Jumper clash fails

[Billy ray]

Yay. Add white to brisbane which is a port colour

Ffs. Port to wear white shorts.
Brisbane to wear maroon jumper and maroon shorts. Yknow like 2004

 

[clarkoscluster]

1. It's the afl
2. Collingwood have used the "It's our away jumper" excuse vs the roos before

They may be stupid but they’re not putting two teams in white kits. especially as we’ll be wearing white shorts.

 

[phantom13]

Yay. Add white to brisbane which is a port colour

Ffs. Port to wear white shorts.
Brisbane to wear maroon jumper and maroon shorts. Yknow like 2004

I think the red Fitzroy jumper is better than their home and I’m less worried about the shorts (although matching to the jumper would be better)

 

[royboy2]

Royal blue shorts would be sweet. But with this score I don't care what we are wearing.

 

[phantom13]

An extreme solution that isn’t required. What’s required is the AFL to be proactive with their approach. Seems as though they’re not as concerned with it as they were 5-10 years ago. Maybe a new regime that aren’t putting their energy into it as they are in other areas of the game.

It is and it isn’t.

I’ve said a bunch of times the afl correctly implementing their current policy would be fine but the issue is they never have and I don’t believe they are capable of doing so, we will absolutely wind up with big clubs flexing their muscles to never wear it.

My extreme policy is never gonna be adopted but you can’t argue it wouldn’t work.

 

[Billy ray]

Found this interesting
This is what the AFL needs but at same time need to do it right (one team all dark one all light)


Prior to the season, home teams are given a window of time to go on a portal called “LockerVision”and select which uniforms they will wear at home. After every home team makes its choices, the NBA opens the portal again for the road team to pick.


Full link:

Column: Here's why the Lakers keep wearing purple jerseys instead of gold at home

The Lakers' iconic gold jersey is a huge fan favorite, but the team keeps treating the Staples Center faithful to purple threads. What's up with that?

www.latimes.com

 

[The Mailman Delivers]

The question really is why Brisbane are wearing the Fitzroy guernsey in Adelaide

Red contrasts with Black better than maroon. Maybe that was their thinking. Their yellow one would be even sweeter, but we got an acceptable outcome.

 

[The 747]

Not a clash per se, but how the AFL can spend millions of dollars trying to build a brand in Western Sydney, then let Carlton basically wear that jumper in a national Friday night game astounds me.

 

[The Mailman Delivers]

Not a clash per se, but how the AFL can spend millions of dollars trying to build a brand in Western Sydney, then let Carlton basically wear that jumper in a national Friday night game astounds me.

You must be easily astounded.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Not a clash per se, but how the AFL can spend millions of dollars trying to build a brand in Western Sydney, then let Carlton basically wear that jumper in a national Friday night game astounds me.

Having orange in our guernsey and socks, does not mean it is the same guernsey. Where does it say that only GWS can have orange anywhere in their colours.

However, if Western Sydney fans thought that was GWS smacking the Cats on Friday night, that can only help their cause.

It's for a good cause.

 

[The 747]

Having orange in our guernsey and socks, does not mean it is the same guernsey. Where does it say that only GWS can have orange anywhere in their colours.

However, if Western Sydney fans thought that was GWS smacking the Cats on Friday night, that can only help their cause.

It's for a good cause.

Good cause sure, but it makes no sense from any branding perspective for the AFL to approve it, if you can think beyond your club.

 

[simba_]

Good cause sure, but it makes no sense from any branding perspective for the AFL to approve it, if you can think beyond your club.

the AFL is amateur and doesn't look at things like that

 

[phantom13]

Good cause sure, but it makes no sense from any branding perspective for the AFL to approve it, if you can think beyond your club.

Do you know what it’s for? This is like saying the dees shouldnt wear pink for the BCNA game, or saints and tigers purple for the Maddy game.


It’s not a random choice.

 

[The 747]

Do you know what it’s for? This is like saying the dees shouldnt wear pink for the BCNA game, or saints and tigers purple for the Maddy game.


It’s not a random choice.

I know what it is for and it is nothing like the other examples you posted.

Neither pink or purple directly mimic the jumper of another club that the AFL has spent millions trying to establish.

Even orange could have been used without having a jumper that looked very similar to GWS.

This place sometimes

 

[Soggy2112]

I know what it is for and it is nothing like the other examples you posted.

Neither pink or purple directly mimic the jumper of another club that the AFL has spent millions trying to establish.

Even orange could have been used without having a jumper that looked very similar to GWS.

This place sometimes

I think you are underestimating the intelligence of people if you think they can’t work out that it had a specific meaning and any similarity to GWS was a coincidence.

 

[parano1a]

it had a specific meaning and any similarity to GWS was a coincidence.

The orange socks alone would have been fine to signify the charity cause (as Melbourne did with pink socks). The addition of the bright orange shoulder panels and orange number to the jumper was a complete bastardisation of the traditional Carlton jumper and nobody in the media has the balls to call it out in fear of offending the charity.

 

[Soggy2112]

The orange socks alone would have been fine to signify the charity cause (as Melbourne did with pink socks). The addition of the bright orange shoulder panels and orange number to the jumper was a complete bastardisation of the traditional Carlton jumper and nobody in the media has the balls to call it out in fear of offending the charity.

“Bastardisation”

Give me a break.

It’s two orange panels.

There’s also a big Hyundai logo on the jumper.

For the record I’m not saying you or any specific person fits into this category, but given what the charity represents, I’m very suspicious of anyone who comes up with a reason to dislike this particular charity jumper.

 

[The 747]

“Bastardisation”

Give me a break.

It’s two orange panels.

There’s also a big Hyundai logo on the jumper.

For the record I’m not saying you or any specific person fits into this category, but given what the charity represents, I’m very suspicious of anyone who comes up with a reason to dislike this particular charity jumper.

I think that is unfair on other posters. We are talking about the jumper not the cause.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Good cause sure, but it makes no sense from any branding perspective for the AFL to approve it, if you can think beyond your club.

Is orange a brand?

I mean, Carlton are the Navy Blues ... it's in our song. Surely, that's more of a brand than the term Orange Tsunami? It's not like we try to prevent other teams from having dark blue in their kit.

The reason we use orange is that we used to wear chamois patches on our guernsey in the early days. Those patches would turn orange when they faded or got wet etc. For a time orange was considered a part of our colours. We actually wore a heritage jumper with orange in it.



Now, can we cease with this notion that all things orange belong to GWS and so the AFL must protect a colour?

 

[The 747]

Is orange a brand?

I mean, Carlton are the Navy Blues ... it's in our song. Surely, that's more of a brand than the term Orange Tsunami? It's not like we try to prevent other teams from having dark blue in their kit.

The reason we use orange is that we used to wear chamois patches on our guernsey in the early days. Those patches would turn orange when they faded or got wet etc. For a time orange was considered a part of our colours. We actually wore a heritage jumper with orange in it.

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Now, can we cease with this notion that all things orange belong to GWS and so the AFL must protect a colour?

Yes GWS have orange branding. Carlton's branding has what a century of history behind it?

Appreciate that club stuff gets in the way but try to look at the bigger picture.

It's not about Carlton (they can propose whatever jumper they like), or the great cause this jumper is about, it's about the AFL approving a jumper - for a national broadcast that looks very similar to the jumper of another team.

When they have pumped millions into that other team in order to try and establish a brand in a difficult market.

 

[Roylion]

The question really is why Brisbane are wearing the Fitzroy guernsey in Adelaide. It’s now going beyond its requirements.

Because
1) it's a great guernsey
2) the red jumper is worn for all Victorian games and non Queensland games, except when the AFL determines a clash between the two uniforms. In that case the away team has to wear their clash uniform.

The 2024 clash jumper for the Lions is

 

[Outtatym]

We all know who owns orange.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Yes GWS have orange branding. Carlton's branding has what a century of history behind it?

Appreciate that club stuff gets in the way but try to look at the bigger picture.

It's not about Carlton (they can propose whatever jumper they like), or the great cause this jumper is about, it's about the AFL approving a jumper - for a national broadcast that looks very similar to the jumper of another team.

When they have pumped millions into that other team in order to try and establish a brand in a difficult market.

Similar ....



The only thing similar is the colour orange existing in both.

There is nothing else to suggest that anyone could get confused. This is clearly Carlton to anyone who knows even a tiny bit about the game, and only the temerity to wear orange is in question here. Different styles, no confusion.

 

[The Mailman Delivers]

Yes GWS have orange branding. Carlton's branding has what a century of history behind it?

Appreciate that club stuff gets in the way but try to look at the bigger picture.

It's not about Carlton (they can propose whatever jumper they like), or the great cause this jumper is about, it's about the AFL approving a jumper - for a national broadcast that looks very similar to the jumper of another team.

When they have pumped millions into that other team in order to try and establish a brand in a difficult market.

Yeah I just don't know how the Giants are ever going to thrive when a team 1000km away adds a bit of orange to its strip one game a year.

I guess Essendon's red alternate kit must be scrapped immediately too because Gold Coast own red, and their brand will be damaged?

 

[emuboy]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there one match in the late 2000s where the West Coast Eagles mistakenly packed their royal blue jumpers for a trip to Melbourne for a night game against the Western Bulldogs, causing an almighty jumper clash?

It got me thinking; if there was a repeat of this, could the home team change jumpers at the last minute?

As examples, the Gold Coast travel to Sydney to play the Swans and pack their standard red and gold with sky blue trimmings rather than their blue and gold with red trimmings clash jumpers? Or the inverse of this where the Suns go to Perth for a match against the Eagles and pack their predominantly blue jumpers? Other examples might be Fremantle travelling for an away game against Carlton and taking their mainly purple jumpers, or Brisbane intending to wear a Fitzroy heritage jumper for an away match against Hawthorn, but mistakenly taking a Bears heritage kit with the BB triangular logo.

In these cases, could the Swans don their South Melbourne jumpers, the Eagles their mainly gold jumpers, Carlton their white clash jumpers or Hawthorn a mainly brown jumper to try and minimize the clash?