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it could just be seen as more papering over the cracks until we fix the losing/mentally weak soft culture, but SPP and Kozzie replacing spuds like Evans, Narkle and McEntee is a huge upgrade. Jesus even Joe Richards is an upgrade, our small forwards have been an issue for a while but it was all amplified with SPP being suspended and then doing his ACL, which basically meant he missed the entire season.

We addressed the issue at the draft last year with Anastasopolous and Charleson but neither of those guys were ready this year but hopefully they step up next year.

We need to find another tall or two to help out Georgiades too, as much as it concerns me getting into a bidding war with Crows over Luko, i feel like he is a much bigger need for us. We basically have to plan next year on the basis that Marshall won't be playing.
 

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Well I think the list clearly has some holes but we arenā€™t alone there.

Geelong, Brisbane, Sydney, Hawthorn, etc - all have holes. We are also quite a young and inexperienced side.

Assuming Houston goes, but no other changes, we still have a backline made of Jones, Evans, Bergmann, Farrell, Sinn - all young and minimal games.

Across the midfield, Butters, Rozee, Mead, Sweet, Burgoyne, Lorenz, Drew - 3 have reached 100 games. Boak likely isnā€™t first 22 and Wines could be surpassed at his age.

Forwards should see Rioli, DBJ, SPP, Georgiades and Finlayson - actually our most experienced line.

You could comfortably move on Dixon, Boak (or rookie or SANFL captain), McKenzie, Clurey, Williams, Soldo, F.Evans, McEntee and Narkle without impacting our depth or core at all. Thatā€™s 9 players. L.Evans needs a spot so thatā€™s 8.

Perryman, Cuming, Richards and Lukoscious makes that 4 spots. Burgoyne and Monty as rookies, Barret as a cat B, 2 spots left. We should also be in Rosas ear.

We need to turn Houston, Soldo, Clurey, Williams (and I would throw in Lord and Boak) into 2 first rounders, Luko and Richards. We have to turn what we have into as many points for Gold Coast, Brisbane and whoever else has F/S and academy picks this year and next. Take the Whitlock boys and Dodson - thatā€™s our spine secured and keeps us competitive next year.
 
When do delistings happen?

I'm expecting it'll be from this group

Scully, K.Marshall

Narkle and Evans out of contract (i think)

D.Will and McEntee contracted rookies

Keeping in mind we have trades and retirees that will save a few of these guys
No way Scully gets delisted

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As of about 2-3 weeks ago, he was flat out told (in simple terms) that they couldn't guarantee he'll be there next year. He personally believes if Hinkley isn't retained he will be gone.
 
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Let Boak do a couple of years at Collingwood under a different coach, then come back.

I don't think he would end up coming back. I can see him taking a part-time development role somewhere in Vic, while playing at least a season at Torquay.

I reckon he'll end up living on the Surf Coast. If I had **** off money, I probably would too.
 
Is Cumming an ex-Crows supporter? I really feel like with those types you have bugger all chance of winning that battle when bring them home. Rankine, Dawson, examples of those ex Crows fans we never had a shot with.

Would love to pickup Perryman and Cumming for our depth, any FA of quality is a boost for a shallow list like ours, but I won't lose sleep when Cumming goes to the Crows. It just would help. We either need to look at some mature aged SANFL/VFL talent to boost our depth IMO or hit some of those FA's.
 

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We need to turn Houston, Soldo, Clurey, Williams (and I would throw in Lord and Boak) into 2 first rounders, Luko and Richards. We have to turn what we have into as many points for Gold Coast, Brisbane and whoever else has F/S and academy picks this year and next. Take the Whitlock boys and Dodson - thatā€™s our spine secured and keeps us competitive next year.
If Houstonā€™s gone as expected, thereā€™s 2 x 1st round picks. You have to expect at least one of those picks would be in the top 10 in this years draft and the other 1st round pick in next years draft.

If Clurey, Soldo, Williams and I would throw in Burton as well. You would be seeing a mixture of 2nd and 3rd round picks which we could offload to GC or Lions for their F/S or Academy selections in exchange for their 1st round picks which sounds great in theory, but Iā€™m not sure if clubs would be willing to pay that much to acquire those players.

As for Luko, I would think that GC would request a future 1st pick for him which I wouldnā€™t do. I would only get him if Port has enough in the cap to absorb his salary in exchange for a future 2nd.

Richards might be a little tricky since Collingwood would demand something like a 2nd round pick.

In regards to the Whitlock and Dodson, all three are 199cm+ which is great for starters.

According to the phantom guide, theyā€™re all ranked between 20-30 as of right now. I would imagine they may go up the order come near draft night. Only question I have for the Whitlock twins is what type of key forward is Jack Whitlock? What type of Key Defender is Matt Whitlock? Are they both agile and move well. Last thing I want is some slow lumbering players refusing to move and create space.
 
So sounds like Perryman is swaying towards Pies and Cumming was initially set on Crows but now is 50/50. If we don't get either, we'll overpay for Lukosius in terms of picks and at the end of the none of it will matter cause Donuts will still be here. Gee whiz I have been completely drained of any optimism.
 
I don't think he would end up coming back. I can see him taking a part-time development role somewhere in Vic, while playing at least a season at Torquay.

I reckon he'll end up living on the Surf Coast. If I had **** off money, I probably would too.
It's a given he will end up back at Torquay, the question is when.
Torquay has just gone back to back in the Bellarine League and is under fierce scrutiny from AFL Barwon after they were done for rorting the draft ' points' system half a dozen years back. He may take on the inaugural coaching role at the Surf Coast Suns when they come into the BFL in 2026, but honestly can't see him playing at any other club in the district, much as I'd love to see him at Queenscliff.
 
Wouldn't be surprised if we end up with none of the players we've been linked with.

It quite honestly wouldn't bother me much.

It's time we started investing in our young players rather than chasing quick fixes.

Aliir and Sweet are two that have done well, but it was mainly young guys who we have had from day one that were our best in finals. JHF is a generational talent who we fluked out on, you won't see that again.

If we have to take a couple of steps back to take a few steps forward, so be it.

Having said that, I expect we will bring at least a couple of players in, but not at the price of the farm.
 
Geelong are a big team & so were west coast. I recall watching WCE taking the field years ago vs us & I said to my brother they are taller & a lot stronger in every position on the field & the only guys below 185cm & 90kgs were guns like Rioli.

But I said we are faster & have a lot more run so should be able to run over them later in the game if we can stay in touch early. But in a finals big bodies normally win & Adelaide oval was a lot easier to defend

Also noticed how big bodied degoey dominated last years final series. My cousin was a gun teal cup player years ago & trained at ports for a while (was drafted by Sydney but chucked it in) & I said you will get buffed with all the weights training?

He said they wouldnā€™t let him near the weights until he first built his tank to afl level so he just did lots of aerobic training when he was already an elite runner, with a huge tank, which I found odd.

Then you watch sa teal cup side vs vic metro & the vic kids were absolute monsters. My cousin pointed out all the vic kids who had mysteriously grown 12 inches and put on 20kgs in a season & the rumour was they were all on human growth hormones. His mum got rather angry & said my son played on that kid last season & he was 5ā€™7ā€ & 65kg, a season later and he is 6ā€™6ā€ & 90kgs.

A number of very famous vic father sons too. He was offered the juice by a Victorian doctor but declined.

Also knew Greg Anderson years ago & had a go at him for getting so huge, like he fell in love with doing weights ( eg Williams this season) and lost some zip
He said the extra weight was a handicap in the regular home and away season but worth its weight in gold in finals
Ando lost zip because he had groin issues and had several operations and on both groins. Thats when he started putting on size. He couldnt run as fast as he did pre injuries so he put on size to compete in the packs and 1 on 1 contests.
 
Wouldn't be surprised if we end up with none of the players we've been linked with.
I'd be a bit disappointed if we didn't land Richards just because he fills a big need - if he isn't a star.

Couldn't really care less about Cumming, he's not a need. Perryman is a good player, but wouldn't lose sleep over not getting him. Luko I'd only be a bit bummed about not landing if Marshall retires. So yeah, not so fussed about the player we have been linked with so far.

We desperately need a tall forward who is remotely capable of taking a contested mark, and I'd also like to see us pursue some KPD depth, even a Lewis Young just as someone you could have confidence of doing at least an ok job if AA or BZT go down with injury.
 

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