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Finlayson, M.Kennedy, Setterfield and Zac Williams were all GWS academy players who requested trades interstate. The academy system isn’t a solution to player retention issues.
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Traded Jordan Dawson traded to Adelaide for F1 (Melb)
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Finlayson, M.Kennedy, Setterfield and Zac Williams were all GWS academy players who requested trades interstate. The academy system isn’t a solution to player retention issues.
SSwans2011
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No doubt, so has Parker. But I view it with a similar lens as Mills. It was widely known/assumed by Swans fans that as soon as we pulled the trigger on Mills into the midfield, he would become our most important midfielder. We finally saw that happen this year.
It's the same case with Dawson. We've known he's been ready to be pushed up the ground and become one of our best players since 2019. Lethal left boot, seriously strong contested marking game, elite decision making, he's always had all the right tools. Much like Mills, it was just a matter of getting to a point where our defence could bare the cost of losing him, which finally happened once Blakey and McInerney were moved back there.
It wasn't any surprise to Swans fans that once the trigger was pulled on Dawson that, much like Mills, he became a gun midfielder. So to an outsider, it might seem like it was only with the move to the midfield that Dawson reached that next level, but it's sort of been viewed as an inevitability by Swans fans for a few years now.
I don't think either sets of fans will agree on his value, because Swans fans have the added context of knowing that Dawson was capable of his performances on a wing, which across a full year would have been AA-standard, long before the move was actually made.
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Would be double down on the PSD strategy…..
not sure Dawson would love that thou…. First pick being 33
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If so, it would have meant that the best deal we could then have put to Dawson was a future 2nd rounder or PSD. Shows where the real priority was methinks
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Negotiating in good faith... Righteo
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Getting a bit nervous about now?....you've talked the big game so how's the confidence now?
SSwans2011
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Geez, I know JHF is good, but I don't know how he's worth two likely top 5 picks and another first rounder, while Dawson is only apparently worth a late first rounder with pick swaps in Adelaide's favour.
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No…. just negotiating in the same “good faith” that sydney currently is…
Membling
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Looks like you were not willing or able to meet us in the middle. That seems disingenous at best.
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And so you should be...
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Nup…. Thats a ridiculously over the top amount to pay for a bloke thats never played a game at afl level…
Especially considering the crows have already given up 23, 36, 44 and 60 and 62 for the dees pick (and 33 back)
Would be basically 4, crows 2022 1st, dees 2022 1st and all the picks to get it.. all for 1 player whos proven nothing!…
So glad north said no!..
SSwans2011
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Or, you know, maybe we're just asking for close to the value that we actually rate Dawson at.
We have literally zero history of being campaigners at the trade table. Look at what we let Aliir, Jones, Membrey, Nankervis, and Mitchell go for. We're usually very reasonable at the trade table, and I don't think the club is negotiating in 'bad faith'. I think they're trying to get a deal at close to what they perceive Dawson's worth is.
It's not like either club are firing missiles at one another either. For all we know, talks could have been entirely amicable to this point.
Least you're self-aware, I guess.
Adelaide can decided to do whatever it wants with the draft picks it owns. That does not mean it is not negotiating in good faith
Membling
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Adelaide trying to do the right thing by a young lad who does not want to leave his state. Crows went above and beyond. If it doesn’t pay now it will in a few years time.
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This is the problem, Sydney are now rating him higher than a 2 time AA and 2 time bnf winner. But yea a guy in his mid 20’s with PB of 3rd in a bnf is clearly gonna be our best player
u could say the same thing about sydney asking for Pick 4.
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Doubt it but I hope you’re right
Membling
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You know what Bad Faith is yeah?
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not a single knowledgeable person in the league would say Dawson is the best wingman in the game.
Using your logic on CD ratings, Adelaide could get a top 5 pick for Ben Keays.
Bit like Sydney being unrealistic asking for a pick in the top ten for a player taken at pick 54 …..?
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SSwans2011
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This is the dumbest line of argument. Taylor Walker was taken at pick 75. What was he worth in his prime?
