Josh Frydenberg. Out of his depth.

[Dixie Flatline]

Dr Ryan ended up with 90 less first preference votes than Frydenberg - Dr Ryan had 33,123 first preference votes compared to 33,213 for Frydenberg. The ALP's candidate, Peter Lynch, got 5,032 to run a very distant third, while the Greens' Piers Mitchell ended with 4,646 first preference votes.

Frydenberg got the majority of the 2CP vote on the postals, but it was only 600 votes the difference on postal votes, whereas Dr Ryan had a lead of almost 7,000 votes after 2CP counting on ordinary votes (40,680 to 33,737). Dr Ryan has 54.04% of the two candidate preferred votes, compared to Frydenberg's 45.96% of the two candidate preferred vote, with 44 of 45 polling places returned and 100% of the ballot papers counted, according to the AEC website.

The only issue is that it took Frydenberg the better part of two days to concede to Dr Ryan - he was thoroughly smashed. He lost booths like Kew North, Kew North West, Kew East Central, Kew, Kew East and Kew South, in addition to a number of booths in and around Glenferrie Oval. Never in a 100 years would I expect a Liberal incumbent to lose those booths, since (outside of Toorak and South Yarra) Kew represents the oldest of old money in Melbourne. Frydenberg won in booths like Balwyn, Balwyn North, Bellevue, but he should make no mistake - he was dumped by his electorate in a most unceremonious fashion. Not to mention that, from personal experience, Frydenberg liked to cultivate the support of the local junior football clubs in Kew, particularly Kew Rovers (received many emails over the years telling me about a breakfast with Frydenberg down at Kew Rovers' club rooms).

 

[Dixie Flatline]

With the Liberal party seemingly lurching towards the right, and Dutton tipped to take over the leadership of the Parliamentary party, I wonder whether there will be much of a move to get Frydenberg back into Parliament somehow. I also wonder whether he'll want it. He'll get plenty of offers from the private sector to go onto boards, etc., and he won't be short of a bob any time soon, I wouldn't have thought.

 

[Nikita Blue]

With the Liberal party seemingly lurching towards the right, and Dutton tipped to take over the leadership of the Parliamentary party, I wonder whether there will be much of a move to get Frydenberg back into Parliament somehow. I also wonder whether he'll want it. He'll get plenty of offers from the private sector to go onto boards, etc., and he won't be short of a bob any time soon, I wouldn't have thought.

Might get a job at the Guide Dogs.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

With the Liberal party seemingly lurching towards the right, and Dutton tipped to take over the leadership of the Parliamentary party, I wonder whether there will be much of a move to get Frydenberg back into Parliament somehow. I also wonder whether he'll want it. He'll get plenty of offers from the private sector to go onto boards, etc., and he won't be short of a bob any time soon, I wouldn't have thought.

media already asking Tudge if he's prepared to stand down to let Frydo contest the by-election

 

[sherb]

media already asking Tudge if he's prepared to stand down to let Frydo contest the by-election

I'm sure the good people of Aston would just love being forced back to the polls.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Outside the 3 concession speeches (we only need 1 FFS), I thought Frydo spoke well and without the same degree of bitterness of his colleagues

 

[Brad Goodman]

The only issue is that it took Frydenberg the better part of two days to concede to Dr Ryan - he was thoroughly smashed. He lost booths like Kew North, Kew North West, Kew East Central, Kew, Kew East and Kew South, in addition to a number of booths in and around Glenferrie Oval.

He lost all those but he did manage to dominate Far Kew.

 

[Brad Goodman]

Outside the 3 concession speeches (we only need 1 FFS), I thought Frydo spoke well and without the same degree of bitterness of his colleagues

Out of those ousted he's surely most likely to land on his feet.

 

[Cyber_punk]

To be fair when you have the country and it’s economy mostly shot down & handing out stimulus cheque’s like there’s no tomorrow. Will amount to a large debt

The LNP had blown out the debt more even before covid came. Not that Murdoch's good little messengers would let that little fact slip out too much.

 

[mill204]

media already asking Tudge if he's prepared to stand down to let Frydo contest the by-election

It will take an adverse ICAC finding to remove the $500k man.

 

[Leeda]

Might get a job at the Guide Dogs.

Yeah.. I see what your rank and file led to this ….snuffle up to the citizens….heal and toe

 

[Bombermania]

media already asking Tudge if he's prepared to stand down to let Frydo contest the by-election

Frydenberg isn't a good fit for Aston. Fyrdenberg's support comes from CEO's and executives so his path back into parliament is to recontest Kooyong or try Higgins against the ALP.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Frydenberg isn't a good fit for Aston. Fyrdenberg's support comes from CEO's and executives so his path back into parliament is to recontest Kooyong or try Higgins against the ALP.

The bloke is poison - he's just lost one of the bluest of blue ribbon seats. It's been held by the conservatives since federation.

Re-running him in a Kooyong or Higgins would be absolute suicide stuff.

(So yeah, the Liberals will probably do it).

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Frydenberg isn't a good fit for Aston. Fyrdenberg's support comes from CEO's and executives so his path back into parliament is to recontest Kooyong or try Higgins against the ALP.

he has to wait 3 years for Higgins

and in politics its all about

 

[mill204]

he has to wait 3 years for Higgins

and in politics its all about

The Libs will find him a seat sooner rather than later. In the meantime, one of the surfeit of businesses that increased their profits due to his JobKeeper help will find a place for him.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

The Libs will find him a seat sooner rather than later. In the meantime, one of the surfeit of businesses that increased their profits due to his JobKeeper help will find a place for him.

who is leaving in Melbourne? they have Aston and Menzies - thats it

 

[Nikita Blue]

Yeah.. I see what your rank and file led to this ….snuffle up to the citizens….heal and toe

Yeah even without my brain being fried by Carlton being top 3 and Labor winning, I can't understand you.

 

[FredLeDeux]

Yeah even without my brain being fried by Carlton being top 3 and Labor winning, I can't understand you.

Scummo and his 40 thieves get the bullet, but Carlton is top 3.
You can't have everything.

 

[mill204]

who is leaving in Melbourne? they have Aston and Menzies - thats it

He's a career polly. You shouldn't confine your thinking to Melbourne.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

He's a career polly. You shouldn't confine your thinking to Melbourne.

he's politically dead if he leaves victoria - its an admission he's poison here

I suggested Cook, but I failed to make one caveat.

it only works if the party and the factions agree to it.

why would the nsw libs and the nsw branch agree to losing one of their own for a victorian moderate?

the nsw branches are dominated by the hard right, and the nsw poli's (scomo's old grouping) is the moderates dominated by the god botherers

 

[Number37]

he's politically dead if he leaves victoria - its an admission he's poison here

I suggested Cook, but I failed to make one caveat.

it only works if the party and the factions agree to it.

why would the nsw libs and the nsw branch agree to losing one of their own for a victorian moderate?

the nsw branches are dominated by the hard right, and the nsw poli's (scomo's old grouping) is the moderates dominated by the god botherers

The cookers owe the moderates a couple of seats.
When the NSW internal fight is done, I would imagine the cookers will have lost most of their power.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

The cookers owe the moderates a couple of seats.
When the NSW internal fight is done, I would imagine the cookers will have lost most of their power.

the cookers own the branches. with scomo gone, if dom cannot consolidate power with a new fed based NSW powerbroker, the cookers win

you then have 40 of the 60 LNP in the cooker file (20 qld, 10 nsw, 10 nats)

 

[Number37]

the cookers own the branches. with scomo gone, if dom cannot consolidate power with a new fed based NSW powerbroker, the cookers win

you then have 40 of the 60 LNP in the cooker file (20 qld, 10 nsw, 10 nats)

Dom has dirt on cookers like Hawke.
Knock over the chief cooker, the rest will fold like deck chairs. They are all pea hearted bullies ala Scummo.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Dom has dirt on cookers like Hawke.
Knock over the chief cooker, the rest will fold like deck chairs. They are all pea hearted bullies ala Scummo.

dont hold your breathe - if they have the numbers he needs their support for fundraising

nsw is cooked

 

[Number37]

dont hold your breathe - if they have the numbers he needs their support for fundraising

nsw is cooked

Won't be holding my breath, will be consuming lots of popcorm.
Like that LNP strategist on ABC election coverage said "it will get worse, before it gets worse"