Coach Justin Longmuir

[bfff]

Better than Fagan and Clarkson and they both have jobs.

From my memory, Pyke endorsed the camp but didn’t know what went down would.

That's concerning, isn't it? That he didn't know what the camp entailed?

 

[trentjac]

That's concerning, isn't it? That he didn't know what the camp entailed?

This was his take

“The value for us for mind training is that we have made a lot of progression in the physical side, whether it be a weights program, conditioning program, our skill and game program,” Adelaide coach Don Pyke said last year.

“The frontier that hasn’t been tapped into considerably is the mind space.

“A lot of our time is historically spent on the mind. And we think getting our players aware of the mind and the role that plays in performance was really vital. We’ve just unlocked the door and it’s an area we want to continue to expand on.”

Doubt he could have foreseen what went down. He was the scape goat for sure.

The program was also implemented at other sporting clubs including the Rabbitohs and plenty of large corporate firms.

It’s not like he created the program to cause issues within the club and/or playing group

 

[Freo Shark]

Something has gotta changed with JLo & by that Bell as well. JLo was Bells invisible hands up the boards asses.

Freo has some weird bait n switch going on. Give u a great season, then sock u one the next.

Frankly getting browned off with Freo, more to life than watching this shit week to week.

 

[estibador]

Pyke also had crows playing a very exciting brand at the crows and he would be my choice I reckon.

Yep, mine too in this hypothetical world where we're replacing JLo.

The camp and power stance are mistakes that are easily reflected on and learnt from. His actual coaching seemed top class until then. He had Adelaide humming with an attacking style that very much fits the modern day ethos.

And since then he's been an assistant at Sydney which would have to be one of the best cultures in the AFL to learn from.

 

[Freomaniac]

Yep.

But with that you now also have to tie in list management, again ,(sigh) to it as major consequence of actions taken last October.

At least we had our first top 10 pick for quite some time to look fwd to at the end of 16.

We’ve gifted melbourne a top 5-7 pick in what’s universally regarded as not just a strong draft but one where most of the top prospects are fwds including a couple from WA .

In a full list rebuild you just don’t get enough chances to botch more than 1 draft , especially if your freo (as we don’t get any f/s gifts and academy selections are pointless now)

And we already blew ours
with the hogan debacle costing us a gun kpf

Now history’s repeating itself and we ll miss out at ANOTHER chance of getting one again this year , meaning our continued entire club history of shitfulness when it comes to fwds and kpf in particular (outside of one of course) Carry’s on

Why won’t this f***ing club ever learn?

We never will learn. If we did, we would of won a Premiership already

 

[Freomaniac]

I get all that which is why I used that as an example. the challenge with North during that period is I don't think anyone thought they would actually win a flag.

I am asking why you think that will be us? Or, why you don't think we will even reach those levels?

Do you see Justin Longmuir challenging for a flag with this current dockers outfit?

 

[Quazar]

Mate keep this s**t to yourself.

Do you have anything worthy to bring besides stats and bets.

 

[AstonSouffle]

Do we think Peter Sumich would have been able to be a stronger leader than JLo has been this entire time?

 

[Dockeroo]

For me defeat this weekend and he’s just about gone.
Even if he sticks around it will be in body not in spirit. A dead man walking metaphorically.
Victory, depending on the manner of it, could buy him some time.
Lose and there’s no coming back from 1-4 given expectations before season started.
It wouldn’t just be the losses. It’s the WAY we have lost that’s the real issue.

 

[Fat Nyfe]

He's a dreadful communicator in every public forum and I kinda thought it's just a nerves/camera thing and behind closed doors he must be great with players. But maybe not? Maybe he's actually a bit thick and just umms and ahhs with the players?? He comes across really amateurish and has for years now. If you're not a master tactician and you're not a great communicator, what are you as a coach?

This is what has bothered me from day dot. Everyone goes “oh he’s just nervous in front of cameras, he’d be better with the players”
But maybe if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…?

He’s unlistenable in every public forum I’ve heard. Tv interviews, post match, Doig speeches. I cannot listen to him talk it’s too painful. I read the transcripts.
Being a good coach is more than 50% being a good communicator. Being able to clearly outline your gameplan to the players in a way that gives them confidence. Being able to fire them up. I’m not buying into (and never have tbh) the idea that he’s different behind closed doors. He’s the same friggen guy that we’ve seen for 4 years. Nervy, mumbly and softly spoken.

He’s a nice guy, probably relates well with the players and reading what he says tells you he has a lot of good things to say and has a football mind. He’d be a great assistant coach, and he was. Not cut out to be a head coach though IMO. Unfortunately for us.

 

[poshman]

Do you see Justin Longmuir challenging for a flag with this current dockers outfit?

I think our Captain is an issue skills wise and we need another forward. I have never been sold on JL, although I want him to do well. Last season further impressed on me that we will struggle to win due to play style. We got rid of Lyon and replaced him with another defensive coach who plays a game plan straight from the Simpson/Buckley play book. That style hasn't won anything since 2018.

So no I don't suppose I do.

I am asking you because you are just saying you don't or we won't but I have not seen any reasons given.

 

[freo1997]

Do you see Justin Longmuir challenging for a flag with this current dockers outfit?

Nothing wrong with the outfit. The list is there. The tactics are no good.

 

[freo1997]

Civil War is coming!!!!

Bell vs Jlo

One camp will blame Tactics and Strategy and the other list management.

 

[freo1997]

Was hoping he would swallow his pride and change his gameplan. Looks like he’s sticking with it making the players come out and say it’s a mindset thing.

 

[nurries]

Was hoping he would swallow his pride and change his gameplan. Looks like he’s sticking with it making the players come out and say it’s a mindset thing.

We will see I guess

 

[freo1997]

We will see I guess

He is a stubborn stubborn coach.

 

[Joao]

Do we think Peter Sumich would have been able to be a stronger leader than JLo has been this entire time?

I reckon it would have been comedy. Mostly for the rest of the league but I reckon we'd have our moments as well.

 

[Outshined]

Was hoping he would swallow his pride and change his gameplan. Looks like he’s sticking with it making the players come out and say it’s a mindset thing.

Do you really think Longmuir is telling the players what to say to the media?

And do you really think they're just going to blatantly undermine the coach?

It would be refreshing if they were just brutally honest in assessing our problems but let's be real, you can't take anything players say at face value.

 

[royale with cheese]

Yep, mine too in this hypothetical world where we're replacing JLo.

The camp and power stance are mistakes that are easily reflected on and learnt from. His actual coaching seemed top class until then. He had Adelaide humming with an attacking style that very much fits the modern day ethos.

And since then he's been an assistant at Sydney which would have to be one of the best cultures in the AFL to learn from.

If Clarkson can still coach after the allegations against him …

And Lyon can still coach after the budding boobs remark …

And Brad Scott can coach another team based out of Marvel after his long feud with that stadium’s roof …

Then Pyke deserves another chance.

 

[Big Animal]

i heard the hierarchy has J Graham as next in line. Bit worrying when he is the current forwards coach. Though I don't imagine he gets to pick his forward line or coach how the ball gets down there.

 

[wakojako]

i heard the hierarchy has J Graham as next in line. Bit worrying when he is the current forwards coach. Though I don't imagine he gets to pick his forward line or coach how the ball gets down there.

He is part of the problem. Why are the forwards so stationary and play with no cohesion.

 

[s_wd6]

i heard the hierarchy has J Graham as next in line. Bit worrying when he is the current forwards coach. Though I don't imagine he gets to pick his forward line or coach how the ball gets down there.

He’s got 100% winning record as a coach tbf

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

i heard the hierarchy has J Graham as next in line. Bit worrying when he is the current forwards coach. Though I don't imagine he gets to pick his forward line or coach how the ball gets down there.

I mean, the club often doesnt make smart decisions but surely they've seen that promoting an internal assistant coach in an underperforming team will fail just about every time...

 

[Nothing]

I mean, the club often doesnt make smart decisions but surely they've seen that promoting an internal assistant coach in an underperforming team will fail just about every time...

"I like those odds" Peter Bell.

 

[Square Peg]

I mean, the club often doesnt make smart decisions but surely they've seen that promoting an internal assistant coach in an underperforming team will fail just about every time...

Yeah I mean surely if this is true at all (big if), it could only be that were JLo to be sacked in the 2023 season, Graham is in line to be the temporary coach to see the club though to the end of the season whilst they search for a proper replacement for next year.