Coach Justin Longmuir Pt 2

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What do we think of the slow starts and subsequent comeback to blow teams off the park?

I’m honestly at a loss as to how to classify them. Tactical genius or not getting enough out of players at the start? It’s such a long history of it now back to 2022 and that final. Is he changing things up, moving tactics like a football savant or is it mainly Merrimans fitness coming through?

The Shinboner did a bit of look into JL changing positional depth against North but that’s a one-off. I’d love for a deep dive into it because it should be a pretty interesting topic. Sadly we’ll never get that level of effort in AFL media
In the game against Brissy, just before our first goal Alex Pearce receives the ball, possibly from a switch (I'm going off memory alone here..) and he starts going forward with it, but he's looking like he wants to dish it off; like he's indecisive with it. Now last year I reckon he would have tried to maybe kick it sideways or back. But instead he piledrives it forward to Treacy who's close to the boundary/wing and he takes a falling mark and then Cyclone immediately dishes off a clever handball to Sharp who's observably stalking the wing behind him, as he wheels and bombs the ball in quickly, chaos style. The ensuing crumb results in a goal to new found 'goalsneak' Bailey Banfield who kicks the first goal of season 2024 for Freo. The first goal!

I wonder what odds you'd have got for Bailey to be the opening goalscorer?!?!

Another quick snap out of stoppage minutes later and Switta is on the board. From then on we started taking the game off Brisbane, we gave them some serious heat in the midfield and when we got it off them and spread we moved with some precision especially getting the ball inside 50. That goal to Amiss late in the 2nd, Ryan (who seems to have been 'bombing' less) dishes off to Clark in the middle with a great kick and Clark fires it down the throat of Amiss - it's just lovely quick-thinking play. And only really the compounded moments of fatigue plus injuries meant Brisbane got within 4 goals. It should have, and could have been a lot worse (for them).

The reason I'm highlighting this is because I think it's a pivotal moment in that game, that reminds me of 2022 (Brodie falling over but getting quick hands out) that you mentioned we saw elements of this then - except they're a year and a bit older (wiser) now. 2023 was crap, but maybe it was a needed baptism of fire to send voltage through the system, coupled with some important structural losses (Mundy, Acres...dare I say it...Lobb. Rory Knobb!).

"Kids" are tougher, fitter and mentally stronger. They didn't 'back off' or go in a shell, Pearce looking fitter and stronger than ever almost exemplified that ethos by driving the kick forwards, belief in himself and creating an opportunity which out of nothing became a goal. Man he played like a person possessed against Fadelaide, worked up in some kind of super-human frenzy! Jeez, we need more of this!! Feed this to us like a jelly beans addict!

This precedent of taking the game off the opposition then continues in the next 2 games despite being behind in all of them (not so badly against the Crows albeit..). The opposition (to date) simply cannot prevent us from overhauling them. North impress with some run' n gun and we look all at sea. I think late in the 2nd, or maybe halfway through Andy gets run down in a tackle (something normally his trademark) and he gets up, and I reckon he's angry. Because up to then he'd been fairly ordinary or certainly not at his expected level and he just goes ballistic and starts dragging the Dockers back into it from that point onwards. We completely take the sting out of North, halt the speed of the game and start generating scoring shots from inside 50s that go through. Suddenly the game is flipped on its head. Against the Crows, they try a similar thing; throwing the first punches. The fight is scrappy, but Freo says "hit me then!" and gets up, bloodied...but ready to fight! They're ready to fight this time.

It's impossible to know the exact reason we have sluggish starts or can't dominate early, but I wholly agree with J-Lo when he states I'd rather be in front at the end of the 4th than the 1st like the opposition teams. If it means sacrificing it, so be it....I doubt it's done deliberately, Freo just sometimes look like they're cold to begin with and then rev up!

The fact they're winning the games when they're looking on the ropes is what's caught the eye, and I definitely think the midfield tweaks are what have helped. The bodies are bigger, hardened and perhaps much fitter than 12 or so months ago. Also that bit older/experienced.

But we've got to credit J-Lo and his coaching staff for the summer program, the players dedication to it and the reality is it's been stacking up in games where we've been severely tested. I don't care the oppo fans who still sneer upon us ("oh, they're all easy games you've had to this point.."). Nah, not buying it brah - every game an underdog can rise up and test a favourite - play well and cause an upset. AFL football is a physically taxing game and any moment if you're not switched on your opponents can hurt you - bottom of the ladder or top. I'm pretty sure Hawthorn beat Collingwood, West Coast beat GWS and Bulldogs away last year against the odds. Although saying that West Coke look even more garbage than last year.....

Brisbane were certainly the bookies pick to win Round 1.

It wouldn't hurt to be in front ALL game....please!! But in reality, I just hope they keep winning. Something is clicking, not sure how or exactly why and they're still so 'young'. So....

Another 12 months, look out. Bloody hell!!
 
What do we think of the slow starts and subsequent comeback to blow teams off the park?

I’m honestly at a loss as to how to classify them. Tactical genius or not getting enough out of players at the start? It’s such a long history of it now back to 2022 and that final. Is he changing things up, moving tactics like a football savant or is it mainly Merrimans fitness coming through?

The Shinboner did a bit of look into JL changing positional depth against North but that’s a one-off. I’d love for a deep dive into it because it should be a pretty interesting topic. Sadly we’ll never get that level of effort in AFL media
either way i'd like it to stop to help my emotions
 
People are too worried about coaches showing personality in the media that they forget the important part is having the trust and word of the players that they're going to go out there every single week and put their bodies on the line for the team, it's clear to me that the players are playing for Longmuir.

I don't care how charismatic Longmuir is in the media, that's not his job, his job is to be a coach, I highly doubt who he is in front of the media is who he is in front of the players.
This. 👍🏻
Buckley said on the coach after we extended JLo you don’t really think the Jlo we see in the media is one the players see, listen and talk too. It’s just not.
 

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This. 👍🏻
Buckley said on the coach after we extended JLo you don’t really think the Jlo we see in the media is one the players see, listen and talk too. It’s just not.
You mean the couch, or the coach?!

Not a fan of the Brad Coach, but they reckon one day he might make a good senior couch :tearsofjoy:
 
In the game against Brissy, just before our first goal Alex Pearce receives the ball, possibly from a switch (I'm going off memory alone here..) and he starts going forward with it, but he's looking like he wants to dish it off; like he's indecisive with it. Now last year I reckon he would have tried to maybe kick it sideways or back. But instead he piledrives it forward to Treacy who's close to the boundary/wing and he takes a falling mark and then Cyclone immediately dishes off a clever handball to Sharp who's observably stalking the wing behind him, as he wheels and bombs the ball in quickly, chaos style. The ensuing crumb results in a goal to new found 'goalsneak' Bailey Banfield who kicks the first goal of season 2024 for Freo. The first goal!

I wonder what odds you'd have got for Bailey to be the opening goalscorer?!?!

Another quick snap out of stoppage minutes later and Switta is on the board. From then on we started taking the game off Brisbane, we gave them some serious heat in the midfield and when we got it off them and spread we moved with some precision especially getting the ball inside 50. That goal to Amiss late in the 2nd, Ryan (who seems to have been 'bombing' less) dishes off to Clark in the middle with a great kick and Clark fires it down the throat of Amiss - it's just lovely quick-thinking play. And only really the compounded moments of fatigue plus injuries meant Brisbane got within 4 goals. It should have, and could have been a lot worse (for them).

The reason I'm highlighting this is because I think it's a pivotal moment in that game, that reminds me of 2022 (Brodie falling over but getting quick hands out) that you mentioned we saw elements of this then - except they're a year and a bit older (wiser) now. 2023 was crap, but maybe it was a needed baptism of fire to send voltage through the system, coupled with some important structural losses (Mundy, Acres...dare I say it...Lobb. Rory Knobb!).

"Kids" are tougher, fitter and mentally stronger. They didn't 'back off' or go in a shell, Pearce looking fitter and stronger than ever almost exemplified that ethos by driving the kick forwards, belief in himself and creating an opportunity which out of nothing became a goal. Man he played like a person possessed against Fadelaide, worked up in some kind of super-human frenzy! Jeez, we need more of this!! Feed this to us like a jelly beans addict!

This precedent of taking the game off the opposition then continues in the next 2 games despite being behind in all of them (not so badly against the Crows albeit..). The opposition (to date) simply cannot prevent us from overhauling them. North impress with some run' n gun and we look all at sea. I think late in the 2nd, or maybe halfway through Andy gets run down in a tackle (something normally his trademark) and he gets up, and I reckon he's angry. Because up to then he'd been fairly ordinary or certainly not at his expected level and he just goes ballistic and starts dragging the Dockers back into it from that point onwards. We completely take the sting out of North, halt the speed of the game and start generating scoring shots from inside 50s that go through. Suddenly the game is flipped on its head. Against the Crows, they try a similar thing; throwing the first punches. The fight is scrappy, but Freo says "hit me then!" and gets up, bloodied...but ready to fight! They're ready to fight this time.

It's impossible to know the exact reason we have sluggish starts or can't dominate early, but I wholly agree with J-Lo when he states I'd rather be in front at the end of the 4th than the 1st like the opposition teams. If it means sacrificing it, so be it....I doubt it's done deliberately, Freo just sometimes look like they're cold to begin with and then rev up!

The fact they're winning the games when they're looking on the ropes is what's caught the eye, and I definitely think the midfield tweaks are what have helped. The bodies are bigger, hardened and perhaps much fitter than 12 or so months ago. Also that bit older/experienced.

But we've got to credit J-Lo and his coaching staff for the summer program, the players dedication to it and the reality is it's been stacking up in games where we've been severely tested. I don't care the oppo fans who still sneer upon us ("oh, they're all easy games you've had to this point.."). Nah, not buying it brah - every game an underdog can rise up and test a favourite - play well and cause an upset. AFL football is a physically taxing game and any moment if you're not switched on your opponents can hurt you - bottom of the ladder or top. I'm pretty sure Hawthorn beat Collingwood, West Coast beat GWS and Bulldogs away last year against the odds. Although saying that West Coke look even more garbage than last year.....

Brisbane were certainly the bookies pick to win Round 1.

It wouldn't hurt to be in front ALL game....please!! But in reality, I just hope they keep winning. Something is clicking, not sure how or exactly why and they're still so 'young'. So....

Another 12 months, look out. Bloody hell!!
I think the criticism was totally justified after 2023, and the list is too good to be
playing poorly. It was obviously gameplan, positioning of players and that’s on the
Head coach.
It’s also no coincidence that changes were made, and that is the difference.
It was make or break for JLo and that is how clubs create greatness.
The same pressure has also lifted our Captains performance and forged the club.
I’ll still be questioning certain issues that I have a problem with, but I’m happy
that JLo is growing, and the team seems united.
 
I think the criticism was totally justified after 2023, and the list is too good to be
playing poorly. It was obviously gameplan, positioning of players and that’s on the
Head coach.
It’s also no coincidence that changes were made, and that is the difference.
It was make or break for JLo and that is how clubs create greatness.
The same pressure has also lifted our Captains performance and forged the club.
I’ll still be questioning certain issues that I have a problem with, but I’m happy
that JLo is growing, and the team seems united.

Is the more liberal game plan to do with Bell taking a step away into another role? or just a coincidence .
 
I don't think the game plan has changed at all.

Your'e probably right, but they just seem to be more confident in taking risks. Seem more of the chain. More liberal ! <<
 
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This. 👍🏻
Buckley said on the coach after we extended JLo you don’t really think the Jlo we see in the media is one the players see, listen and talk too. It’s just not.
Of course it's not just the coach we see in the media. It's the coach we see in the coaches' box, on the sidelines, in the dugout etc

When we are going badly people make straw man arguments.
When we are going well different people make straw man arguments.
 
Of course it's not just the coach we see in the media. It's the coach we see in the coaches' box, on the sidelines, in the dugout etc

When we are going badly people make straw man arguments.
When we are going well different people make straw man arguments.
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It’s not rocket surgery to figure out why we’re better. We have Fyfe at the coalface. When Mundy retired & without Fyfe the mids got smashed & we were on the back foot constantly.

Plus Pearce & Ryan & to an extent Cox were out of form & confidence. Pearce is back to his best & Ryan is taking the game on again with flair.

Lastly we have an actual winger again with Sharp replacing Acres gut running & discipline.

I’m sure there’s more but those 3 things alone are the difference between our gameplan coming off or not.
 
It’s not rocket surgery to figure out why we’re better. We have Fyfe at the coalface. When Mundy retired & without Fyfe the mids got smashed & we were on the back foot constantly.

Plus Pearce & Ryan & to an extent Cox were out of form & confidence. Pearce is back to his best & Ryan is taking the game on again with flair.

Lastly we have an actual winger again with Sharp replacing Acres gut running & discipline.

I’m sure there’s more but those 3 things alone are the difference between our gameplan coming off or not.
last season the equation for us was essentially win clearances, win the game. we basically won every game we won the clearances, and lost every single game we lost them I believe. feels reductive at times but that's essentially what it boils down to under JL
 
It’s not rocket surgery to figure out why we’re better. We have Fyfe at the coalface. When Mundy retired & without Fyfe the mids got smashed & we were on the back foot constantly.

Plus Pearce & Ryan & to an extent Cox were out of form & confidence. Pearce is back to his best & Ryan is taking the game on again with flair.

Lastly we have an actual winger again with Sharp replacing Acres gut running & discipline.

I’m sure there’s more but those 3 things alone are the difference between our gameplan coming off or not.
I agree with all that but perhaps the biggest factor is that in terms of experience/age/cohesion the team as a whole are now entering the peak zone. It really does look like a team effort in 2024.
 
I agree with all that but perhaps the biggest factor is that in terms of experience/age/cohesion the team as a whole are now entering the peak zone. It really does look like a team effort in 2024.
It was written somewhere here, that next year a number of the guys are hitting the 100 game mark, think Youngy was one. And I think it's Purple Eyes that bangs on about that 50 game+ range (sorry P/E!), but I think it's fair. No substitute for experience and more experienced bodies in there crashing around and feeling confident they can out-muscle the opposition. And of course the more a group plays together, the more cohesive and tight-knit it becomes as you say.....and then you need bit of the ole magic kismet along the way, things just falling into alignment; right place right time.

I guess time will be the great revealer ;)
 
JLo has a lot of work to do this week to lift our players. Mentally some will be messed up and angry.
I was too upset to listen to his press conference. From articles I believe he directly pointed the finger at Clark. I’m a bit annoyed with him not standing by our players.
 
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JLo has a lot of work to do this week to lift our players. Mentally some will be messed up and angry.
I was too upset to listen to his press conference. From articles I believe he directly pointed the finger at Clark. I’m a bit annoyed with him not standing by our players.
Clark isn't mentioned specifically other than to say 'it was another thing we got wrong'.
 
Clark isn't mentioned specifically other than to say 'it was another thing we got wrong'.
"I think it was against 'Clarky' (Jordan Clark). I'll have to dig a little bit deeper, but we should have just got on with it, even if they weren't happy with the call before," Longmuir said.
 
"I think it was against 'Clarky' (Jordan Clark). I'll have to dig a little bit deeper, but we should have just got on with it, even if they weren't happy with the call before," Longmuir said.

No AFL coach is going to come out and say what Clark did was a good idea. As understandable as it was, it cost us the opportunity to try and kick another goal in the last minute. Clark needs to own it and grow from it.

Think JL was pretty measured about it in the presser tbh.
 

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