It would be shit on wide shots.
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It would be shit on wide shots.
on wide shots it's easier than in a closeup because it looks like white vs. black
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Particularly in congested situations, when those jumpers are in motion, yep, you betcha I'd have trouble distinguishing between the two instantaneously.
so when you say "I'd", this is a hypothetical to you? Have you actually checked? You know you can do that, right?
This doesn't even approach a clash. It's ridiculous to suggest that these kits are hard to tell apart.
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Yes, I've seen several games between Collingwood and teams wearing predominantly white alternate strips. And if I was in charge, Freo would be in predominantly red or green (or yellow, orange, pink or any other colour they choose to embrace) as this would provide much clearer differentiation.
Do you have trouble telling those two kits apart, yes or no?
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Again, Yes. In congested situations, when the players are forward facing, is there instantaneous differentiation? In my opinion, no. A lot of white jumping out at you from both jumpers. But as much as I dislike the predominantly white front to Collingwood's preferred jumper, it was their right to wear it and so it's on the League and Freo to come up with something better.
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Contrasting Colour is the solution. Not white shorts. Dark vs light is a red herring. It's only relevant in a few distinct circumstances (games involving Carlton, Collingwood, Geelong and North Melbourne and perhaps Freo)
All the clubs have access to these colours as club colours:
People have been so brainwashed by 'light vs dark'. The most striking and visually pleasing matches are with teams who have contrasting colours:
Even in some of these examples where one team is wearing white shorts, they're not assisting in any way and arguably making the contrast weaker very often. It's colours that make the contrast. Every club (except the black/navy blue and white clubs) have access to strong bright colours in their signature branding.
All the clubs have access to these colours as club colours:
People have been so brainwashed by 'light vs dark'. The most striking and visually pleasing matches are with teams who have contrasting colours:
Even in some of these examples where one team is wearing white shorts, they're not assisting in any way and arguably making the contrast weaker very often. It's colours that make the contrast. Every club (except the black/navy blue and white clubs) have access to strong bright colours in their signature branding.
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Blue and orange are opposite sides of the colour wheel. This leads to an absolutely beautiful contrast:
GWS wearing white shorts is doing absolutely nothing to assist in creating a contrast and in fact is actually making it worse.
Compare this below:
GWS' "charcoal" coloured shorts now makes the contrast even better. Contrasting colours is the solution. Light vs dark = red herring.
GWS wearing white shorts is doing absolutely nothing to assist in creating a contrast and in fact is actually making it worse.
Compare this below:
GWS' "charcoal" coloured shorts now makes the contrast even better. Contrasting colours is the solution. Light vs dark = red herring.
A very well made point.
White shorts when away is a redundant concept that made sense back in VFL era when it was a suburban game, players weren't professional, there was no money in the game, clubs all played on sat arvo, to watch the game you had to go to the suburban stadium, there was no TV broadcast deals and nobody watching on TV.
White shorts are the biggest reason why jumper clashes exist, as they do absolutely nothing to solve a jumper clash.
Need full alternate kits that contrast, most clubs are finally getting there. Tis just a few stubborn ones that refuse to use them for ALL games.
An excellent point at that, one of the better posts I've ever read on this site.
Also why I wish Freo went back to using their more vibrant purple rather than being almost navy blue.
As an aside, the current freo jumpers are very bland. They look like they were chosen from a catalog.
Agreed, but also previous Guernsey was extremely busy.
I'd be all for their original purple starlight design, purple with the white anchor and then subtly the collar and sleeve trim are Port and Starboard colours.
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I wish we'd embrace Red shorts like that. Looks so much better
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Why not blue shorts?
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I think it looks better as a more solid colour going from blue to red to red rather than blue-red-blue.
Buy realistically it should depend on who playing against. Against black or white teams more red works. Against an orange/yellow/red team then more blue works.
I've also stated a few times I think we should embrace the bears more yellow colours sometimes to provide a better contrast
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We should wear our bears gold/maroon clash jumper for all away fixtures outside Victoria. So against Gold Coast, Sydney, GWS, Adelaide, Port, Freo and West Coast. I'd even suggest wearing it with Maroon shorts. The jumper should provide enough contrast.
GC, GWS, HW, NM, SYD, WC, WB there is no issue in them wearing full preferred kit (including coloured shorts) against Pies in our current preferred black kit.
BL and Melb, revert to the lighter Fitz and Royal Blue kits (again with coloured shorts) and also no issue...and they are traditional jumpers that fans know as "home kits" get.
Geel in white, I dont see as that big a clash anyway.
So leave 7 clubs
Ade, Ess, Rich, Saints all have strong colour based alternates which wont clash at all and are easily identifiable as the respective clubs.
Freo and Port have previously used colour based away strips - green and teal - so again no problem in a non white clash.
And Carlton have gone yellow, baby blue and are now introducing orange...as long as they have the CFC logo they identify as Carlton.
It really is a non-issue.
AFL just needs to get clubs to have a minimum of three kits (they make more with all the gimmick jumpers anyway).
Preferred kit
Alternate kit
Clash kit
And the AFL decides which you will wear, and lets EVERYONE know, when releasing the fixture.
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They also should coordinate the indigenous kits before the start of the season because there’s been some disastrous colour clashes over the years during the Doug Nichols round
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I'm convinced that some of these kits and match ups are known well before the fixture is released. Not to mention the designs have to go past AFL house first.
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If I was in charge, NM & Geel wouldnt be able to wear preferred kits away to Collingwood. Way too much white going on at the stoppages, front on. NM can go solid royal blue, and the Cats really need a third kit for this one, as solid Navy wouldn't achieve much either. Maybe a light green or yellow base with hoops of a lighter shade - something still very Geelongish.
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Colourless shorts do look weaker.
I completely agree, I hate white being the default clash strip. I also think there is nothing wrong going for non traditional colours for alternative strip. For example I think port should go for a predominantly teal guernsey as their clash strip rather than white or freo have their original 90s green guernsey no other team wears green (except tassie when they come in)
Maybe this with green shorts for an example.
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I like the idea of green for Freo. But you'd probably want it to be a lighter Sydney Thunder type green as that green pictured offers little contrast with darker home jumpers.
