Losers of the "riches to rags" style

[Upgrayedd]

Tom Scully's on the right path

Take the money and play for a shit club when you know your careers limited or play for less money for a shit club and have a limited career

Can't blame him

 

[coniglio_number1]

I recall reading an article in the paper a few years ago about Jeff farmer being arrested for stealing a car

 

[bradrowe#32]

I guess you can believe them or not. On all available evidence, Buckley turned down the offer from North as he believed the Pies were a better chance of playing finals.

You're talking shit.

"The quote I'm reminded of so often revolved around my desire, as a Collingwood player, to 'help the club play in finals.' I made this comment in one of my first interviews as a Magpies, in the players' race the week before my first game at the club, and it has since been used against me. Show me a player that doesn't want to play in finals and I'll show you a player who won't be around for long. I was simply stating what should be the goal of every player in the game. What's wrong with that?"
- Nathan Buckley All I Can Be

Show us where Buckley said that he chose Collingwood over North or any other club because he "believed the Pies were a better chance of playing finals."

 

[Donakebab]

Here i was thinking that Fevola would have at least made the first 20 posts....

More appropriate for a rags to rags thread.

 

[Topkent]

Liam kicked 90 odd goals in 30 games with just 2 pre seasons and really no idea how to play in a structure
The kid kicked goals on the ground, over his head and also won mark of the year
Was one of the most naturally talented kids you would ever see
Is not even 25 now and is completely gone

 

[joop]

Tom Scully's on the right path

I'd say that's actually the complete opposite to what this threads about.
Getting paid millions, got his old man a good job too. GWS will overtake melbourne this year and most likely stay there for majority of scullys career.

 

[Topkent]

I'd say that's actually the complete opposite to what this threads about.
Getting paid millions, got his old man a good job too. GWS will overtake melbourne this year and most likely stay there for majority of scullys career.

Because he went from being a number 1 pick to being a tagged in a team full of kids

 

[Sttew]

I dont mind Bucks - but Geelong were certain they had him

They were high on the ladder - Malcolm Blight was coach - and he had played football with Buckleys father Ray at Woodville - they were former team mates !

So Buckley went down to Geelong - had a game of the golf with Blight - Hocking - and the Geelong president

Then Buckley came out and signed with Collingwood - and what Bucks actually said was - " I was allways going to join a big Melbourne Club " - what a backhander for Geelong

Glen Archer - when he had that column in the Sunday Age told an interesting story - he said - he and Wayne Carey were having a drink at a City hotel - and they bumped into Buckley - and they asked Bucks that very question - did he have any regrets not joining North - they said Buckley instantly replied - well if i had of - you probably would would have won 2 more premierships - Carey and Archer couldnt believe what they just heard

True to his nickname Figjam

 

[Sttew]

Tom Scully's on the right path

Except he isn't a loser $$ wise

 

[joop]

Because he went from being a number 1 pick to being a tagged in a team full of kids

Hmm, yeh he's still a number 1 pick mate.

 

[Topkent]

Hmm, yeh he's still a number 1 pick mate.

Yeah so he went from being the best 18yr old in the country to being a very average player in a team of kids younger than him

 

[Sttew]

The Melbourne Football Club post 1960.

Actually, Demons won the GF in 1964

 

[iBeng]

Des Headland should have been mentioned by now.

 

[youngbear]

Except he isn't a loser $$ wise

If money's the point then your examples don't count. Colbert was well paid at North and Pagan got a fortune at Carlton because they thought he'd pull them up from the floor post draft sanctions.

and I didn't say he's there, he's on the way. Being paid millions is irrelevant; he was the next Judd apparently and now he's an average tagger who can run all day. If he stays at GWS post this contract he'll be getting a quarter of what he's on now.

 

[Sttew]

If money's the point then your examples don't count. Colbert was well paid at North and Pagan got a fortune at Carlton because they thought he'd pull them up from the floor post draft sanctions.

and I didn't say he's there, he's on the way. Being paid millions is irrelevant; he was the next Judd apparently and now he's an average tagger who can run all day. If he stays at GWS post this contract he'll be getting a quarter of what he's on now.

You're right!

 

[joop]

If money's the point then your examples don't count. Colbert was well paid at North and Pagan got a fortune at Carlton because they thought he'd pull them up from the floor post draft sanctions.

and I didn't say he's there, he's on the way. Being paid millions is irrelevant; he was the next Judd apparently and now he's an average tagger who can run all day. If he stays at GWS post this contract he'll be getting a quarter of what he's on now.

He'll also be playing in a far stronger team than his original club. That's not really going from riches to rags.

 

[joop]

Yeah so he went from being the best 18yr old in the country to being a very average player in a team of kids younger than him

And how is that different to what he'd be if he stayed at melbourne? Except GWS have already finished higher and have a far superior list.

 

[MaddAdam]

The story of Sean Dundee got me thinking who are the biggest AFL losers.

South African born Dundee became a running joke in soccer circles. In the mid 90's he had such a good goal scoring reputation and was so highly-rated that the Germans put pressure on him to relinquish his South African nationality and become a German citizen so he could play for their national team. Once he did become a German citizen, however, he never played for the Germans.

There are countless rags to riches stories in the VFL / AFL. But has the VFL / AFL had any "losers" like a Sean Dundee?

Leigh Colbert sort of comes to mind. He gave up the Geelong captaincy and left the club for North Melbourne claiming he had a better chance of playing in a premiership team at North than at Geelong. The Kangaroos did not win a premiership with Colbert and Geelong went on to win its first in 44 years in 2007. Admittedly Colbert had retired by then but he was only 30. Its not quite a Sean Dundee story.

Denis Pagan comes to mind too. The dual premiership coach of North Melbourne was lured across to Carlton
in 2003, only to endure five disastrous seasons where he was forced to "do the donkey work" of rebuilding a playing list ravaged by salary-cap sanctions.

Liam Pickering, Brad Sholl, Tim McGrath and Leigh Tudor all come to mind.

They all left North just before the dual premiership North 90s to go and play for a Geelong side that squandered multiple premiership chances.

 

[Sttew]

Liam Pickering, Brad Sholl, Tim McGrath and Leigh Tudor all come to mind.

They all left North just before the dual premiership North 90s to go and play for a Geelong side that squandered multiple premiership chances.

Touche! Close but no cigar. No guarantee any of the above named would have played in a North premiership team. In fact deprived opportunity was why most chose to leave. Sholl only managed 2 games with North in 2 seasons.

What is the preferred option - playing VFL /AFL games, including finals but not winning a premiership, or languishing in the reserves and going nowhere? That's the story for many aspiring AFL footballers.

 

[Topkent]

And how is that different to what he'd be if he stayed at melbourne? Except GWS have already finished higher and have a far superior list.

You seem to want to have a go at Melbourne for no reason, I'm saying he signed a multi million dollar contract and he might be out of GWS best 22 by the time he signs his next deal

 

[MaddAdam]

Touche! Close but no cigar. No guarantee any of the above named would have played in a North premiership team. In fact deprived opportunity was why most chose to leave. Sholl only managed 2 games with North in 2 seasons.

What is the preferred option - playing VFL /AFL games, including finals but not winning a premiership, or languishing in the reserves and going nowhere? That's the story for many aspiring AFL footballers.

I'm sure Robert Scott and Cam Mooney would have the same answer.

 

[Sttew]

I'm sure Robert Scott and Cam Mooney would have the same answer.

What answer is that?

 

[MaddAdam]

What answer is that?

Premierships.

 

[Kram]

and Adam Hunter working (not owning, working) at a Mitre 10 are some serious ******* falls from grace.

You know where? I need some pop rivets and could do with a laugh at the same time.

 

[Silent Alarm]

You know where? I need some pop rivets and could do with a laugh at the same time.

Someone on the Freo forum saw it I think, maybe like Belmont or somewhere bizarre?