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Coach Justin Longmuir Pt 2
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Purple Jesus
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Thats exactly why i turned off him. He doesn’t have the required edge.
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I disagree. He's too risk averse, but I think he'll be the guy that takes us to a flag.
King Huskii
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I bloody hope so
I've been with Freo since day 1
We missed a golden opportunity with Lyon and hope this opportunity gets us there
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Regardless of your take on JL, what's the "narrative" sought to be removed? Like maybe this will change as we roll into next year, but currently there isn't the same narrative about JL's job that there was last year and especially leading into pre-season this year.
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Interesting article but I think McManus’s argument reads more like why he shouldn’t be extended yet. Lots of great reasons why we should succeed no doubt, but until the proof is in the results & the way the coaches are using the talent, I think an extension shouldn’t be looked at until the bye next season, at least.
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I don't agree with McManus; the narrative SHOULD be there. Because the pressure SHOULD be there. This club has failed to succeed for numerous years; it entered a list rebuild at the end of 2016 suddenly and went into semi-freefall under Lyon until they jettisoned him in 2019.
But the past is the past. Exactly that. Justin is under pressure to get this club into finals and challenging with what looks like a capable and talented list, and that narrative should be finals or bust. He's had 5 previous season at the helm, he needs to show he can handle it and he can bottle it, and use it to energise himself; his fellow coaches, the players, and lastly, the fans....
No more excuses. It's now (2025), or it's goodbye...
But the past is the past. Exactly that. Justin is under pressure to get this club into finals and challenging with what looks like a capable and talented list, and that narrative should be finals or bust. He's had 5 previous season at the helm, he needs to show he can handle it and he can bottle it, and use it to energise himself; his fellow coaches, the players, and lastly, the fans....
No more excuses. It's now (2025), or it's goodbye...
wakojako
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We aren't missing the top 8 with our list people. The issue is determining if our 'success' was because of the list or coaching. I guess that will depend on how deep we go into finals.
Nothing less than a top 4 finish and winning 1 final.
We were only two games from making top 4 this past season. 4th Youngest squad with Bolton coming into the side.
Purple Jesus
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I really do hope I’m wrong.
chaosball32
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I don’t understand why so many are advocating for another 1 year extension. Yeah you know that thing we did this year that didn’t work and ended up being totally pointless, yeah let’s do that again next year - and while we’re at it, would you mind reminding me what the definition of insanity is?
A good coach is a good coach not due to an absence of pressure, but in spite of the pressure. If JL can’t handle the pressure of expectations in a contract year then that proves he isn’t the man for the job. We can’t just keep giving out these little time-biding faux extensions that scream “we don’t have confidence in you, but we don’t have the balls to make the tough decision and sack you either”
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Not sure how you’ve come to that conclusion. He verbatim says “If I was the club I would extend by a year just to get rid of that narrative. I just can’t see how they can’t have a good year.” Which I think is a ridiculous statement.
Strongly disagree, an extension shouldn’t even be considered until the end of the season. Extensions midway through the season aren’t a good idea, just ask Port fans. What happens if we have a similar season to this year, where we are top 4 midway through the year, extend JL, then crash out late and miss finals altogether again? Then we’ve re-signed a coach who’s made finals once in 6 years.
A top-6 finish, ideally top-4, and winning a final should be the minimum for JL to remain coach in 2026. I still argue that should have been the expectation this year.
"Excuses" aren't a thing. Something either impacts performance or it doesn't. And that's down to evidence.
Overloading the pressure index does not aid performance, in fact it does the opposite.
That said, we are fairly well primed to make a major assault on the premiership next year, but we do so with a lot of reliance on youth. Outcomes aren't the only consideration.
If the stars align health-wise for the squad it would definitely put Longmuir on think ice should we not perform at a close or anove a top-4 level.
Longmuir will have a lot of scope with those with good footy knowledge within the club. But boards, like fans, can get itchy trigger fingers... and they're the ones who pull out the guillotines.
I thought our list was finals worthy this year and we still didn't make it...
wakojako
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I didn't, KPFs were too young and no small forwards. Lots of positives though with the emergence of Young and Draper. Just need Amiss, Jackson and Johnson are the key players that need to improve next year.I thought our list was finals worthy this year and we still didn't make it...
I would add Darcy to the must improve list too (get fit) Cox needs to be fit and could use some urgency in general. Clark needs to be more disciplined at times.
There is still plenty of improvement left in most of our players under 27yo.
There is plenty of upside from the players within the team and the coach hopefully can make the most of the talent available to him. 2025 top 4 or bust for JLo.
Perfect Purple
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I suspect that the Club will once again extend a further year to JL on the eve of the 2025 H & A season. This will be primarily to call off the media dogs who would otherwise cause as much distraction as possible to our season with their speculation.
I think the fact that they will be getting so many Docker supporters renewing their membership early in addition to the new members coming on board will contribute to the extra year extension.
The excitement in the air from the addition of Bolton is so palpable you can almost taste it!
I think the fact that they will be getting so many Docker supporters renewing their membership early in addition to the new members coming on board will contribute to the extra year extension.
The excitement in the air from the addition of Bolton is so palpable you can almost taste it!
chaosball32
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Giving him another 1-year extension would cause more media scrutiny, not less. He’s done nothing to earn two extensions, two years in a row off the back of two disappointing seasons. How many free swings are we gonna give JL before we grow a backbone and become a more ruthless club?
The coach shouldn’t even be paying attention to what the media is saying about him, and those criticisms don’t suddenly go away regardless of his contract status.
Well it got the bloodhounds off us this year.
What PP is saying is we don’t need such diversions.
I don’t agree with your two disappointing seasons at all. This past season was very good and only derailed by key injuries ; otherwise we were legitimately looking at a home qualifying final.
Already we are getting too much positive press merely off a super acquisition. The media will insist on getting back to “business as usual” Freo bashing and what better subject matter than to get into Justin Longmuir again.
A new one year contract did the trick earlier this year and I’m all for it again.
chaosball32
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Don’t agree with you at all, but we can agree to disagree. Not really in the mood to argue.
I’m not even necessarily JL out, but I am absolutely against giving him another contract extension before the season starts, no way. It didn’t work the first time and he’s done nothing to earn it. It’s a stupid idea that shows the media have more leverage than they ought to have. He should feel the pressure, 1 finals campaign in 5 years for JL and 1 finals campaign in 9 years for the club and you wanna lock him in for another 2 years just to stick it to the media?
Thing is, it's not like a player getting offered a contract late and them deciding to go to a new club. We can give J-lo a contract extension at the end of the year depending on what happens. Not like he is running off to coach somewhere else.
100% if we don’t make finals he’s a dead duck….if we make finals and win one he gets a couple of years
We’ll have every prospective coach in the league lined up to coach that list.
We’ll have every prospective coach in the league lined up to coach that list.
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