Traded Jordan Lewis [traded to Melbourne with picks 57 and 68 for picks 48 and 66]

[Dez!]

Melbourne need to cease from playing games at the trade table & get real....Pickering needs to stop playing games in the press at our expense.

Ah yes because it's Melbourne playing games it must be.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Ah yes because it's Melbourne playing games it must be.

Plenty of other clubs want him....Pay the fee or miss out....Pretty simple.

 

[Shadow Tiger]

Ah yes because it's Melbourne playing games it must be.

Enjoy u will have Lewis by end off trade week

 

[HeHateMe]

pay up or miss out is the theme of this trade period.

 

[Dez!]

Plenty of other clubs want him....Pay the fee or miss out....Pretty simple.

Plenty of other clubs won't get him.

The only options here are he goes to Melbourne or he stays at Hawthorn.

 

[old55]

Melbourne need to cease from playing games at the trade table & get real....Pickering needs to stop playing games in the press at our expense.

Hawks lit the fire.

 

[HeHateMe]

Hawks lit the fire.

yep and because of that melbourne have an opportunity to recruit a Jordan lewis. they just need to put there previous offer back on the table.

 

[HawksILove]

yep and because of that melbourne have an opportunity to recruit a Jordan lewis. they just need to put there previous offer back on the table.

What previous offer?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Hawthorn supporters are absolutely delusional if they think they're getting anything of worth from Melbourne here.

Here are the salient facts - or as close to them as we can get from the media circus.

Hawthorn have decided to refresh the top-end of their list and aren't confident about their engine room. They've poached Vickery to fill the role left by Hale that Ceglar was unable to have a go at due to injury, and have supposedly paid him a little more than they wanted due to Richmond threatening to match the offer if their compensation was not maximised.

They've chased Titch and JOM, both of whom have agreed to come, but both of whom needed to be traded for rather than poached. Having a 3x Premiership list isn't cheap - and the cap is tight with no major retirements this year.

Clarkson has sat down with Mitchell and Lewis, and suggested that he believes their time at Hawthorn is coming to an end. They're not being kicked out, but the club would like them to explore their options. Mitchell says "yep, the family have actually been thinking of moving to Perth for some time, I'm 34 and the end is near, it makes sense to do it now if it benefits the club". Pick 88, cursory pick, all is well.Lewis says "are you ******* kidding me, I'm meant to be the next captain of this club and now I'm damaged goods. I'm 30, I'm playing good footy, **** off."

He goes to Pickering and tells him to trade him to Melbourne; they play at the G, train at AAMI and, having witnessed the Dogs' flag this year, he has the chance to win another if he can get a decent contract. Pickering contacts Melbourne, who are surprised but eager to explore it having seen what Mitchell went for. The list is young, they're big on getting winners and good personalities to guide the youth. The clubs agree a deal, Lewis is happy to go, but Hawthorn get cold feet and remember that letting go of their best two midfielders - one and two in the BnF - may be a rash idea.

They go back on the deal, Wright is confident that the damage is reparable and an apology from Clarkson to Lewis goes down okay. Lewis sleeps on it, realises he's still angry and that the trust is broken, his head is no longer there, and goes across to Pickering to tell him to get the deal done on Friday.

Hawthorn dig their heels in and demand more than the cursory pick offered by Melbourne.

From here, nobody knows. It could well be a second round pick, or maybe its a third. Insiders are split.

What Melbourne isn't going to do, however, is deal a best 22~ player to Hawthorn for a guy they thought they were getting for chips. They also have the Hibberd deal to get over the line. Suggestions of Frost, Hunt etc are ludicrous. If Hawthorn think they can get/make something out of Dawes, Lumumba, Kennedy-Harris, Michie or Newton - they can have them for free. I'd imagine the club is willing to deal Trengove, if JT wants to go. Harmes, Kennedy and Neal-Bullen are all around that best 22 mark - but none have yet locked a spot in. The latter particularly looks to have a bright future, with the way he played VFL at 20, but is far down the list and will only be pushed further if we sign Lewis. All three would probably get a game for Hawthorn in 2017, especially if Breust leaves in the case of Kennedy.

Where it goes next week is another matter, but the damage is done. Lewis is contracted, but him staying would not be conducive to rebuilding the culture of the club around these younger guys.

My opinion - a third rounder and a swap of fourths will be the end deal.

Initial talks were around a higher or future pick. Only when Melbourne returned to the discussion on Thursday with a lesser offer did Hawthorn stop to remind Melbourne that Lewis was "contracted and required".

Someone decided it would be a good idea to go to the media and tell them that Lewis was to be traded but that Hawthorn had "backflipped".

 

[Tulip]

a little bird told me that the player involved in the lewis trade will be hunt.

Josh, Karmichael, Taylor, or you're an absolute c Hunt?

 

[Mitchell54]

Send him to Richmond
Caddy and Lewis to Richmond
Pick 27 and Deledio to Geelong
Pick 38 to Hawthorn

Or if he was to go to Melbourne
Hartung, 29, 48, 57 to Brisbane
Lewis, 21 to Melbourne
Pick 16 to Hawthorn

 

[Down the throat]

Initial talks were around a higher or future pick. Only when Melbourne returned to the discussion on Thursday with a lesser offer did Hawthorn stop to remind Melbourne that Lewis was "contracted and required".

Someone decided it would be a good idea to go to the media and tell them that Lewis was to be traded but that Hawthorn had "backflipped".

The only place Ive seen that particular narrative is from you... Im surprised neither party has confirmed or denied Melbourne's allegations of Hawthorn's backflipping.

Even if true, i think its completely understandable for Melbourne to review their offer once they saw what Hawthorn sold Mitchell off for.

 

[Jordie_tackles]

Melbourne need to cease from playing games at the trade table & get real....Pickering needs to stop playing games in the press at our expense.

Melbourne learnt from dumping all their experienced players years ago. Hawthorn playing the biggest game of all this trade period. Telling Mitchell and Lewis they should both seek opportunities not expecting both to jump at it. Now Lewis feels less appreciated than most players ATM across the league.

 

[Billyc]

The only place Ive seen that particular narrative is from you... Im surprised neither party has confirmed or denied Melbourne's allegations of Hawthorn's backflipping.

Even if true, i think its completely understandable for Melbourne to review their offer once they saw what Hawthorn sold Mitchell off for.

Last time Hawthorn discussed their plans at all with the media? We are the biggest closed shop in the game when it comes to the media. It's why the journos all hate Clarko and had 5-6 clubs still in the running for O'Meara a month ago. Hawks give them nothing.

 

[00Stinger]

Hawthorn Deledio
Melbourne Lewis
Richmond Prestia
Gold Coast picks from Melb future second round,Richmond 26 pick
Clubs are in talks both players are from the same trade period how ironic

So richmond get prestia for pick 26, seems legit

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[Billyc]

Melbourne learnt from dumping all their experienced players years ago. Hawthorn playing the biggest game of all this trade period. Telling Mitchell and Lewis they should both seek opportunities not expecting both to jump at it. Now Lewis feels less appreciated than most players ATM across the league.

And Brisbane learnt from dumping all their experienced players AT ONCE. We moved Lake and Hale last year. Mitchell and Lewis this year. Hodge, Gibson and Burgoyne next year. It is being staggered for a reason. Retiring 5 all at once is far more risky.

I have no issue with Lewis being moved on. My only concern is that I'd have retired one of the others rather than Mitchell.

But I'm pretty comfortable in the knowledge that Clarkson has achieved twice as many flags as the next best over the last decade. Reckon he knows more than us mugs.

 

[Down the throat]

Last time Hawthorn discussed their plans at all with the media? We are the biggest closed shop in the game when it comes to the media. It's why the journos all hate Clarko and journos has 5-6 clubs still in the running for O'Meara a month ago.

Melbourne has been similar since Paul Roos and Jason Taylor came in - the moves we've made in trade week have only hit the papers after theyve been done.

Its certainly an odd situation - Im surprised in both cases to be fair.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

The only place Ive seen that particular narrative is from you... Im surprised neither party has confirmed or denied Melbourne's allegations of Hawthorn's backflipping.

Even if true, i think its completely understandable for Melbourne to review their offer once they saw what Hawthorn sold Mitchell off for.

It certainly wasn't Hawthorn going to the press to say they'd backflipped.

 

[Wise Guy Sam]

It certainly wasn't Hawthorn going to the press to say they'd backflipped.

You don't maybe think it was Pickering? Known weasel.

 

[LeverPuller]

It certainly wasn't Hawthorn going to the press to say they'd backflipped.

To be honest I think it was Pickers.

The only hint anyone had of this before it all blew up was a 3AW Rumor File story that was dismissed as loony. Now that it's all gone south, there's the question of where it came from?

What we know:
- Clarko and Lewis met (either Hawthorn or Lewis leaked this)
- Details of the convo (Hawks or Lewis)
- Details of what Lewis thought about the convo (only Lewis)
- Lewis approached MFC (either Lewis or MFC)
- Contract was agreed (any of Hawks, MFC, Lewis)
- Trade was agreed in principle (any of the 3)

Now, there's a rumor about a Hawthorn emergency board meeting to scuttle the trade but who knows on that front...

But on all the information the common denominator is Lewis (and Pickering through that). I think it's been more Jordan than anyone else. Hawthorn are in damage control, MFC had to say something. Neither club has a history of publicly commenting on their trade negotiations like this so I suggest that Lewis really is angry and is throwing information out like confetti - through Pickers, through Warnambool mates.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

To be honest I think it was Pickers.

The only hint anyone had of this before it all blew up was a 3AW Rumor File story that was dismissed as loony. Now that it's all gone south, there's the question of where it came from?

What we know:
- Clarko and Lewis met (either Hawthorn or Lewis leaked this)
- Details of the convo (Hawks or Lewis)
- Details of what Lewis thought about the convo (only Lewis)
- Lewis approached MFC (either Lewis or MFC)
- Contract was agreed (any of Hawks, MFC, Lewis)
- Trade was agreed in principle (any of the 3)

Now, there's a rumor about a Hawthorn emergency board meeting to scuttle the trade but who knows on that front...

But on all the information the common denominator is Lewis (and Pickering through that). I think it's been more Jordan than anyone else. Hawthorn are in damage control, MFC had to say something. Neither club has a history of publicly commenting on their trade negotiations like this so I suggest that Lewis really is angry and is throwing information out like confetti - through Pickers, through Warnambool mates.

I hadn't heard the rumour about the emergency board meeting. That sounds like something made up on Twitter.

I am with you on where the whisper would most likely have come from, but the 'Hawthorn in damage control' stuff is a little off. Clarkson and Lewis have an understanding. Jordan knows Melbourne are going to give him the security that Hawthorn could not. All the media fanfare, trying to blew it up in to something it isn't is where this went sideways.

 

[Bluelegs]

Plenty of other clubs want him....Pay the fee or miss out....Pretty simple.

Melbourne are literally the only club linked to him.

 

[LeverPuller]

I hadn't heard the rumour about the emergency board meeting. That sounds like something made up on Twitter.

I am with you on where the whisper would most likely have come from, but the 'Hawthorn in damage control' stuff is a little off. Clarkson and Lewis have an understanding. Jordan knows Melbourne are going to give him the security that Hawthorn could not. All the media fanfare, trying to blew it up in to something it isn't is where this went sideways.

It's not off Twitter. Take it with a grain of salt. The sources are a couple of different posters on Demonland (MFC forum) whose mail has a history of being pretty damn good.

As for the rest, I think there's an element of Hawthorn losing control of the story, but I am not sure at what point it was. I agree that it's been overblown.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Plenty of other clubs want him....Pay the fee or miss out....Pretty simple.

I think he'll go where He & Liam thinks it best for him.... Whether HFC like it or not.
"Agents rule the AFL" something that everyone should get around their heads.

 

[DAWESOME!!]

Without disrespect to Lewis and what he's done, he's an old 30, he's not Sam Mitchell, and I can't see how it's a good idea for the Dees to trade a 2nd round pick, or a best 22 player for him when he has a couple of years tops left at the top level in a position they already have covered.

It's a third rounder and/or a fringe player in my view. If the Hawks aren't interested in that, the Dees should leave it and maybe revisit next year when he's a free agent.