Recommitted Kysaiah Pickett [Re-Signed till 2027]

[Elmer_Hauser]

how is a mid first round pick enough for Pickett. He's one of the best small forwards in the league and was taken at pick 12. In contract he's worth 2 top 10 picks. Out of contract, he's worth as much as Jackson which was 2 firsts.

Maybe something else thrown in too, but unfortunately your hands are tied with options of compensation if Kozi wants to join Freo or Port.

You are not going to get the haul you for Luke Jackson unfortunately.

Every club in the league alas has lost a quality and required player for perceived unders in a trade, I would honestly give up a top ten pick (and change) for Kozi as a Carlton supporter, unfortunately Port and Freo don't have their first round picks in 2023.

Your best bet for adequate/somewhat fair compo is if he nominates The Eagles, hope he stays at the Dees though

 

[danster168]

Maybe something else thrown in too, but unfortunately your hands are tied with options of compensation if Kozi wants to join Freo or Port.

You are not going to get the haul you for Luke Jackson unfortunately.

Every club in the league alas has lost a quality and required player for perceived unders in a trade, I would honestly give up a top ten pick (and change) for Kozi as a Carlton supporter, unfortunately Port and Freo don't have their first round picks in 2023.

Your best bet for adequate/somewhat fair compo is if he nominates The Eagles, hope he stays at the Dees though

well we got severely unders for Jackson remember. it wasn't a haul. it was a robbery. Yeah I understand that you'd give up a top 10 pick and change for Pickett. But Melbourne fans wouldn't. Nor would we give up him for two top 10 picks. It's only if he wants to go, which it seems like he may. I agree that its unfortunate but I can't think of any other teams that would've lost their 2 best young kids in 1 year both for drastic unders? And not getting a single pick in the top 10 for either. surely that's the first time in afl history.

But yeah, im resigned to getting unders because of what happened last year with Jackson. But we'll have 10 years worth of excuses should we hit rock bottom. I'd rather lose Petracca.

 

[rye]

well we got severely unders for Jackson remember. it wasn't a haul. it was a robbery. Yeah I understand that you'd give up a top 10 pick and change for Pickett. But Melbourne fans wouldn't. Nor would we give up him for two top 10 picks. It's only if he wants to go, which it seems like he may. I agree that its unfortunate but I can't think of any other teams that would've lost their 2 best young kids in 1 year both for drastic unders? And not getting a single pick in the top 10 for either. surely that's the first time in afl history.

But yeah, im resigned to getting unders because of what happened last year with Jackson. But we'll have 10 years worth of excuses should we hit rock bottom. I'd rather lose Petracca.

brisbane lost docherty and yeo in one off season, both who went on to be AA players for peanuts. polec wasnt a bad player in his time at port either and left in the same trade period

dont think you would have been crying poor when the shoe was on the other foot with lever

suck it up

 

[Schulzenfest]

Melbourne certainly ain't going to bend to your Interstate clubs whims, Georgiades to Eagles for a mid first round pick, on traded to Melbourne for Kozi, everyone goes home happy.

North fans spent weeks and weeks and weeks posting delusional stuff like this and then at the end of the day we kept all the players we wanted to keep and got JHF with the draft picks we already had. And JHF was contracted, so North had more bargaining power than Melbourne would have if Pickett requests a trade here.

The only way Georgiades leaves is if Georgiades asks to leave. He won't be forced out to make a Pickett trade work.

 

[Toump Ass]

I didn't mind Jackson moving to Fremantle, but I must admit I would be a little bit upset if Kozzie goes to a loser club like Port Adelaide.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

well we got severely unders for Jackson remember. it wasn't a haul. it was a robbery. Yeah I understand that you'd give up a top 10 pick and change for Pickett. But Melbourne fans wouldn't. Nor would we give up him for two top 10 picks. It's only if he wants to go, which it seems like he may. I agree that its unfortunate but I can't think of any other teams that would've lost their 2 best young kids in 1 year both for drastic unders? And not getting a single pick in the top 10 for either. surely that's the first time in afl history.

But yeah, im resigned to getting unders because of what happened last year with Jackson. But we'll have 10 years worth of excuses should we hit rock bottom. I'd rather lose Petracca.

Adelaide lost Lever and Cameron in the same off season. One now an AA CHB with a flag and the other the best forward pocket in the game. Not a single top 10 pick for either.

The Jackson trade was not severe unders. It was perfectly reasonable. Melbourne are not hard done by.

 

[RonnieRaven]

Every club loses elite talent
Just last year freo lost pick 8 elite swing man griff Logue.
Rory irreplaceable lobb our leading goalkicker
Blake durable acres elite wingman
All poached by other clubs didn’t get 1 first rd pick.
Many on bf will agree because I’ve read their opinion, it’s going to set us right back!
Happy to trade our future first at seasons end and trav colyer as a sweetener to get Pickett to freo.
He would fit right in!

 

[danster168]

brisbane lost docherty and yeo in one off season, both who went on to be AA players for peanuts. polec wasnt a bad player in his time at port either and left in the same trade period

dont think you would have been crying poor when the shoe was on the other foot with lever

suck it up

Yeo was pick 30. not even close to being a first rounder. let alone a top 3 pick aka Jackson. For Jake Lever, we gave up 2 first round picks including one in the top 10 (pick 10) so comparing that with what we got for Jackson and likely Pickett isn't comparable imo.

 

[danster168]

Every club loses elite talent
Just last year freo lost pick 8 elite swing man griff Logue.
Rory irreplaceable lobb our leading goalkicker
Blake durable acres elite wingman
All poached by other clubs didn’t get 1 first rd pick.
Many on bf will agree because I’ve read their opinion, it’s going to set us right back!
Happy to trade our future first at seasons end and trav colyer as a sweetener to get Pickett to freo.
He would fit right in!

mate, griffin Logue isn't elite.
Future first + a top 15 player is bare minimum.

I think Ed Langdon was the biggest talent that you lost. You haven't lost anyone to the talent of Pickett or Jackson. Let alone both. Lobb is a good player but he's old.

If you guys get Pickett, it'll be on about 750k so not sure how you fit him in the salary cap without losing more players.

 

[RonnieRaven]

mate, griffin Logue isn't elite.
Future first + a top 15 player is bare minimum.

I think Ed Langdon was the biggest talent that you lost. You haven't lost anyone to the talent of Pickett or Jackson. Let alone both. Lobb is a good player but he's old.

If you guys get Pickett, it'll be on about 750k so not sure how you fit him in the salary cap without losing more players.

We lost lachie Neale
How much did Langdon cost you?

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Yeo was pick 30. not even close to being a first rounder. let alone a top 3 pick aka Jackson. For Jake Lever, we gave up 2 first round picks including one in the top 10 (pick 10) so comparing that with what we got for Jackson and likely Pickett isn't comparable imo.

Lol Dan. You got a second and third round pick back with Lever, who was a 21 year old CHB who had just made an AA squad.

I’d argue that Adelaide received unders when considering what Fremantle gave for Jackson who is still largely potential. Very talented but nowhere near an AA team like Lever was at the same age. But that doesn’t fit the poor Melbourne narrative.

 

[philthy05]

Danster is mightily outraged over this whole poaching players thing for someone who watched his club win a gf with plenty of players they traded in.

 

[PAFC_FOREVER]

I didn't mind Jackson moving to Fremantle, but I must admit I would be a little bit upset if Kozzie goes to a loser club like Port Adelaide.

Just for that, I hope he comes, and for peanuts.....

 

[Bald]

As a supporter and member of a team that was on the receiving ends of what was one of the greatest beltings in grand final history, is it possible that Melbourne received a leg up AND turned it around themselves?

At some stage most clubs (specifically the smaller clubs) have received some form of assistance, we can't get too crabby about them taking advantage of it, but it also shouldn't take away from what they've achieved, it's a great part of the history of the competition.

I hope Pickett re-signs, he's exciting, talented and clearly brings supporters through the gates which is the most important part, regardless of who you support.

 

[danster168]

Danster is mightily outraged over this whole poaching players thing for someone who watched his club win a gf with plenty of players they traded in.

Plenty? Of the 22 that played in the GF, we drafted 18 of them. Of the other 4,
we paid up for them. Steven May we paid with pick 6 which would've been Ben King. Lever we paid up for.

I would say the only daylight robbery was Langdon. Ben Brown I wouldn't exactly say has torn the roof off the place. Who else? Hibberd? Not exactly world beaters.

 

[danster168]

Lol Dan. You got a second and third round pick back with Lever, who was a 21 year old CHB who had just made an AA squad.

I’d argue that Adelaide received unders when considering what Fremantle gave for Jackson who is still largely potential. Very talented but nowhere near an AA team like Lever was at the same age. But that doesn’t fit the poor Melbourne narrative.

These late picks don't move the needle. The 2nd rounder was pick 35 which is closer to an early 3rd. And a 3rd rounder is say a pick in the 50's. Melbourne also gave up a 4th rounder. These late picks mean nothing.

I do agree that Lever was (and is) better than Jackson. But we at least paid up with a pick 10 for Lever (and a f1).

 

[philthy05]

Plenty? Of the 22 that played in the GF, we drafted 18 of them. Of the other 4,
we paid up for them. Steven May we paid with pick 6 which would've been Ben King. Lever we paid up for.

I would say the only daylight robbery was Langdon. Ben Brown I wouldn't exactly say has torn the roof off the place. Who else? Hibberd? Not exactly world beaters.

Yeah, so the bloke whinging about a couple of players leaving in trades has had a bunch come to their club through trades.

 

[RonnieRaven]

Plenty? Of the 22 that played in the GF, we drafted 18 of them. Of the other 4,
we paid up for them. Steven May we paid with pick 6 which would've been Ben King. Lever we paid up for.

I would say the only daylight robbery was Langdon. Ben Brown I wouldn't exactly say has torn the roof off the place. Who else? Hibberd? Not exactly world beaters.

Where’d you get pick six from?
Tainted goods you sent freos way

 

[RonnieRaven]

These late picks don't move the needle. The 2nd rounder was pick 35 which is closer to an early 3rd. And a 3rd rounder is say a pick in the 50's. Melbourne also gave up a 4th rounder. These late picks mean nothing.

I do agree that Lever was (and is) better than Jackson. But we at least paid up with a pick 10 for Lever (and a f1).

Brennan cox pick 41 (bnf,AA squad)
Luke Ryan pick 66 (bnf, AA)
Michael Fredrick p61 ( 22U22 squad)
Your views is what happens when you get handouts, like the suns you devalue picks.

 

[danster168]

Yeah, so the bloke whinging about a couple of players leaving in trades has had a bunch come to their club through trades.

did you even read my post. 4 out 22 is not a bunch. Your team has 7 of your 22 from trades. Plus we paid up for ours. Yet potentially will be losing our best 2 youngsters for well unders.

 

[danster168]

Brennan cox pick 41 (bnf,AA squad)
Luke Ryan pick 66 (bnf, AA)
Michael Fredrick p61 ( 22U22 squad)
Your views is what happens when you get handouts, like the suns you devalue picks.

the lists of busts are a lot more than the the hits. You've just cherry picked the ones that worked. probably an 80% chance of a bust in the 3rd or 4th round. 50% of first rounders don't cut it at afl level.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

These late picks don't move the needle. The 2nd rounder was pick 35 which is closer to an early 3rd. And a 3rd rounder is say a pick in the 50's. Melbourne also gave up a 4th rounder. These late picks mean nothing.

I do agree that Lever was (and is) better than Jackson. But we at least paid up with a pick 10 for Lever (and a f1).

Fremantle paid more for Jackson than Melbourne did for Lever. So this doesn’t make sense. You’re all over the place.

 

[danster168]

Fremantle paid more for Jackson than Melbourne did for Lever. So this doesn’t make sense. You’re all over the place.

how so? We gave pick 10 for Lever. We only got like Pick 15 or something for Jackson.

 

[RonnieRaven]

the lists of busts are a lot more than the the hits. You've just cherry picked the ones that worked. probably an 80% chance of a bust in the 3rd or 4th round. 50% of first rounders don't cut it at afl level.

Danster I go for freo from 2001-2015 out of every first pick in the draft we had only 2 players reached 100 games
Byron Schammer and Steven hill.
Besides Pav (pick 4) our club legends are:
Nat Fyfe (pick 20)
David Mundy( pick 19)
Sandilands (pick 33 rookie draft)

From the current team
Walters pick 53 AA
Tabs rookie pick AA squad

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

how so? We gave pick 10 for Lever. We only got like Pick 15 or something for Jackson.

Freo traded an additional 2nd. Melbourne got back a 2nd and 3rd.

The point being, Melbourne aren’t hard done by more than any other club.