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Knightmare's Collingwood List Management 2012
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Didak and Maxwell should be.
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What's the situation with Cam Wood for anyone who knows?
Is he going to be retained and offered a new deal?
Or are we going to put our faith in Witts and Ceglar?
Is he going to be retained and offered a new deal?
Or are we going to put our faith in Witts and Ceglar?
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There has been talk from other posters that Wood has another year to run on his deal but I can't say I know. Very much hoping this is not the case. Checking the player contract status 2012 thread I can't find any info.
If he has another year to run I'd be looking at unloading him onto a St Kilda or some other team lacking ruck depth for a 6th round/other irrelevant type draft selection to clear some room for Witts/Ceglar to play the primary ruck minutes at VFL level.
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I'm hoping that GWS get desperate with Gilles leaving and we can get a 4th rounder for him!
lol if Tippett leaves, Adelaide will make him a priority.
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This is my thought process also.
If he stays then maybe we can enter the mix but I wouldn't call us favourites even even we did express a strong interest.
Might as well keep the Wellingham's/Goldsack's among others for another year if we can't land a quality big of this variety.
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Talking about getting a 4th rounder for Wood from GWS.
Not giving up a 4th rounder for Gilles who now would be worth more after his season.
oh lol. Yeh a 4th rounder would do me fine for Wood too.
With all this talk of Lynch and Wellingham I hope the Pies are going after Giles/Z Clarke to find a replacement for Jolly in years to come.
I would love Giles at the Pies personally and would swap Wellingham for him in an instant.
What are you hearing Knightmare?
I would love Giles at the Pies personally and would swap Wellingham for him in an instant.
What are you hearing Knightmare?
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A number of the rookies are already gone: McNamara, Stubbs, Farmer, Cribbin and Smith.
Of the senior listed players I would have thought: Rounds and Wood (assuming he doesn't have another year on his contract) with Tarrant retired.
If open to making more list changes then Buckley and Ugle would be the next two to go.
Yagmoor I'd delist and rookie but I expect the club to keep him on the senior list.
J.Thomas, Young and Macaffer will also have their futures considered but hopefully they all receive another season.
Giles can be a no.1 ruckman but Z.Clarke I don't see as a potential Jolly replacement. He is an ok no.2 ruckman but as a no.1 ruckman is probably one of the worse options. Hitout numbers very poor and can't carry the load.
It sounds like Wellingham is going to West Coast. The feeling is he wants to move back to his home state (WA).
We likely end up with Quinten Lynch and that probably gets announced tomorrow.
Giles will most likely either stay/join Adelaide so while he would be a perfect fit I don't see it happening sadly.
There is certainly chance of getting a high level player at this stage.
The top 15 group is very even this year and maybe we can get one of these to slide to our selection.
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I very much doubt that Macaffer is in contention to be delisted. I'd have him in the 22 when fit, thats me, but I think at the very least is on the fringe of the 22.
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Agree would much rather Giles than Clarke, he's still too raw & is no certainty to make it(certainly not a number one ruck, reminds me a bit of Ceglar), rather Griffen but that ain't gunna happen.
If we are forced to deal with the Eagles, for the Boot, I don't really want Stevens or Swift but i do like Lycett.
No chance as he appears to be the heir apparent to Cox. However, Coxy has 2 (?) yrs left in him & now is the only time we might "sneak him" away from WC. Much as Syd did to the Cats with Mummy.
I would only contemplate this if we could get a Lynch/Martin/Pederson. I realise this goes against my opinion on Clarke but I'd be willing to risk it, knowing that we had insurance down the track in Lycett, Witts & Ceglar.
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comming back from a knee reco and not playing much AFL since 2010 his gonna have a pretty crappy 2013 (by his medium standards) i'd reckon. Would only keep if his prepared to take minimum wage. He can really only play the medium marking role and paine/elliot/fasolo will all go ahead of him next year and he'll be a spot clogger.
Good to keep for depth and not one i would delist unless he demands above 150k
Looks like this trade/free agency period is going to have our team in a completely different position to this year. Already with Lynch in the team we are in a great position going inside 50... It almost makes us exactly like West Coast - so long as we get our smalls right.
FF: Elliot, Dawes, Lynch/Jolly
HF: Krakouer, Cloke, Blair
with rotating mids
FF: Elliot, Dawes, Lynch/Jolly
HF: Krakouer, Cloke, Blair
with rotating mids
With Cloke and now Lynch secured, what is our greatest need or most damaging weakness?
With a nice pick seemingly heading our way for Wellingham, which way do we go?
Do we bolster the ruck situation, go after Caddy or pursue Tippett. Another option is to pick up an additional 18yo...
With a nice pick seemingly heading our way for Wellingham, which way do we go?
Do we bolster the ruck situation, go after Caddy or pursue Tippett. Another option is to pick up an additional 18yo...
I would say a defender that has elite kicking skills, and or someone with serious speed to go through the midfield.
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As a middle age player who hasn't played in two years and is probably not best 22 that is where the question comes. But I hope you're right. He is still a capable player and can play at AFL level even if not best 22 so I agree that he is depth at worse and certainly with the pressure he will put on the best 22 will be a good asset for at least next season.
Swift I don't rate. Hasn't improved at all since the age of 16 really. No best 22 potential. Stevens I have in the maybe pile but certainly would want more in a deal with the Eagles.
Lycett learning under Cox/Naitanui will have no trouble developing. Still a project though and being in the same age group as Ceglar/Witts/Gault I'd probably pass. But I do agree that he is an AFL quality player. We even with talented types don't seem not to have any success in developing our own ruckmen and until we can really demonstrate this it's probably better to go the established route.
I'm with shizzle that the defender with elite kicking skills is very high priority and probably for now the top priority.
I'd love another top 10 league ruckman - think Giles/McIntosh or some other immediate player. Not entirely sure how Jolly will hold up now as a 32 year old. It really feels like if we lose him we are out for the season and it's a pretty dangerous position to be in. Options however limited so we probably have to wait another year until we can address this need.
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I have:
HF: Didak Cloke Blair
F: Lynch Dawes Krakouer
Pretty handy forward group. Not the worst going around and more than enough to win with for now.
Paine will be pushing hard for selection with Goldsack, Elliott and Sinclair both in that mix as depth and likely to play plenty of games also.
Macaffer I get the feeling will be played more back next season and same with Gault but both very capable and in my view both better suited as forwards.
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Agree with this. We need players who can break the lines with speed or kicking skills.
The probable loss of Wellingham should be used as an opportunity to trade for one of these players and later draft picks should focus on these as we now seem to have an abundance of tall prospects.
I see what you did there you clever boy.
Stop it. You figured it out too.
Hey?
I have a gut feeling that Didak is done, I think we have discussed this already though. Definitely Goldsack would be best 22, I would rather have him on the bench though for his versatility. Macaffer I don't think has the skills we need coming out of the backline, however he is a pretty strong player and would be good cover for Harry, Shaw, Toov and I have no idea of Gaults kicking skills but I couldn't see him matching up well on anyone when we will have Keeffe/Brown, Reid, Goldsack and Toovey in the team.
Does Williams have the capacity to go straight back into the team next year? I had a feeling while he was playing that he just brought so much edge to our backline. We have a clean backline with not much mongrel and opposition players aren't exactly scared of anything other than Harry's run and Reid's read of the play. When Williams was there it just felt like we had a mini Leroy in the team. I would love to see him slot back in on the smaller types, in saying that though, he also doesn't have very good skills and I still feel like we need Fasolo back there if we don't pick someone up this preseason.
