not crappy pills around but they're more likely to do nothing than fu** you up, and I daresay most people wouldn't spend long looking for a half-decent dealer.

Pill reports analyses by police and unofficial channels in Australia say otherwise. Our youths are popping impure e’s and crappy coke. Even in cases where the product is reasonably pure, it’s long term effects are still incredibly harmful.

You know that feeling on Tuesday and Wednesday morning when you’d rather stay in a dark room and eat a dog poo sandwich than draw the curtains and face the world? When you start crying into your pillow and visualising a leap off the Rialto? That’s those powders and pingers rewiring neural pathways and adjusting sensitive serotonin and adrenal levels in your brain.

Mess around with that part of your anatomy at your peril. It’s very far from safe to do so.

 

[JammoMonty]

Bell is astute. he said no. was overruled by Ross Lyon and Rosich knowing he was a messiah. or if he wasn't, who cares, job's lost anyway.

The guy is obsessed with drugs and a shit campaigner of a bloke. same with McCarthy. treat the average person like low level morons yet pull these stunts on 800k. cannot tell you how often they're rolling around with ugly skanks out the front of the Old Synagogue.

*Lyon/Bell didn’t want to do this trade. It was carried over the line by Rosich.

*Not obsessed, uses it as a tool to numb the pain.

*Has a 600k base salary.

*Old Synagogue birds are

 

[JammoMonty]

Freo fans should be ropable that Bell was fully aware of the extent of Hogan’s off field issues yet went ahead and forked over pick 5 and massive money for him anyway. This was always going to end in tears. Gross mismanagement by admin.

Beams? Buddy? Fasolo?

 

[JammoMonty]

Jeff Farmer was one of their better trades
What about Dezi mate what a fu** up.
Picks 5,21 McPharlane and Cupido for Dezi cripes

McPharlin? Wrong trade.

 

[JammoMonty]

The losing a family member thing doesn't really excuse much, it's sad of course but in the normal course of most people's lives they will first lose their grandparents and then parents with some being a bit earlier or later then others. It's life. I would be absolutely gutted if I lost my Dad, I would have days, maybe a couple of weeks off work then I would be back. Pretty much like every other person who has a job.

Injury is pretty similar, there's not a week that goes by that someone in my company doesn't have some sort of operation/injury/sickness. Hips, knee's, shoulders, ankles etc. work helps out and makes life easier of course and they come back to work, and Jesse would get and he has the advantage of having the best DR's ,Physio's, Dietitians etc to help him get better.

But anyone can get mental health issue, people with perfect lives can have them and people who's life is shit have no mental problems at all. My point is I don't think you can really say, "look what happened to him, of course he has mental health issues." Especially when it's just standard stuff you expect in life.

Oh and other people have touched on this before, we've got to a point where anytime anyone is out of line they blame mental health. Have a bender, mental health. Get in a fight, mental health. Bang your mates missus, mental health. It's starting to lose it's zing, it's not fair to genuine cases but there it is.

“It's life. I would be absolutely gutted if I lost my Dad, I would have days, maybe a couple of weeks off work then I would be back.”

If only all professional sports people could be as strong as you mate.

How’s the brick laying business going?

 

[JammoMonty]

He’s back on the darts and having a few cold ones.

Rance is back on Higgins and saying a few prayers.

 

[Maylandsman]

Rance is back on Higgins and saying a few prayers.

how exciting. is hogan bringing some rollies and a slab

 

[RichLeMonde]

20sumthings are popping pingers these days like they’re tic-tacs, toying with sensitive brain chemistry the long term effects of which are unknown. And who knows what other harmful foreign substances these things are cut with down the line so scumbag dealers can turn a profit. People are playing Russian Roulette with their mental health every weekend. It’s mainstream and it’s an epidemic.

I had about 30 friends who were on the pingers about 10-20 times/year for much of their 20s. None of them ever lost a job, a friendship, got in a fight, damaged property, went to hospital, etc etc. It had no harmful impact on their lives at all. If someone parties to the extent that it is having a destructive effective on their life, they almost have mental health issues by definition, since such risk-taking, destructive behaviour is not normal.

 

[JammoMonty]

I had about 30 friends who were on the pingers about 10-20 times/year for much of their 20s. None of them ever lost a job, a friendship, got in a fight, damaged property, went to hospital, etc etc. It had no harmful impact on their lives at all. If someone parties to the extent that it is having a destructive effective on their life, they almost have mental health issues by definition, since such risk-taking, destructive behaviour is not normal.

Well said Jake King

 

[GatesOfHell]

I had about 30 friends who were on the pingers about 10-20 times/year for much of their 20s. None of them ever lost a job, a friendship, got in a fight, damaged property, went to hospital, etc etc. It had no harmful impact on their lives at all. If someone parties to the extent that it is having a destructive effective on their life, they almost have mental health issues by definition, since such risk-taking, destructive behaviour is not normal.

Unless you have conducted an in depth study of these 30 peoples’ minds and lives, or are extremely clairvoyant, I highly doubt you would know that it “had no harmful impact on their life at all”. Friends will often not tell even their closest friends and colleagues that they are seeing a shrink or have been prescribed anti-depressants. There’s still a huge stigma associated with this.

Between 10-12% of our population is taking mood stabilising medication of some variety. Around 3 million Australians. Think about that for a moment.

 

[RichLeMonde]

Well said Jake King

Actually we are all university educated with professional jobs. And about 2 out of 30 have tatts