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Jumper clash fails
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It’s simple really. Put them in the strip with the greatest possible contrast. Funnily enough, that’s what they do at training match sim and what’s they do with their VFL teams. For both players and spectators it’s the far superior option - the game can move at great speed and it makes a huge difference on a big field when you’re relying on peripheral vision in terms of players down the ground.
It’s not so much an issue on TV as there’s no peripheral vision involved, but it looks better anyway.
Carlton should’ve been in all white.
It’s not so much an issue on TV as there’s no peripheral vision involved, but it looks better anyway.
Carlton should’ve been in all white.
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The problem is that the white guernseys would have without question made it better.
For a club like Carlton which has a pretty perfect clash ready-made (white, or any colour really with the monogram) but just has a few issues with not wearing it as often as they should, I'd be in favour of a rule being implemented where the clash is the default away strip, unless it will make the clash worse than the regular home strip (e.g. against Geelong or Sydney).
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Blue vs Dark Blue.
Well done AFL.
Well done AFL.
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I suspect part of the problem with games like yesterday is sponsorship. Many clubs have different sponsors on home vs clash jumpers, or at least they swap the front and back sponsors like Carlton do (Hyundai and Great Southern Bank). They sell these sponsorships based on how many games they’ll be worn in, so when North switch from their home strip (which wouldve been mostly white) to a blue strip, Carlton can’t always just switch too because of sponsors.
And yes, they can get another set of jumpers made (ie a clash set with home sponsors) but that takes a surprisingly long time between design, approval (sponsors might not be happy with how visible they are on a different colour jumper), and production in China off a new template (samples, adjustments then final).
Of course all these things can be avoided through proper planning and communication, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that just doesn’t happen.
So I have a little sympathy for when clubs switch right up in fancy dress like North did yesterday, going from white to blue.
And yes, they can get another set of jumpers made (ie a clash set with home sponsors) but that takes a surprisingly long time between design, approval (sponsors might not be happy with how visible they are on a different colour jumper), and production in China off a new template (samples, adjustments then final).
Of course all these things can be avoided through proper planning and communication, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that just doesn’t happen.
So I have a little sympathy for when clubs switch right up in fancy dress like North did yesterday, going from white to blue.
Perfect tonight.
No "away white shorts" to be seen in either game.
No "away white shorts" to be seen in either game.
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Also on North, not because of yesterday because they were the home club, but just in general, they’re often criticised because they don’t have a clash jumper.
Quite strange they don’t just use this, was their jumper when they joined the VFL and the last one they wore before settling in the current stripes. It is literally a North jumper and it’s perfect. All blue with blue shorts, and their home strip is white with white shorts.
Bizarre they don’t use it.
Quite strange they don’t just use this, was their jumper when they joined the VFL and the last one they wore before settling in the current stripes. It is literally a North jumper and it’s perfect. All blue with blue shorts, and their home strip is white with white shorts.
Bizarre they don’t use it.
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Many teams, including Carlton, already have a home sponsors, and away sponsors version of their home jumper:
Round 2 vs Geelong at home:
Round 3 vs GWS away (they also wore this on Friday):
Note the Hyundai logo on front for home games and great southern bank on front for away.
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Yeah it's a decent theory, but something that I'm struggling to believe couldn't be thrashed out over the off-season to come to an arrangement that works for everyone.
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I was saying the theory doesn’t work, the clash jumper has the same sponsors as the away sponsors jumper, meaning they could easily switch last minute to the white kit without upsetting the sponsors.
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Yep, I was agreeing with you.
There may be a few issues where a sponsor prefers their logo on one guernsey or the other, but I find it hard to believe they couldn't be resolved.
Ergh this matchup
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If Melbourne want to wear the light blue yoke as its main clash(which btw, doesn't work well at all), then they need another clash uniform for WB and the Eagles.
Would probably do the job with red shorts
Would probably do the job with red shorts
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Ridiculous. Melbourne need a clash strip.
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Also need a proper clash policy, this league is stuck in the stone age though pandering to tradition over common sense
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just a straight inverse would be better.If Melbourne want to wear the light blue yoke as its main clash(which btw, doesn't work well at all), then they need another clash uniform for WB and the Eagles.
Would probably do the job with red shorts
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I was watching the Richmond-Bulldogs game for a bit on Saturday.
And even though there wasn't much of clash. What I noticed in regards to Richmond was that when the camera was in close, the Yellow stood out, but on the long, wide shots, it is ALOT less noticable.
I'd hate watching a Richmond home vs Carlton/Essendon away game in the nosebleeds. As dark with yellow (sash) vs dark with white (shorts) would make it a nightmare from afar (ie. Back of the grand stands)
And even though there wasn't much of clash. What I noticed in regards to Richmond was that when the camera was in close, the Yellow stood out, but on the long, wide shots, it is ALOT less noticable.
I'd hate watching a Richmond home vs Carlton/Essendon away game in the nosebleeds. As dark with yellow (sash) vs dark with white (shorts) would make it a nightmare from afar (ie. Back of the grand stands)
It was good to see Collingwood in their real jumpers the other night.
The glossy white and black looks great. The AFL should make them wear it much for often
The glossy white and black looks great. The AFL should make them wear it much for often
At least 4or 5 occasions where teams handballed to the wrong player in WC vs Melbourne today. Simply inexcusable in a professional competition. As a spectator in the middle tier it was also hard to watch.
Another awful clash, and again a team in white shorts when away.
Acrao the ridiculous policy and ensure the actual jumpers dont clash, and then match the shorts to the clash jumper.
Acrao the ridiculous policy and ensure the actual jumpers dont clash, and then match the shorts to the clash jumper.
And then today you unexpectedly get this. Beautiful. Amazing. Perfect
Hawks could have so easily been in white shorts and geelong blue.
But they get it 100% correct
How?
Hawks could have so easily been in white shorts and geelong blue.
But they get it 100% correct
How?
I think that’s due to Hawthorn’s long enduring policy of never wanting to wear white. I remember back in the 90s everyone would wear them away except for Hawthorn and Sydney and not sure why that was accepted.
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Carlton must be in the white, there's no way even the AFL would sign off on that
