News Lions Board Spill - update: Board Dispute Resolved

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FlatWhite1Sugar said:
Reading up on the Anti Spam Act 2003 now.

I own a domain name which I use for my email purposes, and the address that I originally received these unsolicited messages at was only ever used for the Brisbane Lions. All other services and businesses get their own address (facebook@domain, linkedin@domain, rah rah).

I unsubscribed that email address earlier this morning, and then sent a reply asking how my address was obtained. This was sent from my personal email address, and referenced the other one.
I got what appears to be the generic four paragraph reply within half an hour, so I responded with several reasons why that would be incorrect, and asked him/them to explain themselves one more time.

I've not had a response yet. Though what I do find interesting is my personal email address just got sent the latest proxy EGM email. I most certainly didn't sign up for that at all, especially not with the address I sent an email asking about the legitimacy of getting my other email address.

If Henry Pinskier is actually on this forum - I'm still awaiting your reply. If I don't get a response in 24 hours, it's being reported to ACMA.

If that's the case, then they shouldn't be sending reply emails that say:
That would still be incorrect, and dishonest. I also find the inclusion of the info about the Collingwood supporters telling them 'where to shove' their cause, it presents as a poor attempt to gather sympathy.
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I work in marketing, and the law is very clear on spamming. It is actually illegal to send an unsolicited email. Someone needs to report this, especially if they can prove that they didn't ask to be contacted.
 
s364376 said:
I work in marketing, and the law is very clear on spamming. It is actually illegal to send an unsolicited email. Someone needs to report this, especially if they can prove that they didn't ask to be contacted.
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To whom do we report?
 
What are the implications for the club if Angus cheats and gets his way back in?

Will members speak with their feet and withdraw support, leaving the club in a very precarious position and possibly face AFL intervention for survival?

Will everyone just accept what's happened and continue on like nothing happened?

I think that one way or another their is going to be a result on Nov 13 that some people are going to be happy about, and some people aren't. I would hate to see the club suffer if Angus gets back in, Leigh refuses to join the board and say 20% of members refuse to renew their memberships which could cost the club millions. (I for one will not hang around if Angus get's back in, especially if it's with a technicality like Henry forgets to turn up and all of his proxies go to Angus)

Angus has dragged this club through the mud the last 8 weeks, which is bitterly disappointing considering how well we were finishing the season. Further to that, on Angus's watch we have continued to lose money hand over fist, signed up for a training facility in the middle of no where we can't build because someone forgot to check the funding was unconditional from both sides of parliament.

One positive is that jumper sales will go through the roof when the put the Fitzroy lion back on the jumper after the EGM.
 

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Chasing the Dream said:
To whom do we report?
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I can't answer that, I just know that you can't send an email promoting something without prior consent. You can send factual emails, however they have a link to something that promotes something (like a website), then they are in breach of the act.
 
Lionheart182 said:
It was Ryan Lester :p
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MacMum said:
If you mean for me to tweet, I can assure you I'm safer behind the computer!!

Have no clue whatsoever how to do tweets....and anyway, I have an old persons phone..its txts, sets reminders, but thats about it...doesn't even have a camera, let alone anything fancy like you young things have.
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MacMum, you can do the twitter thing from your computer, not just a phone. I use my phone when I'm out and laptop at home. Just google twitter.com :)
 

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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/matthews-sounds-a-warning-on-voting-20131021-2vx6q.html

In an email to members on Monday, Pinskier also called on Victorian members unable to attend the meeting to give him their proxy votes to change the club's guernsey from the Paddle Pop Lion design to the traditional logo.

That would also give Pinskier those members' proxy votes for other resolutions at the meeting.
Concerns have been raised as to how Pinskier gained access to the club's email list.

Although it claims to be non-aligned in the dispute, there is speculation the group is running a spoiling operation to split the challenging vote.

Matthews took to Twitter on Monday to question the legitimacy of the new group, calling for voters at the meeting to ''beware of imposters''.

''In no way does Restore [the] Lions' Pride represent my views, the Fresh Start team gets up or I walk,'' he said.
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At least Leigh is getting some media coverage, as well as the Pinskier situation.
 
FWIW, when I opened the proxy form, my membership number was already contained on the form.

When checking with other family and friends, about half also had their membership number on it and half didn't. I'm absolutely filthy at what other details this muppet has and I've no doubt that he is somehow intrinsically linked with Angus Johnson.

If you read this Henry Pinskier please F off you unethical prick and start actually answering emails and disclosing who you are, what your agenda is and where in the hell you got my and a lot of other people's personal details. God help you if I ever see stumble across your smarmy head you w***er.
 
"Pinskier could not be contacted for comment"

Well there's a surprise. :confused:

Keep the pressure on on all fronts. Back Leigh, give him all the support we can and keep feeding him and his team info, every time Pinskier surfaces make sure Leigh knows.
 
Dylan12 said:
FWIW, when I opened the proxy form, my membership number was already contained on the form.

When checking with other family and friends, about half also had their membership number on it and half didn't. I'm absolutely filthy at what other details this muppet has and I've no doubt that he is somehow intrinsically linked with Angus Johnson.

If you read this Henry Pinskier please F off you unethical prick and start actually answering emails and disclosing who you are, what your agenda is and where in the hell you got my and a lot of other people's personal details. God help you if I ever see stumble across your smarmy head you ******.
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Weird...mine wasn't on the form.
 
More coverage from our currently ?loved Hammo

A HIGH-level leak of confidential information has cast another stain over Brisbane's boardroom battle and raised concerns over the integrity of the EGM process.

The Lions have been asked to explain how Victorian based protester Dr Henry Pinskier got hold of the EGM proxy form in addition to confidential contact details for members.

Pinskier is attempting to run interference against Leigh Matthews and his Fresh Start group by wooing Victorian members who have become the frontline in the battle for control of the club.

Of the 7231 eligible voters — 2185 of them are from Victoria and are likely to vote via a proxy.

In the proxy form, Pinskier states the EGM will be held at the Brisbane Convention and Exhibition Centre on November 13, starting at 6pm.

The start time and venue has yet to be officially released.

The Matthews-Williams-Power ticket contacted Lions CEO Malcolm Holmes demanding an explanation on how Pinskier knew details that should have only been known by Lions directors, the club’s lawyers Ashurst, and the printing firm responsible for producing the voting slips.
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I think it's time for the mods to remove this fool from Bigfooty as well as delete any links to his proxy form to prevent any further confusion.

I urge everybody to report spam email here: http://www.acma.gov.au/Citizen/Stay-protected/My-online-world/Spam/reporting-spam-i-acma

The following penalties could apply he is found in breach of the spam act:

The ACMA can take any of the following actions for breaches of the Act:
  • Issue a formal warning.
  • Accept an enforceable undertaking from a person or company—these undertakings usually contain a formal commitment to comply with specific requirements of the Act. A failure to abide by an undertaking can lead to the ACMA applying for an order in the Federal Court.
  • Issue infringement notices.
  • Seek an injunction from the Federal Court to stop a person sending spam.
  • Prosecute a person in the Federal Court.

    We stood up for the EGM, now it's time to stand up for our privacy.
 

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