Speculation Luke Davies-Uniacke [RFA 2025]

[THE_GUN]

The player doesn't get to decide that.

And there is no such thing as player walking, that won't be happening in afl anytime soon

Luke Ball already happened

LDU will stay at North and North will pay him $1.5 mil

 

[DopeMaster]

You need cap to trade for players like LDU mate, collingwood doesn't have the cap, none of the top 6 clubs have.

We got all the leverage.

We apparently do have significant cap space right now. By FA next year we’ll likely see 2-3 of Pendles/Sidey/Howe retire as well.

 

[d-mac3276]

If he is to move...

There are problem only 5 clubs that can afford him.

He is not moving interstate, so that's down to 9 clubs.

If he wants to go to a team in the window, syd is interstate and don't have the cap.

Essendon, Carlton, Collingwood in the top 6 but none of them has the cap.

He's not going to melb, geelong as they are midtable for the foreseeable future.

Saints and hawthorn are the most likely because they got the cap and desperate enough to want such a huge name, particularly saints as they gave 2 x firsts for hannebury...

At then end of the day, we will make a killing if he is to leave and prob will use his captial to get a genuine chf.

Essendon have more than enough cap space...been front ending the big deals and with the expanded total player payments under the new collective bargaining agreement next year puts them in a good spot

 

[sexyhunk]

I think we would match regardless because by match we can get more than one top picks plus facilitate another trading of a player. E.g. with saints, we match, they give us their first plus future first, i.e. 2 x top 5 picks. Then we may request Josh battle to come as a free agent.

this is guy have no clue how any of this works, he just pollutes every thread with nonsense.

 

[ChairmanZia]

Essendon have more than enough cap space...been front ending the big deals and with the expanded total player payments under the new collective bargaining agreement next year puts them in a good spot

Errr so do we mate, we can match anyone's offer to force a trade and when that happens in 2025, your team might not be in a top 4 or top 8 position due to much harder draw, just saying...

Also, you don't have nearly as much cap when your club is offering 18 million over 10 years for a first year player.

Throwing darts with made up numbers won't get you any players. Typical brad scott move.

In any case, LDU is not going interstate and not going to any team that can't genuinely compete for flag.

 

[Taylor]

Any club is capable of matching a free agent bid, they only need to be able to equal the total guaranteed dollars and the length of years. With the entire salary cap open for most clubs 6+ years out then they can plonk heaps of the money there and meet the qualification, matched - onto a trade they go.

 

[ChairmanZia]

Any club is capable of matching a free agent bid, they only need to be able to equal the total guaranteed dollars and the length of years. With the entire salary cap open for most clubs 6+ years out then they can plonk heaps of the money there and meet the qualification, matched - onto a trade they go.

Apparently someone here said LDU could reject the club matching and just walk...

 

[Taylor]

Apparently someone here said LDU could reject the club matching and just walk...

He can do that.

But only to the draft. If no club lodges the form 41 (I think it is) then he can walk via the PSD to the lowest ranked team if that's the one that wants him.

 

[ChairmanZia]

He can do that.

But only to the draft. If no club lodges the form 41 (I think it is) then he can walk via the PSD to the lowest ranked team if that's the one that wants him.

Hmmm, and that could me...us again

But in any case, from memory only 2 ever did that, one was nick something from port to carlton back in 2002 and another was something martin to carlton in 2021???

 

[Taylor]

Hmmm, and that could me...us again

But in any case, from memory only 2 ever did that, one was nick something from port to carlton back in 2002 and another was something martin to carlton in 2021???

It should be noted that there hasn't been a player taken in the PSD who didn't agree to terms with the club that took him prior for well over a decade.

Even John McCarthy agreed to terms with Port before they "poached" him that way. One of the saddest things about his death was how the city just didn't seem to even notice it. I stood right at the spot for a good five minutes and it was like the mess of the town swept over.

Anyway, it should also be noted that the only restricted free agent matching so far has been from a club that had already lost a free agent for almost a million a year (clearing lots of space) and the next free agent was going to a club with a lot of picks to trade.

North won't match a thing if the club offering the contract has nothing better to offer in trade, as almost all cases have been so far.

 

[ChairmanZia]

It should be noted that there hasn't been a player taken in the PSD who didn't agree to terms with the club that took him prior for well over a decade.

Even John McCarthy agreed to terms with Port before they "poached" him that way. One of the saddest things about his death was how the city just didn't seem to even notice it. I stood right at the spot for a good five minutes and it was like the mess of the town swept over.

Anyway, it should also be noted that the only restricted free agent matching so far has been from a club that had already lost a free agent for almost a million a year (clearing lots of space) and the next free agent was going to a club with a lot of picks to trade.

North won't match a thing if the club offering the contract has nothing better to offer in trade, as almost all cases have been so far.

Guess what, there is something called salary cap, to get him out of north just in financial terms would require 6 x 1.5 mil at the very minimum. Two, he aint going interstate so that's 8 teams gone from the total. Next he ain't going to teams that won't be taking the next step and that means none of the teams between 5 and 17, that probably would also extend into a few into the top 4.

As you said, north won match...we don't have to as there are many non financial boxes that the successful team need to tick. You are thinking about $ and draft, i am talking about team structure, onfield synergy, player cohesiveness.

Players like LDU are not going to beat around the bushes at a new club only to stagnate, he is going to a team that is built around him to achieve success. This pretty much elimniates the possible teams down to single digits in the lower end, those that can fiit his criteria won't have the cap.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

Guess what, there is something called salary cap, to get him out of north just in financial terms would require 6 x 1.5 mil at the very minimum. Two, he aint going interstate so that's 8 teams gone from the total. Next he ain't going to teams that won't be taking the next step and that means none of the teams between 5 and 17, that probably would also extend into a few into the top 4.

As you said, north won match...we don't have to as there are many non financial boxes that the successful team need to tick. You are thinking about $ and draft, i am talking about team structure, onfield synergy, player cohesiveness.

Players like LDU are not going to beat around the bushes at a new club only to stagnate, he is going to a team that is built around him to achieve success. This pretty much elimniates the possible teams down to single digits in the lower end, those that can fiit his criteria won't have the cap.

With the increase in cap. Most teams have the cap to pay him big money. The cap goes up a lot in 2025 and 2026.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Bit. Sad to grasp on to a player if they are unhappy to be there.

 

[Wild Bill]

Bit. Sad to grasp on to a player if they are unhappy to be there.

Like the swans did with Ryan O’Keefe and Papley?

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Like the swans did with Ryan O’Keefe and Papley?

Ask those two and both are happy they stayed.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

It is expected more nmfc players will go downthe McKay route.

 

[Wild Bill]

Ask those two and both are happy they stayed.

But the Swans were sad to grasp onto players that wanted out? Or does that logic only apply to other teams?

 

[Wild Bill]

It is expected more nmfc players will go downthe McKay route.

It is expected more swans players will go down the Dawson route.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

It is expected more swans players will go down the Dawson route.

Possibly. Given his business interests in Sydney, Parker would need a massive deal $2.0m pa to move. Expect the afl would need to support and maybe subsidise the move.

Otherwise nmfc looks like it will struggle to attract talent and retain what it has.

 

[Wild Bill]

Possibly. Given his business interests in Sydney, Parker would need a massive deal $2.0m pa to move. Expect the afl would need to support and maybe subsidise the move.

Otherwise nmfc looks like it will struggle to attract talent and retain what it has.

Lol what? Parker to get an offer of 2 million a year!!

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Lol what? Parker to get an offer of 2 million a year!!

Not saying it will happen but $2.0m would compensate if not LP would not think about it.

Getting a quality person and player to think about turning nmfc is no easy task.

Imagine what it would cost to get The Bont there. $2.5m+ at least. Rather than further distort the draft by giving nmfc pp’s wouldn’t it be better for the AFL to go halves in the contract price

 

[Joao]

$2m for Parker is a bargain. North would be stupid not to do it.

 

[ChairmanZia]

With the increase in cap. Most teams have the cap to pay him big money. The cap goes up a lot in 2025 and 2026.

Errrr each player's pay also goes up...

 

[Taylor]

Errrr each player's pay also goes up...

Only if they have it in their contract to increase their pay with the cap. There are many players who do not.

Also consider that the amount of players contracted beyond two years is quite small.

 

[ChairmanZia]

Only if they have it in their contract to increase their pay with the cap. There are many players who do not.

Also consider that the amount of players contracted beyond two years is quite small.

Mate, with the inflation, all of them will.

I understand on this forum, people are going to trivilise player x going there, plenty of cap, this and that.

To get a player of this calibre moving team, that team needs to tick quite a few boxes.

Money and opportunities are not issues.