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kane johnson
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Originally posted by hilly
Considering he's leaving anyway, the Crows should just accept any old deal for him, rather than looking silly by letting him go for free.
So how about it OK.Crows: SA champ Stuart Cochrane back home for Kane
.....brilliant call
Just my opinion of what I think a fit ND would do at Collingwood if he was settled. I nkow he had a poor year but unfit and unsettled he kicked more goals in less games with less match time than most players in the AFL did in a full, fit season. IMO he is the best non key position forward in the AFL and his best position is not even forward. He is a midfielder who reads the play well, is a good mark and great kick. I am a huge rap for him. I have 2 hopes for Collingwood this off season. Keep Nick Davis and get a quality ruckman. I am prepared to let the former go to achieve the latter but if not I will be be bleeding.
I do rate Johnson highly but Collingwood have a deep midfield. He would be handy but is not what we need.
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I'm like Mark - Nick will end up much better value to us and win us much more games. Id prefer a 50 goal half forward flanker (something ND is capable of) than another 20 possie a game midfielder.
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Mcalister damn your eyes!!! He's worth two of bourke!
This is extremely disappointing news however with someone like Sugar's talent I know we'll get something good for him. If it means securing Carey then that'll be good but I don't think we'll have to give up anything more than Johnson - that would be my absolute limit. Hopefully we get a deal done with North about Carey before we start negotiating with other clubs about Johnson so then it'll be a big "auction" for him and we'll end up with something really good.
Good luck Kane wherever you end up!
Good luck Kane wherever you end up!
Fair enough that Kane wants to go home, but it bugs me that ex-SA players like Luke Darcey aren't pining to get back here!
Good luck to Kane, but let's hope his hamstrings break down everytime he's due to play against Adelaide!
Good luck to Kane, but let's hope his hamstrings break down everytime he's due to play against Adelaide!
If you're talking about Kane Johnson going to North then I think he has already said he won't go and North have said they can't afford him.
It doesn't sound like he'll go to North as part of the Carey trade, because the Kangaroos apparently don't have the room in their salary cap (I don't understand why, Carey would have left a gaping hole, wouldn't he?).
It is disappointing, but he always said Adelaide would never be home to him and he has given us great service, so we should be grateful for that.
All the best, Kane!
It is disappointing, but he always said Adelaide would never be home to him and he has given us great service, so we should be grateful for that.
All the best, Kane!
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Of course he will be part of the Carey deal
Johnson to whatever teams he wants\wants him
That teams first draft pick to North
Carey to Adelaide
Just need to find out who wants Kane Johnson - sounds like the Tiges from what I hear in the media
I don't think so ok.crows
Carey to Crows
Johnson to Tigers
Pick no 4 (from Tigers)
That sounds more like a Carey trade.
Carey to Crows
Johnson to Tigers
Pick no 4 (from Tigers)
That sounds more like a Carey trade.
It might to you, but as I posted on another thread, according to media reports -
Extract from an article by Chief Football Writer MICHELANGELO RUCCI (Advertiser)
The Kangaroos have in the past stated Carey is worth a club trading away its first-round pick in November's AFL draft.
While Collingwood and Sydney baulked at that price, Adelaide remains likely to consider trading Carey for its first call, at No. 14, in the national draft.
"We're still not prepared to say what we'll do with that," Trigg said of Adelaide's first-round draft pick.
... apparently even the Kangaroos are thinking an unspecified first-round pick is sufficient, the Crows are thinking maybe their #14 pick, and Sydney and Collingwood thought not even that much.
Pick #4 sounds awfully high to tme.
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It sounds a bit high for Kane Johnson too.
Perhaps, but I suppose you have to look at what the clubs are looking for.
The Tigers had a terrible year, after being prelim finalists the year before.
The Tigers need more quality midfielders. If they want to push for a Premership with the current squad of Ottens, Richo, Gaspar, Campbell still fit and in good age/form brachket, they don't want to wait for the No.4 pick to grow up in 3-4 years time and become a good player.
Same as why the Crows want Carey. A fit Carey into the Adelaide forward line could make the Crows a premiership team.
No. 4 pick doesn't cound to high to me.
The Tigers had a terrible year, after being prelim finalists the year before.
The Tigers need more quality midfielders. If they want to push for a Premership with the current squad of Ottens, Richo, Gaspar, Campbell still fit and in good age/form brachket, they don't want to wait for the No.4 pick to grow up in 3-4 years time and become a good player.
Same as why the Crows want Carey. A fit Carey into the Adelaide forward line could make the Crows a premiership team.
No. 4 pick doesn't cound to high to me.
You got No. 4 pick for Aaron Hamill, and Luke Livingston hasn't really set the world on fire yet, has he?
Whilst different types of player, I think Hamil and Johnston and at a compariable level in terms of trade value.
Whilst different types of player, I think Hamil and Johnston and at a compariable level in terms of trade value.
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Re: Obvious
us crows supporters should never ever be mentioned in the same breath as those collingwood supporters. We've known for a long time that hes wanted to go back home, so it hasnt really come as a surprise to us. We'll all be wishing him the best at his new club, just like we did with Vardy last year.
us crows supporters should never ever be mentioned in the same breath as those collingwood supporters. We've known for a long time that hes wanted to go back home, so it hasnt really come as a surprise to us. We'll all be wishing him the best at his new club, just like we did with Vardy last year.
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That's a damn early call. Let's talk in five years time.
Livingston was a 2000 draftee....outside the top 2 it was seen as a very weak draft and the Sainters knew that - they sure weren't going to give us pick 1 or 2. Hamill v Johnson - you are half right.....there is little difference in a football sense....but Hamill isn't/wasn't injury prone.
Kane Johnson is worth more than Carey.... if we only get Carey for him, I will be dissapointed.
And Bluecrow, the reason I think North couldnt fit Sugars in their salary cap is because I think they are only running on 92.5% of the salary cap to get AFL assistance. Youd think teams that are possibly sacrificing success for money, should possibly think what exactly are they doing in this league.
And Bluecrow, the reason I think North couldnt fit Sugars in their salary cap is because I think they are only running on 92.5% of the salary cap to get AFL assistance. Youd think teams that are possibly sacrificing success for money, should possibly think what exactly are they doing in this league.
YOU RECKON???
For a dual premiership player, coming over a year in which he almost made all-australian despite playing in one of the best midfields in the competition, all at the age of 24?????
he is worth the Blues No. 2 pick, and he is better credentialed than Hamill
Spornstar,
You are right about Johnston's injury prone status, I'll concede that.
Re: weak draft, this year's draft is also reputated to be a little thin on talent, hence why I think both Johnstone and Carey would be worth the 4th pick.
I don't think either of them are worth the 4th pick in lasts years super strong and deep draft.
I know it's an earl call on Livingstone, but that is what I was saying in my earlier post about why the Tigers might consider giving up pick 4 for Johnston. They want a quality player ready to go now, not in 5 years when Richo is best his best and Campell is gone, Gaspar starting to fade etc.
You are right about Johnston's injury prone status, I'll concede that.
Re: weak draft, this year's draft is also reputated to be a little thin on talent, hence why I think both Johnstone and Carey would be worth the 4th pick.
I don't think either of them are worth the 4th pick in lasts years super strong and deep draft.
I know it's an earl call on Livingstone, but that is what I was saying in my earlier post about why the Tigers might consider giving up pick 4 for Johnston. They want a quality player ready to go now, not in 5 years when Richo is best his best and Campell is gone, Gaspar starting to fade etc.
crazed_crow
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even the club will be dissappointed if we only get Carey. Johnson has about 10 years left in him, Carey only has about 2 or 3. The crows would be the BIG losers in that trade, IF it ever happened
The Spornstar
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Fair enough. I don't think pick 4 is a bad trade for Johnson....I really rate Johnson don't get me wrong. However, this year's draft at the top end is meant to be as strong as last year, it just doesn't have depth. The first 3 picks are meant to be rippers....don't know about pick 4.....
