List Mgmt. List Management 2024-25

[all seeing eye]

Jackson strikes me as a poor man's Mead, and Mead sucks. No loss if we delist him.

Disagree strongly, kid has x factor, unfortunately injury ridden. Would of loved to see him get a chance.

 

[longdonkey]

Regardless, what are we getting for taking boak from 370 to 390 games ? What’s the payoff? Warm fuzzy feelings?


We’ve got a limited ability to bring in young talent over the next 2 years after 3 or so years of bringing in a very limited amount of young talent.

Having Ratkins on the list and pumping an extra 20 games into boak and cutting 2 juniors / taking few picks into a supposedly deep draft we were so suddenly desperate to get into …

does that sound like a logical decision?

I'd love to hear his reasoning for going on. I still think he's in our best 25 but you'd think he might have the self-awareness to move into coaching. Because from the outside it looks like he's putting himself ahead of the team.

I don't think its great for culture but he's probably encouraged to play on by Stinkers.

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

I'm going to put you on ignore now because 1) I understand a helluva lot more about the intricacies of the situation than you, and 2) I'm sick of you arguing about the same bloody viewpoints just from a tiny different angle.

We are oil and water on this and that is perfectly ok. Go and argue with someone who actually gives a shit.

 

[philthy05]

Also people are watching boak with rose coloured glasses. Peak boak was great.

Boak of last year really has no to minimal difference to guys like narkle.

He basically cleared the “you must be this good to get a game for a team with questionable depth helped by the fact Hinkley won’t drop him to debut youth” bar by a whisker last year.

If Boak had been taken on as a dfa last year, there isn’t a single , single person in their right mind who would advocate to keep him on the list.



Eh, so he’s going around again. There’s worse things happening I guess. But gee, I’m not sure how anyone thinks it’s really a sound decision.

As I’ve said already, what is to be gained by taking boak from 370 to 390 games next year?


Forget even about the list spot we can’t use in a draft we’re supposedly keen on and don’t have enough list spots to take anything remotely close to our draft picks and f/s and ngas available…

Who in their right mind with all evidence at hand trusts Hinkley to be impartial and select boak on merit? How did that work with Dixon and lycett?

There’s a fair risk Lorenz gets overlooked for games next year, and the development we could be getting into him cause we’re giving boak a year long farewell tour.

 

[JUSTWORK]

Houston’s self-sabotaging defence of that incident was probably a sign he had mentally checked out already.

It wouldn't have been Houstons defence, the club and its lawyer would have been entirely responsible.

 

[all seeing eye]

I'd love to hear his reasoning for going on. I still think he's in out best 25 but you'd think he might have the self-awareness to move into coaching. Because from the outside it looks like he's putting himself ahead of the team.

I don't think its great for culture but he's probably encouraged to play on by Stinkers.

Are we saying the same for Pendlebury, or Sidebottom etc. He has earned the right to call his time.

 

[philthy05]

One year of Ratkins = pick 29. Its actually very simple to understand why that is helpful. Also, Ratkins is taking Narkle spot, not a young player.

The payoff is also pretty simple with Boak. We have like three wings on our list, and one of them is 19. He will play games next year.

What?

You have no evidence that we got pick 29 to take ratkins on, and even if true, that just makes an insanely pissweak trade even worse.

Ratkins isn’t taking narkles spot. Narkkes was getting delisted anyway. He was never offered a contract and he never would have been.

It’s one less draft pick we can take or the delisting of a junior we might of held onto.

im also unsure why our fan base is so scared of having to play developing players and where this idea comes from that teams around the league manage to birth 22-30 afl ready players into existence and not, you know, just give games to developing players…




Besides, if we gave less games to boak last year (or any other soon to be finished player ahem mcintee) and more to developing players we would have achieved the exact amount of success as we did anyway. Which is zero.

 

[RangaInTeal]

Jackson strikes me as a poor man's Mead, and Mead sucks. No loss if we delist him.

Yeah, nahhhh…

His movement through traffic is Elite!

 

[JakeNeadeFan]

What?

You have no evidence that we got pick 29 to take ratkins on, and even if true, that just makes an insanely pissweak trade even worse.

Ratkins isn’t taking narkles spot. Narkkes was getting delisted anyway. He was never offered a contract and he never would have been.

It’s one less draft pick we can take or the delisting of a junior we might of held onto.

im also unsure why our fan base is so scared of having to play developing players and where this idea comes from that teams around the league manage to birth 22-30 afl ready players into existence and not, you know, just give games to developing players…




Besides, if we gave less games to boak last year (or any other soon to be finished player ahem mcintee) and more to developing players we would have achieved the exact amount of success as we did anyway. Which is zero.

Just about everyone who has any information on this trade has said taking on Ratkins salary netted us 29.

Do you really think we got him for his footballing ability? Christ

 

[longdonkey]

Are we saying the same for Pendlebury, or Sidebottom etc. He has earned the right to call his time.

I agree with that too - I wouldn't be keen on delisting him though.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

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Buttkiss means nothing, you Millennial Gen Zer.

 

[Waspy79]

It wouldn't have been Houstons defence, the club and its lawyer would have been entirely responsible.

He gave his own testimony and it was embarrassing. I agree though that the obvious lack of coaching from club lawyer as to what Houston should have said is yet another stain on the place.

 

[Coobk001]

Disagree strongly, kid has x factor, unfortunately injury ridden. Would of loved to see him get a chance.

Jackson can't kick. He won't make it. I would delist and move to rookie spot. If he was uncontracted I would delist.

 

[Brian McGee]

Just about everyone who has any information on this trade has said taking on Ratkins salary netted us 29.

Do you really think we got him for his footballing ability? Christ

I thought that the story was the salary dump got our two later picks upgraded. 58 to 50 and 39 to 36.

 

[Scodges]

Our young players would look a lot better if they were allowed in the gym.

Yeah 100% agree.


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[all seeing eye]

Jackson can't kick. He won't make it. I would delist and move to rookie spot. If he was uncontracted I would delist.

I must be watching wrong sanfl games, his left foot is pretty good.

 

[Scodges]

Yeah, nahhhh…

His movement through traffic is Elite!

I’d persist with Jackson, see what an injury free season looks like. Recon he’ll surprise a few.


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[dirty2]

Jackson showed alot of promise the year he got a solid run with no injuries.. was that last year... Or year before.

Think the kid has talent... But always bloody injured.

 

[Watto71]

Narkle Evans McEntee Boak should all be out the door for 25 however 2 will remain.
Finlayson has another season I believe due to real life circumstances.
This would of given us 5 spots on our list if our club had balls

 

[Duck Farmer]

It wouldn't have been Houstons defence, the club and its lawyer would have been entirely responsible.

Collingwood can probably afford a lawyer who doesn't do his case prep at the Bunnings paint department.

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

Buttkiss means nothing, you Millennial Gen Zer.

I think you mean bupkis or bubkes.

 

[agmsy]

I'd love to hear his reasoning for going on.

I imagine it's pretty simple: he still wants to play.

There are plenty of jobs he could walk into next year, if he wanted to. Those jobs will all still be there in 2026 and beyond.

On the other hand, tautologically, his last year as a professional footballer in the AFL will be his last year as a professional footballer in the AFL. The job's there for 2025. Playing in 2025 means there's some (slim?) chance he can play in 2026, but that'll be it. If he retired tomorrow, that'd be it, too.

The guy who's always said he wants to play AFL for as long as he can is doing exactly that.

 

[n4nirvana]

Would love to see Josh Sinn have an uninterrupted, no injury pre-season and season.

 

[Addy23]

We don't have any list positions left for someone like DGB.

Fascinating to see what happens with our delistings. Looks like we'll only take 4 picks to the draft, and that's if we basically delist everyone who is uncontracted.

Given it is supposed to be a great draft, we have no first next year and next year is supposed to be crap, it seems crazy to be thinking we will delist so many players next year.

Gotta think there might be some surprise delistings beyond Scully, K Marshall, Evans and Narkle.

Let's put it this way, there's more draftees I'd have from the 2024 crop than some of the players on our list

McKenzie, Dixon, Houston, McCallum replaced by Richards, Luko, Atkins and SPP (back on the active list)

So if we were to take 4 draftees (assuming not inclusive of Barrett and Rome), I think the delistings will be Scully, FEvans and Kyle Marshall from the senior list. This opens up 3 spots. I suspect that Clurey gets delisted to be re-rookied. So that's 4 senior spots opened for the 4 picks.

Let's assume Barrett goes in the ND and Burgoyne goes in rookie draft. We need another senior spot and a rookie spot. I think we'll delist Jackson and re-rookied him as well to open up the 5th spot for Barrett. To accommodate these 2 re-rookies as well as Burgoyne, I assume we delist Narkle, McEntee and Williams

Best scenario is Barrett gets to rookie draft in which cause we can keep him as Cat B and save 1 of the re-rookies. And if Burgoyne gets to rookie as well then we need to cut only 2 rookies, which I hope is Narkle and Jed

 

[rignanv]

I wonder if there's a chance Marshall retirees between now and the draft