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But it is just talk. There are no facts available - yet.

"Hmm sample A was Gatorade and sample B is Red Bull. We have a problem."

True regarding the facts, Ryan Daniels is a reporter that i trust however.

I'm pretty sure the 2nd sample was urine.

Its an out of game day test at god knows what time. Young bloke probably been out enjoying himself with his mates and gets annoyed by these clowns and probably thought he'd **** around with them without fully understanding the consequences.

We've all been young (some of you still are obviously) but if it was a pissed up error of judgement then it should've been handled way better than this.
 
True regarding the facts, Ryan Daniels is a reporter that i trust however.

I'm pretty sure the 2nd sample was urine.

Its an out of game day test at god knows what time. Young bloke probably been out enjoying himself with his mates and gets annoyed by these clowns and probably thought he'd fu** around with them without fully understanding the consequences.

We've all been young (some of you still are obviously) but if it was a pi**ed up error of judgement then it should've been handled way better than this.

Unlikely to be a prank. Seems more like panic. Though I do wonder if maybe Rioli has some anxiety issues because if I was worried I might fail a drug test tipping a sports drink into the sample is probably not my first stop.
 
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Unlikely to be a prank. Seems more like panic. Though I do wonder if maybe Rioli has some anxiety issues because if I was worried I might fail a drug test tipping a sports drink into the sample is probably nor my first stop.

At what point does panic not become panic? How do you measure that as either way it would be deliberate?
 
What is going on ? If the sample is other than urine, why has it taken since August 20 to be identified ? Why has he been notified 1 day before an elimination final ? Why would Rioli be in a "good" place if he knew he produced something other than his urine ? Absolutely astounding all round. Hope the young man is ok.
 
sorry for the intrusion

really feel for Rioli - Hope he gets the fair treatment and process due that we are not afforded when we were in the shit. Hopefully the media are a bit more respectable too.

doesnt seem like the type of bloke who would be doing dodgy shit.
 
Good post.

So what you are essentially saying is that he didnt provide the sample in front of an ASADA official.

Would you agree if all the samples have been provided in front of ASADA, then something really dodgy has taken place?
That's what I think is most likely. As past players have pointed out, "wtf, how did this happen?!". It's very unusual.

Willie, piss into this jar
I can't piss
We'll wait
Why you want to look at my junk?
We don't, we're ASADA, these are the rules of the sport, you club has educated you about this
I get stage fright so I can't piss
That's fine, sooner or later, you won't be able to hold it in and we'll be here
You know what, this is against my culture, I'm not showing you my junk, give me the jar and some privacy
we can't do that
well, f-you <walks over, grabs bottle of powerade, poor it in jar and presents it to them>
We can't accept that
That's all you're getting
Just so you're clear, as soon as we take that, that will be your sample, if it tests for powerade then you will face the maximum penalty. Can you reconsider?
No
Okay, last chance, can we get you to piss into this new jar
No
Suit yourself, we'll write it up and send it for testing



My guess is some sort of scenario like that. You see this sort of stuff sometimes on RBT when people don't want to provide a sample. I hope I'm wrong because he's probably my favourite player after Paddy Cripps.
 
One thing I don't understand is riolis demeanour about this. If he was caught tampering 3 weeks ago, he would have been pretty devastated mentally for a good while. But instead he is only emotional about it after the media announcement.

Did he think he got away with it or something?

"My urine is naturally carbonated!"

But yeah it boggles the mind how he thought everything was going to fine.
 
If he left the sample alone, he would have just got a strike like everyone else and this would be confidential. 4 years will be career ending for Riolli. He will be 130kgs by then.
Assuming it was an illicit drug. Maybe it was on the banned list of enhancement drugs (assuming it comes back with a positive result). Remember the weight loss pills Warnies mum gave him? Maybe Willie took something like that?

Who knows, this will take a long time to play out and for the truth to come out- if it ever fully does.
 

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Guys not here to wind anyone up but imo ASADA have a massive case to answer here.

The talk is that the sample provided was powerade. Whilst ASADA are viewing the player providing the sample they apparently give no instruction to the player other than to provide. If they witness the player providing a false sample (water/drink/other urine) then they simply seal it and send it as if its any other sample. For mine that' an absolute joke. If a player does that, then they shouud be provisionally suspended on the spot, its the same as refusing a breath test with the police.

However its been reported that he provided a second sample. Now when testing, the 1 sample is split into A & B. What is going to happen with the second sample he provided? Will they even test that?

If that's the case (and this is how I roughly believe it happened) then all is needed is for ASADA to review their policy and make a change.

He played two games which were of nil influence. Sure they should have seen this loophole and pre-empted it. Now they've seen this flaw, they just have to change their policy.

This is a tiny story compared to the one of a player potentially using PEDs. If PEDs infiltrate the sport in a large way then the sport is compromised. PED's and organised spot fixing are the two big threats to any sporting code.
 
This whole thing stinks of incompetence from ASADA. How the hell this things broken, with so many holes in the story is bizarre to me. Who the hell knows what he was thinking. Only time will tell, but it seems like mindblowing stupidity on his behalf as well.

I hope your club can have it handled swiftly and with some respect for Rioli. Watching the constant dramas that have come out of my club, I hope you blokes can sort it out quick.
 
sorry for the intrusion

really feel for Rioli - Hope he gets the fair treatment and process due that we are not afforded when we were in the s**t. Hopefully the media are a bit more respectable too.

doesnt seem like the type of bloke who would be doing dodgy s**t.
Dont compare systematic club doping to possibly one guy. All courts found essendon guilty. Stop saying it wasnt a fair process.
 
It seems that no matter what, willie is in some serious strife, by his own doing. I sadly think this may ultimately mean curtains for his career.

I just hope he gets the support he needs, people make mistakes and he will pay for this in a big way. Theres just no reason for the general public to add to that, lets hope we can all rally behind him.

I can only imagine that some fans will turn on him should we lose tonight. A win tonight somehow feels so much more significant then it did 24 hrs ago.
 
Lot of pressure on Simpson and the club tonight.

Lot of pressure. You gotta rise above it Vozzo, you gotta harness the good energy and block out the bad. Harness energy, block bad. Feel the flow, feel it, it’s circular. Its like a carousel. You pay the quarter, you get on the horse, and you go up and down and around…in a circular circle with the music, the flow, all good things.
Psycho.
 
The herald sun saying he was caught red handed pouring something into the sample and so the report was lodged straight away. That meant they didn't need to do all the analysis and were able to move to suspend in double quick time.

Honestly though if you are the tester and you see that happen anyone with any decency tells Riolli that they have seen him and what the implications are before getting an untainted sample. Who keeps their mouth shut just so they can guarantee the maximum penalty? I wouldn't be surprised if Willy has just had a toke of weed and panicked.
 

This is looking bad, real bad.

If this is true it means Willie had been caught red handed, basically knew he was screwed, and (even though it's his right to), didn't say anything to the club prior to yesterday


This just looks worse by the second
 

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